no knife kills? really? ugh.

Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:36 pm

From the gameplay videos ive seen it looks to me like the knife fits in perfectly as it is. Brink isnt a one hit kill game and I dont think throwing a ohk on the knife would fit at all with the gameplay. As I said from the gameplay videos I thought the damage the knife did looked perfect.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:10 am

The community has spoken on the poll board. No OHK in this game. I don't know why anyone bothers to cite other games. Maybe you kids are too young to remember but the FPS is ever evolving from the lofty days of Blood, Doom and Wolfenstein to the glory days of Halo, CoD, BF to the future of Brink and others to come. The ONLY standard the FPS genre will ever have is First Person Shooting. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:49 pm

The community has spoken on the poll board. No OHK in this game. I don't know why anyone bothers to cite other games. Maybe you kids are too young to remember but the FPS is ever evolving from the lofty days of Blood, Doom and Wolfenstein to the glory days of Halo, CoD, BF to the future of Brink and others to come. The ONLY standard the FPS genre will ever have is First Person Shooting. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.


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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:19 am

No OHK anythings please.

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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:45 pm

You know whats even harder and takes more skill than killing someone with a knife with one hit? killing someone with a knife that takes multiple hits. In ETQW the knife/spike kill and the defib/stroyent tool kills where the most embarrasing ways to die and the most humilating way to kill your opponent. This is an SD game not Call of duty where everyone runs around knifing each other, thank god SD decided against including it.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:06 am

im sure ill get some flack for posting this comment but i think it's absolute crap that the knife is not a one hit weapon. why do i say this? because it's not easy. you completely compromise your position to do this because it requires you to get so close to the other player. i dare say it's probably the most difficult way to kill another player and it can be REALLY frustrating especially when your caught in the act.

this is why it should be a one hit kill .... the kill is the reward for taking such a risk. it's that simple.

go back to CoD
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:22 pm

You know whats even harder and takes more skill than killing someone with a knife with one hit? killing someone with a knife that takes multiple hits. In ETQW the knife/spike kill and the defib/stroyent tool kills where the most embarrasing ways to die and the most humilating way to kill your opponent. This is an SD game not Call of duty where everyone runs around knifing each other, thank god SD decided against including it.


Agree!!
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:09 pm

OHK may be satisfying to the user, but it's wildly frustrating to the rest of us.

Not for me. I commend any player that could run up on me and slip a knife in. At the very least, one knife swipe should be a knockdown -- or a random one-hit knockdown to reflect the random nature of knife fights.

In Black Ops, I loved nothing more than to bob, weave and bunnyhop around a hail of Famas or AK74u-launched artillery and stab someone in the face. When it boils right down to it, it's all about skill and if you have little to none, I say bone up. :)

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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:08 pm

Well.. From a video I saw it seems like the knife would atleast be a 2-hit down or a 3-hit down, it took almost half of the HP of a Medium(?) damnit

You knife users will get a bone, don't worry :P
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:36 pm

The community has spoken on the poll board. No OHK in this game. I don't know why anyone bothers to cite other games. Maybe you kids are too young to remember but the FPS is ever evolving from the lofty days of Blood, Doom and Wolfenstein to the glory days of Halo, CoD, BF to the future of Brink and others to come. The ONLY standard the FPS genre will ever have is First Person Shooting. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.

The definition couldn't possibly be static as, yes, even first person shooters evolve. The evolved genre includes knifing as an effective and viable method for dispatching an opponent. To interpret it any other way is to be narrowmindedly stuck in the past; i.e., there's no logic in it. They may still be called first person shooters, but let's not fixate upon minutae now.

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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:13 am

Not for me. I commend any player that could run up on me and slip a knife in. At the very least, one knife swipe should be a knockdown -- or a random one-hit knockdown to reflect the random nature of knife fights.

In Black Ops, I loved nothing more than to bob, weave and bunnyhop around a hail of Famas or AK74u-launched artillery and stab someone in the face. When it boils right down to it, it's all about skill and if you have little to none, I say bone up. :)

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Too bad. It's out for the same reason headshot OHK's are out - they require far too much skill, and there's absolutely nothing the victim could have done to prevent it. You feel on top of the world, but your victims feel miserable. BRINK doesnt want anyone to feel miserable or ragequit-bound.

The definition couldn't possibly be static as, yes, even first person shooters evolve. The evolved genre includes knifing as an effective and viable method for dispatching an opponent. To interpret it any other way is to be narrowmindedly stuck in the past; i.e., there's no logic in it. They may still be called first person shooters, but let's not fixate upon minutae now.

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Exactly. Even first person shooters evolve. Now look at any of the official videos.

REVOLUTION BEGINS MAY 10TH / 13TH

Look at that. Evolution. Begins May 10th/13th. First person shooters evolve, and they're evolving with BRINK. The fact you cling on to knife OHK's, especially since the game isn't out yet, shows that YOU are the one narrowmindedly stuck in the past, even if that past was just a month ago. There's no logic in it.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:59 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8&feature=related

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Yes?
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:50 am

The fact you cling on to knife OHK's, especially since the game isn't out yet, shows that YOU are the one narrowmindedly stuck in the past, even if that past was just a month ago. There's no logic in it.

Nah, no attachment whatsoever, however, nobody can call me a hypocrite on the overriding fact I've held to all along -- that no matter what mechanics or mechanisms any developer put into this game that causes anyone to naively believe this game remains permanently and unequivocably balanced for everyone, that they are for naught in the face of the one thing that ISN'T constant across all players: skill. Hilighted, italicized and font increased for emphasis. Trust me on this, the foolhardy will still find reason to complain. One hit knife kills or a hundred; the skillful will still find the means to make the foolish even more so.

