Krautgaming article of Skyrim @ Gamescom

Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:41 am

I thought you do? You get a word form a word wall, and a dragon's soul powers that word into a shout. Correct me though, I am sure I am off :tongue:

You learn the words from the word walls, but you can only use the shout, if you absorb dragon souls. That's how I think it works.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:55 pm

But one thing is sure: the guy really didn't have any experience with TES. Otherwise he would have understood that the leveling system in TES (imo) is one of the best...

So, the bit where he says that you don't always have to re-invent the wheel, and that the system of advancing a character through practising skills is a well-tried system that hasn't been thrown over-board (and he seems to approve of that)... that's him not having any experience of TES? Really?
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:36 am

WTF? Fear is an element?
They also claim that you can gain new shouts by absorbing dragon souls.



I can not wait to make weapons and armour out of pure, undiluted FEAR!
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:07 pm

Nothing new here. :|
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:07 pm

You learn the words from the word walls, but you can only use the shout, if you absorb dragon souls. That's how I think it works.

Yeah, Todd Howard showed how you unlock them int he E3 demo I believe. If not he did in the Quakecon demo.

You learn the words via word walls, then unlock the words using a dragon soul. For example: You discover Fus Roh Dah. When you go into the shout menu and scroll over to "Fus Roh Dah" the words will appear greyed out. If you have some dragon souls stored up, you could choose to "unlock" one of the words, "Fus" being the first. That would take up one dragon soul. You would require three souls to unlock the full shout.

However, you can still use the partial shout "Fus" or "Fus Roh" it just won't be as powerful.

Edited for clarity.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:30 am

Comic book style - top or flop?

The fifth part of the Elder Scrolls series played in Hot Pursuit, home of the North. It is a very mountainous and mainly white area, because the snow dominated large parts of the landscape. If we have the game already just for the looks, is relatively clear that even Skyrim the current trend towards comic book look and can not resist not strong, but quite clearly visible just goes in that direction. Of course, Skyrim not as colorful as a Marvel comic, but somehow it does not fit.

Lol this poor German guy doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Since when has TES aimed at being a Marvel Comic book? How can you even compare those two?

For although the series has always been based in fantasy area, but was also always placed a relatively high degree of realism. And this same goes with the new look a little whistle, unfortunately.

Unfortunately? Maybe he needs to play Spiderman: Edge of Time. Seems to really be into comic books.

Even if you have installed many new features is quite useful and good, but it unfortunately nothing of what you would not have or something like that already seen in other games. Skyrim will be fun and captivate us many hours in front of the screen, because there is nothing to shake. But the hype surrounding the game seems somewhat misplaced, because really what makes Skyrim not new unfortunately.

It's nothing new? Are you daft boy? It has more upgrades than any sequel coming out this year. I bet this fellow's the type of idiot who praises ME3 for being "innovative".
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:42 am

Seems fair
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:27 am

Seems fair

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Even if what he says is true about it being overhyped 'which i wouldnt be suprised about since every single game today generally does get overhyped to some extent' this game has the potential TO be the greatest, due to the fact it can be modded =) so im not worried. It will last me half a decade, or whenever TESVI comes out~
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:20 am

It sounds more like an attempt at humour.
I mean.....

there are hardly any good single player RPGs


I can name quite a few bad ones, quite a few good ones, some fantastic ones.
This is most likely an anonymous someone attempting to get a reaction out of lots of anonymous someones like us.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:26 am

Seems fair

It's not. He's an ignorant tool.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:59 pm

Nothing new here. :|

Yeah, but the translations are always funny.

But enough [censored]ing...I can't wait to play The Elder Scrolls: Hot Pursuit. :)
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:06 am

:rofl: what joke, I understand the loss in translation part, but... really? Comparing it to a Marvel Comic? Saying the dragon became confused because of the storm? This guy may have played the game but obviously he walked in and just found out TES existed.

