Kyoma's journal : IV

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:28 pm

The writing in the journal vanished, here is the log

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Begin updating process for Quick Start. Current version is 0.00 - Update index is 1.
Pre-update array variables
JrnlArrMain ID: 0 Count: -1
JrnlArrSearch ID: 0 Count: -1
JrnlArrCategories ID: 0 Count: -1
JrnlArrBooks ID: 0 Count: -1
JrnlArrTexts ID: 0 Count: -1
JrnlArrImages ID: 0 Count: -1
JrnlArrMain == 0. Create array.
JrnlArrSearch == 0. Create array.
JrnlArrCategories == 0. Create array.
JrnlArrBooks == 0. Create array.
JrnlArrImages == 0. Create array.
Version is below 2.0.0 - Update and convert 'spell' entries. Count is: -1.
Creating default 'Journal Book'.
Adding misc item +[Menu Journal].
Post-update array variables
JrnlArrMain ID: 1 Count: 1
JrnlArrSearch ID: 2 Count: 1
JrnlArrCategories ID: 3 Count: 0
JrnlArrBooks ID: 4 Count: 0
JrnlArrImages ID: 5 Count: 26
Finished update process for Quick Start. New version is 3.21.
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hope it helps

edit: also wont save new writing, uninstalling and reinstalling it to see if that fixes it

edit 2:

didnt fix, it happened after I merged the patch with mmm being merged with ++ instead of a checkmark

load list

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Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
03 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
04 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
08 ImprovedSigns.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
09 Reznod_Mannequin.esp
0A Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 3.4.3]
0B DLCOrrery.esp
0C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
0D DLCVileLair.esp
0E DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
0F DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
10 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
11 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
12 Thieves Arsenal.esp
13 DLCThievesDen.esp
14 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
15 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
16 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
17 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp [Version 1.33]
18 OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp [Version 1.33]
19 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
1A Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
1B Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
1C Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Moderate Increased.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
1D Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
1E Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
1F goldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.esp
20 DLCFrostcrag.esp
21 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
22 FrostcragAlchemySorter.esp
23 Knights.esp
24 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
25 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
26 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
27 HaroK_Arrow_Forge.esp
28 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.0]
29 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]
2A ATakesAll.esp
2B SM Hand Combat.esp [Version 1.0]
2C Better Sneak Attacks.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
2D Frostcrag For Busy People.esp
2E MM12HourAlwaysOn.esp
2F Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:20 pm

Did it work at some point? Also, does the 'no saving' apply to writing in books AND in the messageboxes?

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:19 am

Did it work at some point? Also, does the 'no saving' apply to writing in books AND in the messageboxes?

it worked like a charm before today, and yes

worked fine before merging Most of the MMM's you see merged on my list

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:41 am

What version of OBSE and Pluggy are you using?

17 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp [Version 1.33]
18 OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp [Version 1.33]

By the way, there was never a LITE release for OOO 1.34, so the two 1.33 files you have there are unnecessary. Both those functions are included in the FULL version that you are using now.

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:59 am

What version of OBSE and Pluggy are you using?

By the way, there was never a LITE release for OOO 1.34, so the two 1.33 files you have there are unnecessary. Both those functions are included in the FULL version that you are using now.

thanks, will remove

Pluggy_Dev_v132-23979
obse_0018_beta_6

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:06 am

Could "A" Takes All cause a problem?

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:57 pm

Could "A" Takes All cause a problem?

have used it all week without a problem works like pressing the a button in fallout3

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:05 am

Check your "\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Pluggy\User Files\XXX's Journal\Journal Books" folder and open the text documents.

Is the text still in those text files? There are backup files as well, so check those.

Did you start a new character with the same name at any point?

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:43 am

Check your "\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Pluggy\User Files\XXX's Journal\Journal Books" folder and open the text documents.

Is the text still in those text files? There are backup files as well, so check those.

Did you start a new character with the same name at any point?

there is one .txt, that one has writing

in \My Games\Oblivion\Pluggy\User Files\Journal Books
this one is empty

I reinstalled obse and pluggy after removing them, not the cause, problem persists,
unmerged MMM, not the cause, problem persists
loaded previous save, same problem

three .tct files in the folder you mentioned, all have writing

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:47 pm

Do you use a UI mod? Some mods install menus for various things, even if they are not UI reskinners. This is weird...

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:28 pm

Do you use a UI mod? Some mods install menus for various things, even if they are not UI reskinners. This is weird...

the darkui by darkbirdy that you suggested, installed the kyoma for darkbirdy over it

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:22 pm

Well, that is not the problem then...I do not think Kyoma's mod overlaps with other mods with menu files either. When you deactivated MMM, the form IDs of all of the mods above it changed. Does the mod work if you load a save prior to deactivating (and using pseudo-activation through merging.) Try that out. Is that the only change you have made since it stopped working?