The idea of the coddled noob is fictional. Yes, even too in Brink, I imagine.

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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:06 am

Nah, no attachment whatsoever, however, nobody can call me a hypocrite on the overriding fact I've held to all along -- that no matter what mechanics or mechanisms any developer put into this game that causes anyone to naively believe this game remains balanced for everyone, that they are for naught in the face of the one thing that isn't constant across all players: skill. Hilighted, italicized and font increased for emphasis. Trust me on this, the foolhardy will still find reason to complain. One hit knife kills or a hundred; the skillful will still find the means to make the foolish even more so.

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While I agree with the gist of the post, I would suggest that too often people mistake the opponents lack of skill for the player having "skills".

Using a 1 button, no draw, wide angle, OHK Knife with good result does not require you to have skill outside of pressing the button, particularly when the majority of the opponents you will face and destroy lack skill.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:05 am

I work in EMS and have seen that a pistol whip usually does more damage to a human body than a knife slash/stab. The blow to the head/neck causes almost immediate unconciousness and death because of the trauma to the brain.


Absolutely. People can survive poles, arrows, and other wounds from sharp objects quite regularly, unlike serious blunt trauma.
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Nah, no attachment whatsoever, however, nobody can call me a hypocrite on the overriding fact I've held to all along -- that no matter what mechanics or mechanisms any developer put into this game that causes anyone to naively believe this game remains permanently and unequivocably balanced for everyone, that they are for naught in the face of the one thing that ISN'T constant across all players: skill. Hilighted, italicized and font increased for emphasis. Trust me on this, the foolhardy will still find reason to complain. One hit knife kills or a hundred; the skillful will still find the means to make the foolish even more so.

The idea of the coddled noob is fictional. Yes, even too in Brink, I imagine.

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Does this mean that Im skillful if I selected commando as a perk in MW2..........
I see your point but you're getting a little extreme.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:30 pm

Does this mean that Im skillful if I selected commando as a perk in MW2..........

There's no relationship whatsoever. A perk doesn't guarantee anything. It may coddle you a bit, but never forever. There's no absolute protection from a person who's a crack shot, or even one who's a quicker draw on the knife than you are, whether or not that person also has Commando equipped. Again, it's naive to believe the mere selection of a perk guarantees your success.
I see your point but you're getting a little extreme.

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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:54 pm

No because it will become like COD, people running around just knifing people and with parkour it just makes it so much easier, i did belive that in the right situation it should EX: Your disguised and your behind the enemy that should be a OHK but after seeing how balanced it is, you can just use a silenced weapon and be done with it
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:15 am

Balance just means that you have a fair chance no matter what you choose to use. No inherent, guaranteed advantage for picking gun A over gun B, for example. I don't think anyone here believes that balance does anything towards closing the gap between skilled and unskilled players. If anything it widens that gap, I say. Only on a level playing field does real skill truly matter.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:34 am

You can kill with the knife, just not OHK..... which means it is going to have to take MORE skill to finish someone off with the knife since it doesn't count as a knock down and the victim has time to react and counter the attack (which is probably why OP/ Flashback Jack are mad). The damage the knife deals is fair and the way it works with the pistol in the other hand is a fair trade off to a gun bunt which is a knock down move. Brink is the anti-COD and I love it for that fact!!
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:29 pm

There's no relationship whatsoever. A perk doesn't guarantee anything. It may coddle you a bit, but never forever. There's no absolute protection from a person who's a crack shot, or even one who's a quicker draw on the knife than you are, whether or not that person also has Commando equipped. Again, it's naive to believe the mere selection of a perk guarantees your success.

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nvincibl
Sorry but you're just wrong, commando made you invincible. With a capital I, I dont care if your no. 1 on the leaderboards good luck trying to kill someone who is invncible, and you cant be quicker on the draw than someone with commando, usually the kill came down to ping/latency.
If you have the audacity to believe that there is no relationship between commando and cheap kills I seriously suggest you go play MW2 and rethink your post.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:39 pm

No inherent, guaranteed advantage for picking gun A over gun B, for example.

Largely speaking, that's what they said about Black Ops. A huge portion of the playerbase believed it too, but as the months wore on, the game devolved into basically everyone picking either the Famas or the AK74u for their obvious advantages -- Famas has basically no recoil, and the 74u is essentially a rapidfire assult rifle in SMG clothing.

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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:44 am

..usually the kill came down to ping/latency.


Uh oh, it's the latency card.

I used to be one of the world's best Tron 2.0 players (an FPS that depends on split second timing as any other) -- on 56K dialup.

Like I said, in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds, where there's a will there's a way.

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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:20 pm

Not for me. I commend any player that could run up on me and slip a knife in. At the very least, one knife swipe should be a knockdown -- or a random one-hit knockdown to reflect the random nature of knife fights.

In Black Ops, I loved nothing more than to bob, weave and bunnyhop around a hail of Famas or AK74u-launched artillery and stab someone in the face. When it boils right down to it, it's all about skill and if you have little to none, I say bone up. :)

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What kind of lag switch are you using? Last time i checked, if you were in the field of view of someone with those weapons, you were instantly killed. Im sorry, but i have never had anyone get close to me with a knife when im using the Uber-cheap AK-74u. Either you are using a mod/hack, have a terrible connection, or were playing against someone whos never played an FPS before.
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Post » Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:47 pm

Uh oh, it's the latency card.

I used to be one of the world's best Tron 2.0 players (an FPS that depends on split second timing as any other) -- on 56K dialup.

Like I said, in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds, where there's a will there's a way.

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I do believe this is a case where lag is working in your favor. If your opponent cant see you because your teleporting around the map, how can he expect to beat you?
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