Kotick is a [censored] (again)

Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:51 am

I hope Metrophor doesn't mind my taking a page out of her play book, but;

HATE BEAMS ACTIVATE!
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Ebony Lawson
 
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:28 am

I hope Metrophor doesn't mind my taking a page out of her play book, but;

HATE BEAMS ACTIVATE!

I'm blinded by the intensity!

I think this is a stupid idea.
I also think that more games need to sell the soundtracks.
And I think that Bungie needs to make a live action Halo game.
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cassy
 
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:05 am

I'm blinded by the intensity!

I think this is a stupid idea.
I also think that more games need to sell the soundtracks.
And I think that Bungie needs to make a live action Halo game.

An FMV Halo game? No thanks.

Or were you thinking of something along the lines of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UYTCbKxnjE?
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:32 pm

Or were you thinking of something along the lines of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UYTCbKxnjE?


GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL. :blink:
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:56 am

Hah! If that ever happens i'll eat my hat.

Yeah, you're likely not to be one hat short anytime soon, but a man can dream right?
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Philip Lyon
 
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:27 am

I don't see the issue here. They didn't say they were to actually remove the cutscenes from the games and sell them separately.


Well, there wouldn't be much point in selling them separately if you're NOT going to remove them from the game, since people could just watch the cutscenes in the game too. Granted, people already sell video game soundtracks, but the thing here is that for soundtracks, you might want to listen to them separately from the game, while you're browsing the internet or something, generally speaking, game soundtracks are the sort of thing you can enjoy even when heard out of context, as while their primary purpose is to enhance the atmosphere of the game, if the music is good, you might also want to listen to it as you would any other piece of music. For cutscenes, on the other hand, you usually want to watch them in context, as part of the game's story, as generally, cutscenes serve the purpose of advancing the story, thus while watching them out of context, you might just end up being confused. Sure, they might look cool, but that's not reason enough for me to pay money for something that's already included with the game I bought. Plus, I'm pretty sure some games keep a record of cutscenes you've seen so you can watch them at any time if you want to see them again, thus, there's no need to pay to watch them. In the end, if I wanted to watch a video game movie, I'd watch an actual movie based on a video game, well, I would if there were good ones to watch, but that's a different matter entirely.

Either way, I'd say this is a bad idea, because if they don't take the cutscenes out of the game, it's a waste of effort on the designer's part, I can't see selling out of context cutscenes that already appear in-context in the game being something there will be a high demand for. And if they actually take the cutscenes out of the game to sell them seperately, then they're giving me less when I buy the game so that they can charge me more for what should have been part of the standard package later, and I will make my thoughts known on such a practice by refusing to buy their games. In the end, if you really want more of my money after I've bought the game, then just release an expansion or something, that's something I'm willing to pay for.

I disagree with Kotick's business ethics and I won't buy any of Activision's games, so I don't see why I'm jumping on a bandwagon to dislike him because it's ''popular''. It's because I don't like the direction he is working towards the industry going, because it's not good for us, the consumers. You can say it's business all you want, but if they want my money, they're going to have to work for it, and I can only hope other people speak with their wallets too.


Quite a good point. While I'm sure that there are those who do indeed jump on the bandwagon and hate something because it's popular (I've seen examples myself, after all.) not everyone who doesn't approve of what the developers of popular games are doing is hating them because it's popular. It could sometimes be because they just don't like the impact their business practices have on the industry, or their games don't appeal to them. And while you could say that businesses are free to create whatever products they like or use whatever sort of business practices they like (As long as they don't break any laws.) I also don't have to approve of their methods, or support them with my money. I have nothing against businesses wanting to make money, but if they want mine, they have to earn it by providing products that I'm willing to pay for, after all, I also have the freedom to not buy any products I don't like, and I exercise that freedom.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:54 am

Can't see this idea working out too well. As long as there's Youtube, at least.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:07 pm

I don't know how he is the president.


Easy. The shareholders of Activision say: WE WANT MORE MONEY FROM YOU!
Then Activision CEO said: But I'm in the buissness of making good games, not just money
Shareholders: YOU'RE FIRED!!! Kotchick, you're hired. NOW MAKE US SOME MONEY!!!
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:52 am

(Who in their right mind is going to spend $30 for jumbled together CGI cutscenes?)


Hmm, the same people who bought that "http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cmpid=0101&cId=3178849" that is only cosmetic and doesn't come with any bonuses, all for 25$, earning Blizzard 2 millions $ in 4 hours? There's a lot of money to be made with this. ;)
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:58 am

Who in their right mind is going to spend $30 for jumbled together CGI cutscenes?

This.
Hell, I won't pay more than ten bucks at the movies, to see two hours of excellent movie (LotR), with state-of-art CGI and one of the best stories ever written, with surround sound, wide screen yadda yadda yadda... am I right?

He sure knows what his stockholders want though.
Ah yes, the real customers. :obliviongate:

Don't forget kiddies, we're the resource, stock holders are the customers. :deal:



I hope Metrophor doesn't mind my taking a page out of her play book, but;

HATE BEAMS ACTIVATE!
dude, you singed my eyebrows with that one. Next time.. take a step back, will ya? :flamethrower:
:P


Ah well, I'm sure some idiot with too much money and less than adequate brain functions will get svcked into this.
Edit: As cliffworms just ninja'ed me with. Thanks Cliffy. :goodjob:
But next time, Cliffy... next time indeed.... :ninja:


Personally speaking, me and mine won't be phased by it, because Activision doesn't exist as far as we're concerned.

Just like Ubisoft... and some others.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:35 am

Except that Mario has been one character in a huge variety of different games because he's a mascot. Did you know that the only time there's been a sequel to a Mario game in many years was Mario Galaxy 2?

