King of Worms : V

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:20 pm

Skyrim takes place two centuries after Oblivion, but of course that means little for Mannimarco -- The King of Worms and eternal badass. Well, at least he was in Daggerfall. He was, shall we say, flimsy in Oblivion (vanilla anyway). I laughed my ass off when I faced him at the end of the Mage Guild quest line. I expected so much more.

So my two part question is: a) Will he return in Skyrim? and, B) Will he be represented as someone of his stature should be -- which is to say, will he be much more foreboding and menacing this time around?

Thoughts.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:52 am

We killed him.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:04 am

We killed him.

That wasn't him. That was some wimpy High Elf who adopted the name Mannimarco to intimidate.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:50 am

Sadly, I would say he is swimming at Sithis' feet so to speak.

So baring some sort of resurrection by another necromancer, I'd say the less badass one from Oblivion is it for the king of worms.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:34 pm

That wasn't him. That was some wimpy High Elf who adopted the name Mannimarco to intimidate.

What was he supposed to live up to? Ten pixels without a voice?

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:35 am

I was under the impression he was, you know, eternal.

He is a lich after all. The first lich.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:47 pm

It wouldn't surprise me to see him again, they seem to have made lesser necromancers more robust this go round, so why not? We probly won't know for sure til the game is out though

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:13 am

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/yj/wf/lr/mannimarco.jpg

One can only hope, but odds are Beth decided that Oblivion was the end of him. The demotion being more humiliating then the actual end.

-DL :chaos:

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:09 pm

What was he supposed to live up to? Ten pixels without a voice?

He's been studying magic since the beginning of the second era, giving him over 1,000 years of experience. He was the first humanoid to transform into a lich. I think my level 5 Oblivion character killed "him" in like ten hits.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:33 pm

He's been studying magic since the beginning of the second era, giving him over 1,000 years of experience. He was the first humanoid to transform into a lich. I think my level 5 Oblivion character killed "him" in like ten hits.

This.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:02 pm

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/yj/wf/lr/mannimarco.jpg

One can only hope, but odds are Beth decided that Oblivion was the end of him. The demotion being more humiliating then the actual end.

-DL :chaos:

TRUTH

that lame ass guy in OB could NOT be the king of worms

the king of worms is suppose to scare the crap out of you by a mere look !!

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:10 am

That wasn't him. That was some wimpy High Elf who adopted the name Mannimarco to intimidate.

hopefully we get a GOOD mannimarco this time around, unless hes still in cyrodiil

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:46 am

hopefully we get a GOOD mannimarco this time around, unless hes still in cyrodiil

oh I think he will try to make an undead dragon MUAHAHAHHAHAHAH

so yah he is in Skyrim

and besides!!!

how can you kill the KING OF DEATH AND NECROMANCY

shouldn't he be like immune to death as we know it ??!!!

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:39 am

That wasn't him. That was some wimpy High Elf who adopted the name Mannimarco to intimidate.

No, the imposter was a woman. She wasn't in the game/

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:13 am

They could go the old Castlevania route and have the necromancer's gather to summon the KoW back into existence. Could work, actually.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:24 pm

Oblivion killed the Mannimarco hype for me. I don't think I will be able to see him as a formidable necromantic magister. so, perhaps he is better off dead and gone from the series. Let some knew horror take up the mantle as the most evil and sinister necromancer.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:52 am

I still refuse to believe that pointy eared imposter is the King of Worms.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:15 pm

They could go the old Castlevania route and have the necromancer's gather to summon the KoW back into existence. Could work, actually.

actually he would make the coolest mini boss ever

if he got raised back as a super vampire OR a lich with epic powers

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:07 pm

If Beth really decides that that... thing in Oblivion was the King of Worms, I will be so dissapoint I will implode.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:21 am

Oblivion killed the Mannimarco hype for me. I don't think I will be able to see him as a formidable necromantic magister.

Bet if you walked into his new lair and got one-shotted by him, you'd suddenly change your opinion.

hehe

I agree with some of the other posts as well. I think that fairy was an impostor, or just a goon pretending to be his boss while he was away.

Mannimarco says to his goon: "Hey! Watch over the place while I'm gone. I going out for White Castle. And don't let the CoC kill you or people will think I'm a wuss."

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:45 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mannimarco

Let's say anyone who wants to command the necromancers forces will be called "Mannimarco".

So there is a good chance that another Mannimarco will appear.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:04 am

Also, to back up the claims many of us share about Manimarco is the UESP http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mannimarco itself. Read at least the last bullet-point in Backstory, the final 2 paragraphs of the article, and look at the bottom image. Doesn't 100% prove anything, except that he is full of surprises and in some way or another has cheated death before. I'll concede that perhaps an overstatement of his actual power could be among these many surprises, but the evidence is still very compelling in the opposite direction.

Edit: Lol, I've been ninja'd?

-DL :chaos:

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:40 pm

No one mentioned the Warp in the West and the Mannimarco (god version)...........

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:35 am

Mannimarco was killed in Oblivion. Maybe a bad design decision? maybe, but it's a fact. he's dead, finished, finnito.

» Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:42 pm

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/yj/wf/lr/mannimarco.jpg

One can only hope, but odds are Beth decided that Oblivion was the end of him. The demotion being more humiliating then the actual end.

-DL :chaos:

hahaha thats awesome.
but ya agreed. Oblivio Mannimarco was very underwhelming. I want it to go back to the days when he was an awesome super-lich (who wasnt just a randomly hostile undead creature waiting for someone to stumble across them in a random ruin losing all coolness of lich lore (though technically you still couldn't fight him)) that was surrounded by lich/vampire ancients who could kill OB mannimarco in a heartbeat.