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:42 pm

Well, that is not the problem then...I do not think Kyoma's mod overlaps with other mods with menu files either. When you deactivated MMM, the form IDs of all of the mods above it changed. Does the mod work if you load a save prior to deactivating (and using pseudo-activation through merging.) Try that out. Is that the only change you have made since it stopped working?

only change, kyoma's menu overrides, but it is loaded last, I didnt deactivate it, originally had a checkmark in front, merged to ++, kyoma stopped working, unmerged MMM from ++ to a check mark again, still not working

and loaded prior save game, same problem

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:41 am

If you cannot save new entries with a prior save, then that change should not be the one that made Kyoma's mod go all disfunctional...Try reinstalling Kyoma's mod on the older save.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:13 pm

If you cannot save new entries with a prior save, then that change should not be the one that made Kyoma's mod go all disfunctional...Try reinstalling Kyoma's mod on the older save.

did, came up blank... love this mod, dont know what went wrong, may have to restart. will start a new game, see what happens

started new game, works fine. may have corrupted somewhere in the last 3 saves... guess I will have to restart

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:53 pm

FormID changes can hurt sometimes, but I am surprised going back to a save before the change was implemented did not work. Try going back to that one again now that the mod is working.

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:33 am

FormID changes can hurt sometimes, but I am surprised going back to a save before the change was implemented did not work. Try going back to that one again now that the mod is working.

nope, still wont work, on any save game in the last 2 days, it crashed 2 days ago, perhaps the file corrupted, and it saved through each til it busted? dont know, you guys would know if that were possible

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:29 pm

If it crashed two days ago, load an earlier save...? I was about to recommend removing the pluggy and OBSE files that are saved with those save, but maybe that would break other things...Try it on one of the saves. Move the Pluggy and OBSE save information files out of the folder temporarily. Maybe they were corrupted somehow. Actually, just move the pluggy file. I am pretty sure they save information with each save...It has been too long since I looked at my Ob setup...

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:50 pm

If it crashed two days ago, load an earlier save...? I was about to recommend removing the pluggy and OBSE files that are saved with those save, but maybe that would break other things...Try it on one of the saves. Move the Pluggy and OBSE save information files out of the folder temporarily. Maybe they were corrupted somehow. Actually, just move the pluggy file. I am pretty sure they save information with each save...It has been too long since I looked at my Ob setup...

lol, I loaded a save from 3 days ago, and it was still busted, but the new game works well, so just gonna start over. somewhere in the old save data something broke, I sent what info I had. if it happens again, I will try to remember to go into the console for the history.

and yeah, sine my mods require obse, removing them would definitely break other things, and pluggy is required for the journal so removing it would definitely break the journal we are trying to fix.

:banghead: :brokencomputer:

restart, ahh works now.=) I wasnt that far in, a restart won't hurt me

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:58 am

lol, I loaded a save from 3 days ago, and it was still busted, but the new game works well, so just gonna start over. somewhere in the old save data something broke, I sent what info I had. if it happens again, I will try to remember to go into the console for the history.

and yeah, sine my mods require obse, removing them would definitely break other things, and pluggy is required for the journal so removing it would definitely break the journal we are trying to fix.

:banghead: :brokencomputer:

restart, ahh works now.=) I wasnt that far in, a restart won't hurt me

I was not telling you to delete pluggy. Look at the saves in your folder, you will notice that every save is also associated with some other files. For examples:

somesave.ess
somesave.bak
somesave.o ...whatever OBSE's information save is
somesave.p ...whatever Pluggy's information save is

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:39 pm

I was not telling you to delete pluggy. Look at the saves in your folder, you will notice that every save is also associated with some other files. For examples:

somesave.ess
somesave.bak
somesave.o ...whatever OBSE's information save is
somesave.p ...whatever Pluggy's information save is

ah!!! hence me banging my head in the wall.

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:30 am

Yes, I was thinking that bad information might be contained in those and not necessarily the saves themselves, but I do not really know what purpose those files serve, heheh.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:45 pm

Yes, I was thinking that bad information might be contained in those and not necessarily the saves themselves, but I do not really know what purpose those files serve, heheh.

well, uhm, cant trouble shoot it anymore,well you see... I erased all the save game folder and started it back up just fine, so yeah, had to be one of them, but who knows which, if the problem comes up again, I will post it and the files

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:56 pm

Awww, well I just hope the problem does not happen again.

» Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:39 am

Sorry to hear it's been giving you that much trouble.