Yeah, but most of those Mario games have essentially been the same game with cosmetic upgrades since 1996.

Don't forget kiddies, we're the resource, stock holders are the customers. :deal:

Ah well, time to cut off the supply, isn't it?
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:10 am

Except that Mario has been one character in a huge variety of different games because he's a mascot. Did you know that the only time there's been a sequel to a Mario game in many years was Mario Galaxy 2? I don't see the problem with having a mascot character in a huge variety of games that you know... play entirely differently. As opposed to Call of Duty which since CoD4 is pretty much the exact same game with a couple of gimmicky additions.

I disagree with Kotick's business ethics and I won't buy any of Activision's games, so I don't see why I'm jumping on a bandwagon to dislike him because it's ''popular''. It's because I don't like the direction he is working towards the industry going, because it's not good for us, the consumers. You can say it's business all you want, but if they want my money, they're going to have to work for it, and I can only hope other people speak with their wallets too.

And it totally does have to do with you playing devil's advocate, because you do it in every single thread and everyone knows it at this point.


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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:54 am

Yeah, you're likely not to be one hat short anytime soon, but a man can dream right?


Indeed. I'd rather be naive than cynical, but i fear it's too late for me :(

Personally speaking, me and mine won't be phased by it, because Activision doesn't exist as far as we're concerned.


QFT, with the exception of Starcraft 2. So i'm not really boycotting anything, am i? :blush:

Well, if they're not going to remove them from the game, as that first article could be interpreted, no problem. I have yet to play a game that i would buy a cutscene collection of, though.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:36 pm

QFT, with the exception of Starcraft 2. So i'm not really boycotting anything, am i? :blush:

Starcraft 2 will be bought in a years time when it lands in the bargain basemant bin, for five bucks, and not a day earlier. Same for Settlers 7, and any other games from companies that side with satan.

I'm not gonna deprive myself of a gaming experience just because the company is crap, but I'll be damned if I'm paying their top dollar for it.

Or I'll get it second hand, even better :evil:
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:22 am

Or I'll get it second hand, even better :evil:


I don't think that works with SC2, since you have to create a B.Net account to play it...
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:22 pm

Gamesradar.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:46 am

Kotick jus' wants t' sell stuff nobody in the'r right mind would ere buy. I be havin' nothin' t' say against that.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:02 pm

Doesn't bother me, the cutscenes will still be in the game so no big deal.

And I'm pretty sure people misinterpret it when he says "take them out of the game." I'm positive that he just means sell them like you would a sound track.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:55 am

"Yes he's a total scumbag because he turned a dead company into one of the biggest most successful entertainment companies in the world. They need to get rid of him and hire someone like me whose biggest accomplishment is finishing COD4 on veteran. (and of course that's the last COD I bought because the last two 90+ rated ones were crap)."

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
So lame it needs 3 facepalms.

Found a link in the comments that led to this site.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:20 am

Obviously he won't be taking the cutscenes out of the games. The point is, he's being a greedy bastard like usual, milking his games for all they're worth, and then leaving a husk of a game. Call of Duty is a good example of this.

No, this decision won't hurt gamers. It's just utterly stupid and it shows that he doesn't belong in this industry, because obviously he himself doesn't understand games.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:41 am

Bobby Kotick is an utter moron. Honestly I don't think he understands at all what gamers want out of the video games. (Who in their right mind is going to spend $30 for jumbled together CGI cutscenes?) Bobby Kotick is a greedy [censored] who needs to stop making suggestions on Activision's business practices.

This is up there with his suggestion of putting a price on being able to play the online components of CoD when we already have to pay for LIVE.

And this is why i stopped buying games made by Activi$ion.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:51 am

Obviously he won't be taking the cutscenes out of the games. The point is, he's being a greedy bastard like usual, milking his games for all they're worth, and then leaving a husk of a game. Call of Duty is a good example of this.


Wait, what?

You're not making any sense at all. How is MW2 a "husk of a game"? It's one of the most popular games of the year, a resounding success in every single way, are you saying that everyone who plays it is a huge idiot who can't decide for themselves what to buy?

The game has extensive multiplayer options, and it's possible to buy new maps if you want them. How the hell is that a "husk of a game"?

No, this decision won't hurt gamers. It's just utterly stupid and it shows that he doesn't belong in this industry, because obviously he himself doesn't understand games.


Oh yes, because Activision going from a company on the brink of bankruptcy to one of the largest video game companies in the world under the leadership of Kotick was just a huge coincidence, hmmm?

He knows how a business is run, you clearly don't. It's no surprise that you're not the CEO of a company worth hundreds of millions.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:35 am

I mean i ike cutscenes, but i wouldnt pay for them. Only a idiot wouldnt know that (im looking at you Kotick :stare:)
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:23 pm

He know how a business is run, you clearly don't. It's no surprise that you're not the CEO of a company worth hundreds of millions.

Yes... he really knows what the games industry needs most. :rolleyes:
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:26 am

/snip


I never claimed to be able to be the CEO of a majorly successful company.

What I am saying, however, is that I'm a gamer, and I DO know how I like my games handled.

Of course Modern Warfare 2 was successful. I never said that it wasn't, did I? And I applaud Kotick for handling it so....well. But it did have some major problems that gave it a bit of a bad reputation with some people. Cod4 was innovative, fun, and balanced. Mw2 threw much of that away.

I'm not criticizing anyone for playing or buying it. I myself still play it sometimes. However, Kotick's choices are obviously not from a gamer's standpoint. They're from someone who wants to make as much money as they can and think nothing more of it. This is totally understandable, as money is quite important. Kotick simply doesn't seem to understand that games are about having fun, and that not everyone will buy what he puts out.
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