I know sprinting is confirmed : V

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:57 am

As sprinting has been confirmed, does that apply to stealth as well? Has that part been confirmed?

I know it’s a little thing but it would make the game so much better I think. Instead of having to get out of stealth to dart across the room for more cover say, obviously you would more likely to be seen when sprinting it stealth but if you executed right it would pay off, like knowing the person is about to turn around and see you so sprint up to them a kill them before your spotted ect.

A perk of stealth maybe?

Your thoughts on this? Other ways it could be implemented perhaps?

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:05 am

I like it, it would have to be louder than sneaking, but quieter than running. It would be a neat way to start a battle, or just for moving from cover to cover.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:59 pm

I'm not sure if you'll be able to Sprint while Sneaking. If you can though it should make a lot of noise when you do so.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:00 pm

I'm not sure if you'll be able to Sprint while Sneaking. If you can though it should make a lot of noise when you do so.

This.

Or at least make it either skill or perk based meaning the higher your skill the less noise you make while sprinting in stealth or a high-end perk that allows you to do so very quietly.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:10 am

This.

Or at least make it either skill or perk based meaning the higher your skill the less noise you make while sprinting in stealth or a high-end perk that allows you to do so very quietly.

A perk in Stealth/Sneak that allows you to Sprint while Sneaking sounds like a good idea.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:55 am

It would be also very useful for following some one through the wilderness undetected. If they got a little to far ahead you could catch up to them without leaving stealth mode.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:56 pm

It would end up looking sort of like the roadie-run in Gears of War so I don't know if I'd like it. But there is that one dragon shout that you whisper that teleports you closer to a target or location of your choosing. I'd rather go with that.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:23 am

I like it, it would have to be louder than sneaking, but quieter than running. It would be a neat way to start a battle, or just for moving from cover to cover.

How would a sprint be quieter than a run?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:32 pm

It didn't make sense to me. Sprinting is focusing totally in going faster.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:09 pm

It would end up looking sort of like the roadie-run in Gears of War so I don't know if I'd like it. But there is that one dragon shout that you whisper that teleports you closer to a target or location of your choosing. I'd rather go with that.

True. I had completely forgotten about that. I'd rather just have that as well.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:40 am

It would be also very useful for following some one through the wilderness undetected. If they got a little to far ahead you could catch up to them without leaving stealth mode.

Think sprinting breaks stealth but the enemy would have a reaction time.
Think of a lion or similar sneaking up on prey, if you are a couple of meters away the enemy fails to react and you get the sneak bonus, 5 meters and you don't get the sneak bonus but the enemy is not ready, 10 meter and the enemy has time to raise the shield but not cast spell or shoot arrows after you before you hit.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:07 am

I can see something like this. Lets say sprint is a short term +100% burst in speed. Stealth has you move at %50 base speed which increases as you level. Sprinting while stealthed would be at +100% of that 1/2 speed so basically bring you up to normal speed. As you improved in stealth you base stealth speed would increase so the +100% sprint speed would eventually have you go faster than you normal move but probably never as fast as a full on sprint, if you want that you have to leave stealth. While stealth sprinting you are at 1/2 skill for determining how well hid you are.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:15 am

how about a perk where you movement speed doesnt penalize your detection

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:46 am

I can see something like this. Lets say sprint is a short term +100% burst in speed. Stealth has you move at %50 base speed which increases as you level. Sprinting while stealthed would be at +100% of that 1/2 speed so basically bring you up to normal speed. As you improved in stealth you base stealth speed would increase so the +100% sprint speed would eventually have you go faster than you normal move but probably never as fast as a full on sprint, if you want that you have to leave stealth. While stealth sprinting you are at 1/2 skill for determining how well hid you are.

Yes a lot like this really. Would work well I think, a small thing but would make a big difference to the way you approach things.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:05 pm

I bet it would look ridiculous, and I'd have a good laugh seeing stealth NPCs sprint-sneaking towards me.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:16 am

My guess is it'll probably just take you out of sneak mode when you sprint. I can't think of a way to have them both at the same time and NOT look completely ridiculous.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:01 am

Sprinting is a full on run. It may as well be the opposite of sneak.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:46 am

Sprinting while stealthed should be a high level sneak perk. Basically turns you into a ninja, like in Fallout 3.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:33 pm

Sprinting is a full on run. It may as well be the opposite of sneak.

all right not so much as a sprint, but moving swiftly in between cover.

like orzorn said a high perk of sneak maybe

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:28 am

My guess is it'll probably just take you out of sneak mode when you sprint. I can't think of a way to have them both at the same time and NOT look completely ridiculous.

Not being able to hustle when sneaking would feel more ridiculous to me.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:52 pm

If you want to move faster while sneaking, you can just run. Full on sprinting while sneaking seems a bit ridiculous.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:10 am

Not being able to hustle when sneaking would feel more ridiculous to me.

What looks completely ridiculous is the sneak animation from Morrowind and Oblivion. Since when did a person have to be half-crouching like they're pooping their pants to be sneaking around? Sneaking is about being quiet, moving through the shadows or cover, and staying out of people's field of vision. Its NOT about some ridiculous squatting position.

I say get read of the sneak mode. It never made sense.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:06 am

Or, if you press the sprint button while in stealth mode, it would allow you to execute a roll that could be a life saver in some places. Since you're not going to be wearing heavy armor (hopefully) it wouldn't make alot of noise and it would be useful to get into cover.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:04 pm

I wouldn't mind being able to "sprint" in stealth mode, but:

You should receive a penalty to your stealth/sneak.
Your speed would be slower than running while not in stealth (since while sneaking you already move at a slower pace.)
Possibly sprinting in stealth draining your fatigue/stamina at a higher rate than sprinting when not in stealth.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:06 pm

I say get read of the sneak mode. It never made sense.

While I agree the animations leave a lot to be desired, get rid of sneak mode? And eliminate being able to play as a covert type of character? Surely not!