Well I did the Garlas Malatar quest-killed Umaril in RL, then Spirit World. I fell, and was greeted by the speech from Amiel when I woke up. I then went through the door from the crypt to the basemant and my Sir Thedret running and exclaiming how awesome I am and how I should see my knights. Of curse I was eager to see who survived so rushed outside ahead of Thedret. All the named knights had survived, but I soon realised that there were only seven of them (+ Sir Thedret). I switched on UESP and found that I should have a ninth unamed knight called 'knight of the nine' and a friend of Sir Thedrets who would come to be my blacksmith.

I then realised Sir Thedret was not with me so I went back to the basemant and found him waiting there. Me and him then journeyed up, this time with him and he did his speech. I waited for a week for the unamed Knight and the Blacksmith to arrive, and they still haven't arrived. What should I do? I need the services of the blacksmith (she is cheaper for repairing/buying/selling) and I want the unamed Knight as a Companion (I don't want any of the named ones to die).

I have it on PS3 so can't do any console commands. Where are the Blacksmith and unamed guy? answers please guys. Was it because I went outside, right after my 'death', without Sir Thedret to start with (before I went back for him)


(I have only played this questline once before, on my PS3 and it worked, all of them were there.)