Edit: could someone give better translation? A couple parts had me going ...wtf?... also to his closing paragraph NO [censored] IT ISN'T NEW THERE AS BEEN FOUR PREVIOUS GAMES
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:19 am

Don't read too much into his negativity. Probably just some moron who can't tell a great open world game 'cause he spends too much time with CoD-like shooters :facepalm:


Imma let you finish...but I strongly suggest you google the "ad-hominem fallacy". Something tells me you two would get along very well.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:49 am

Unfortunately? Maybe he needs to play Spiderman: Edge of Time. Seems to really be into comic books.


Actually that's a bit of a Google translate error. What he's saying there is actually that the high level of realism that it's predecessors had, suffers under the new graphical (more comic-book like) style that Skyrim has. Sounds to me like he was high, honestly. If anything, Skyrim looks a lot less fantsy and more realistic than Oblivion and about on-par with Morrowind.

I'm not German so I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure the translation of that part is roughly this:

Wenn wir schon gerade bei dem Aussehen des Spiels sind, f?llt relativ deutlich auf, dass sich auch Skyrim dem aktuellen Trend in Richtung Comic-Look nicht widersetzen kann und zwar nicht stark, aber durchaus deutlich sichtbar in eben diese Richtung geht. Natürlich ist Skyrim nicht bunt wie ein Marvel-Comic aber irgendwie passt es nicht. Denn obwohl die Reihe schon immer in Fantasybereich angesiedelt war, wurde dennoch immer Wert auch einen relativ hohen Realismusgrad gelegt. Und eben dieser geht mit dem neuen Look etwas fl?ten, leider. Auch wenn der Punkt vielleicht etwas haarspalterisch wirkt und viele der neue Stil in keinster Weise st?rt, gibt es sicherlich den ein oder anderen Fan, den genau diese Tatsache an Skyrim st?ren wird.
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When we've only just begun playing the game, it becomes relatively clear, that even Skyrim hasn't completely missed out on the latest Comic-look trend and, though not heavily, quite clearly leans toward that style. Of course it's not as colorful as a Marvel-comic, but somehow it doesn't fit. Because even though the series has always been fantasy, the world has always been quite realistically displayed. But this has sadly been lost a bit with the new look. Even though this might sound a bit unimportant and most people won't mind the new style, some fans may be really bothered by this fact.


As I said I'm not German and don't understand it perfectly, but I think this translation covers it quite well.

EDIT:Added the German part for clarity
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:29 am

Actually that's a bit of a Google translate error. What he's saying there is actually that the high level of realism that it's predecessors had, suffers under the new graphical (more comic-book like) style that Skyrim has. Sounds to me like he was high, honestly. If anything, Skyrim looks a lot less fantsy and more realistic than Oblivion and about on-par with Morrowind.

I'm not German so I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure the translation of that part is roughly this:



As I said I'm not German and don't understand it perfectly, but I think this translation covers it quite well.

EDIT:Added the German part for clarity

If that's the case... he's still an ignorant tool. :rolleyes:
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:27 am

If that's the case... he's still an ignorant tool. :rolleyes:


I agree, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Just wanted to clear that up.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:10 am

:rofl: what joke, I understand the loss in translation part, but... really? Comparing it to a Marvel Comic? Saying the dragon became confused because of the storm? This guy may have played the game but obviously he walked in and just found out TES existed.

Edit: could someone give better translation? A couple parts had me going ...wtf?... also to his closing paragraph NO [censored] IT ISN'T NEW THERE AS BEEN FOUR PREVIOUS GAMES

Err... he said it didn't look like a Marvel comic. As for the dragon becoming 'confused', I'm betting that it was Google translate that got confused. And did you actually read the parts where he talked about how they've retained the way TES levels your character through practising skills? Because that doesn't sound like he doesn't know the series. As for his closing paragraph, he was saying Skyrim is an evolution of what's gone before not a total re-invention.

Honestly, how many people posting on here have actually taken time to READ what he said, and to THINK about what he meant and what Google translate mucked up???!!! Or does everyone just want to mock a journalist who doesn't gush praise with every word?
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:53 pm

Err... he said it didn't look like a Marvel comic. As for the dragon becoming 'confused', I'm betting that it was Google translate that got confused. And did you actually read the parts where he talked about how they've retained the way TES levels your character through practising skills? Because that doesn't sound like he doesn't know the series. As for his closing paragraph, he was saying Skyrim is an evolution of what's gone before not a totally re-invention.

