Yeah, not really much of a humiliation when you can just press a button if you accidentally run into a person.

Also, i like the vote ratio, 11:1

I think for knives to be one-hit kills, they need to be like the half-zatoichi of Team Fortress fame; once they're drawn, you can't switch to any other weapon until you get a kill.I know they're not really"drawn" (You just push a button and you're guy attacks once) But that could be worked around.

CoD is a bad example, and now that I think about it, yeah, BRINK is trying to be as friendly a game as possible.

Generally though, once you get good, people aren't running up and knifing you unless your team lets them flank you. Knifing a good player doesn't happen.

No matter how good you are if you happen to be a heavy an inexperienced light could jump around the corner and throw a random knife at you and kill you, when knives are ohk harbingers of doom generally you get kills when you press a button first not when you have more skill.

115 votes for no, 11 for yes.

The community has spoken.

What I'm saying all the fps I play the knife is ohk so for me it's definitely against the grain of fps I play. Example I like BC2 A LOT but that knife gets ridiculous yes I use it and it goes both ways but a gun should always take out a knife period. I agree I like the slide knock down move and good portion of health taken out with a knife in Brink but it's not a ohk.

OHK encourages chumps to try lone wolf garbage, and that kind of goes against the whole cooperative thing they've been trying to facilitate. As much as I know you want to be a rad ninja operative who wants to hide in the shadows and all the other tripe it doesn't help anything. Hack the gee dang mainframe and give me some gosh darn cover fire.

This topic fails, the OP's argument fails, and OHK anything, fails.

End of discussion!

You just earned another pocket :ninja: for your insight. You are that much closer to being on the same level as Wraith and I.

*takes pipe out of his mouth*
Indeed....
*places pipe back in his mouth and stares out into the distance*

Jab him with a knife, pop a few caps in his ass, and he'll go down without a doubt. Sure it's dangerous getting in close enough to a player to knife, but there's nothing he can do to you along the way that you can't also do to him.


+1 if that Fam Guy reference was intentional.

This isnt call of booty...and about 80% of the time you will be really close to people. Could you imagine running around and just getting stabbed all of a sudden then dying?? I'm pretty sure that'll tick you off. Now imagine that over and over and over. You'll just rage quit, call the game crap and go back to CoD.

Nuff said.

Anyone else dislike the bias and pointless options?

Also knife strike with OHI an unbuffed light.

Indeed......

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy5SckoCX9s

No, stabbing someone won't kill a person any faster than shooting them. I've tried, it's actually more difficult and time-consuming. :biggrin:

Have to have a pistol equipped to have a knife. That in itself is limiting.

Knives do MASSIVE damage compared to other melee attacks, but without the knockdown. Blaze away for a few seconds with your machine pistol as you charge, then knife and finish the job.

A skilled knife wielder irl could kill silently and efficiently with a single hit, but so what? A skilled sniper could headshot for an instant kill, but that's never going to happen in Brink either.

This. Should also apply to grenades, imo.


Also: "NO > running with scissors is dangerous"
Postal reference?

The real-life argument that shooting someone in the skull and/or thorax point-blank will kill them quicker than stabbing them is absolutely true.

However, as far as the game is concerned, I believe that with SMART and the amount of close-quarters combat that Brink entails, coupled with the above-average amount of health that everyone has compared to other games, make it quite impractical to have a one-hit-kill knife. Even if there was no lunge, someone could easily sprint a half-dozen metres before you have time to put half a magazine into them*. Thus making the knife overpowered, or at the very least not fun.

* This is an arbitrary concoction, don't question it.

I will have to disagree.
I am taught that in a close combat (which can happen in real life or in game) knives are much more "destructive". First off knives don't jam, knives have different angles of attacking. I think you got my point.

BUT still a no for a OHK, or else this game will be a light-body fest.

sSpadE, I think he was just quoting the saying, because it had relevance here.

I prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXceET3-awc

A skilled operative would only try this if it was completely necessary, its very dangerous and unpredictable to attack someone with a melee weapon. This would only really be used if it was a SF team that had equipped themselves for a day/loud mission but got themselves in a situation where stealth was key. It would take a while to do the job, slashing main arteries and possibly peircing a lung whiile also holding the persons mouth shut means they would not be able to fire their weapon as it would be slung to their back. It would be much better to have a marksman with a suppressor take a shot or incapacitate the enemy with a silenced sidearm.

This exerpt is taken from a SF soldier who wrote down some guidelines for many different things, tactic related, for induviduals or the team to follow. Here are his thoughts on silent takedowns:

Silent Sentry Take out

Everyone has seen a movie where the good guys sneak up and cut the throat of the bad guy with a knife. This is one of the more difficult methods. Silenced weapons are preferred, bows or crossbows are secondary, knives are used when nothing else is available (like in most infantry units). A garrote can be used also.

Whenever a sentry is designated for 'removal' usually a pair of troopers is assigned the job of removing one or more sentries. One man employs the weapon (usually a knife) and the other man remains ready with his assault rifle (or machine gun) in case things go wrong.

More than two people can be used in a sentry removal team but silent sentry removal will be detailed in another section.







So as you can see, the knife is a last resort weapon for anyone actually in the field. It was put into games to balance and speed up close quarters engagements. They are not even one shot kills IRL, As you can see the garrote and the knife are interchangeable.... this shows you how effective the knife really is. When most people think of knife kills they think of dramatizations, it is just as loud, messy, and time consuming as strangling someone to death. Hope this helps.

It's just a melee weapon. I work in EMS and have seen that a pistol whip usually does more damage to a human body than a knife slash/stab. The blow to the head/neck causes almost immediate unconciousness and death because of the trauma to the brain. Properly maintain your weapon, and it too will not jam.

No OHK anythings please.