Honestly, how many people posting on here have actually taken time to READ what he said, and to THINK about what he meant and what Google translate mucked up???!!! Or does everyone just want to mock a journalist who doesn't gush praise with every word?


You'd have to admit he says some strange things. Bashing him seems a bit harsh as he makes mostly the same remarks as every other preview I've read, but especially that part about the art style is weird. How is Skyrim less realistic than it's predecessors? I don't see it anyway.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:23 pm

Yeah, but the translations are always funny.

But enough [censored]ing...I can't wait to play The Elder Scrolls: Hot Pursuit. :)


You got it all wrong:

It's The elder scrolls V: The Old Republic, in the hot pursuit world of Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:30 pm

I started disregarding everything he said, good or bad, after he called it The Elder Scrolls V: The Old Republic.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:07 pm

You'd have to admit he says some strange things. Bashing him seems a bit harsh as he makes mostly the same remarks as every other preview I've read, but especially that part about the art style is weird. How is Skyrim less realistic than it's predecessors? I don't see it anyway.

His comment about the artstyle is, as far as I can see, the only strange thing he says. And he says it about the most subjective part of the game.

What else does he say that's strange? And by that I don't mean what is so garbled by a crappy auto-translate that it is totally incomprehensible - "The dragon is in such a confused and disturbed when he flies and crashes will be easy prey for you" is so far from grammatically correct that you simply can't trust that part of the translation. Apart from the fact that the storm made the dragon crash and the player could finish it off when it was on the ground - which we already knew anyway.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:24 am

This may shed some light on the comic book comparison.

I believe in GI issue that had Skryim on the cover it was mentioned that Conan was an influence for the looks of Skyrim (I am not 100% one this, could be wrong). Marvel published several Conan series from the 70-90's, John Buscema was one the defining artists for several of the different series. I think that may be the basis for the reviewer's comparison, and that would make sense if Conan was one of the influences.

After reading the review I can't help but see some Buscema/Conan influence in the warrior used for the page background and in some of the demos, which for me is not a bad thing.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:48 am

You guys need to realize he didn't call Skyrim "The Old Republic", it was the stupid translator :brokencomputer:
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:36 am

the first overall negative preview of skyrim. ive read


The translation is quite terrible in the OP; some of the wording and meaning were way off from the original thought. And no it was not a negative preview; they actually were very impressed.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:49 am

His comment about the artstyle is, as far as I can see, the only strange thing he says. And he says it about the most subjective part of the game.

What else does he say that's strange? And by that I don't mean what is so garbled by a crappy auto-translate that it is totally incomprehensible - "The dragon is in such a confused and disturbed when he flies and crashes will be easy prey for you" is so far from grammatically correct that you simply can't trust that part of the translation. Apart from the fact that the storm made the dragon crash and the player could finish it off when it was on the ground - which we already knew anyway.


Ok I'll give you that, that's probably the only weird thing he says and even though liking a style is subjective, giving it a certain name is not necessarily. You can't say in any way, for example, that Skyrim is Anime. It's not. That's a fact. But there's some leeway there, so I agree with you on that point.

As for the dragon part, it's not that weird when translated correctly.

Welche Macht so ein Schrei besitzt wurde eindrucksvoll im Kampf gegen einen Drachen unter Beweis gestellt. Denn nachdem ihr den Eisdrachen soweit mit Pfeil und Bogen geschw?cht habt beschw?rt ihr eben erw?hntes Gewitter herbei. Der Drache wird dabei so verwirrt und beim Fliegen gest?rt dass er abstürtzt und für euch zur leichten Beute wird. Sobald das Monstrum vor euch auf dem Boden liegt ist die Sache gelaufen und ihr k?nnt eine weitere Drachenseele in euch aufnehmen.
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The power a shout possesses, is clearly demonstrated in combat with a dragon. After you've shot the Ice Dragon with bow and arrow you conjure up a thunderstorm. The dragon becomes so confused and hindered in it's flight that it crashes and becomes an easy prey for you. As soon as the monster lies before you on the ground the race is run and you can absorb another dragon soul.


Again, not German don't pin me on it but should be correct.
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