Lack of attention : Othor Games

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:51 am

You'd be surprised how much Cod Stuff they already proposed here on the forums.

Most of the people that suggest those things just want CoD with SMART tho, rather than Brink with some CoD elements.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:39 pm

Most of the people that suggest those things just want CoD with SMART tho, rather than Brink with some CoD elements.

Yep, that's my opinion as well. We rather have Brink with Brink elements only.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:41 pm

Most of the people that suggest those things just want CoD with SMART tho, rather than Brink with some CoD elements.

I remember more "Bad Company 2 SMART please" threads than COD-threads, actually.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:13 pm

Yep, that's my opinion as well. We rather have Brink with Brink elements only.

I remember more "Bad Company 2 SMART please" threads than COD-threads, actually.

You mean like Brink needs vehicles thread?

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:46 am

You mean like Brink needs vehicles thread?

Not to mention destructibility. Which might be interesting, but wouldn't mix with smart.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:15 pm

Not to mention destructibility. Which might be interesting, but wouldn't mix with smart.

People in glass houses sink ships.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:34 pm

I like gamespot. I think they will give us some exclusive stuff as soon as they can. I can't wait for the next few months when we are flooded with content.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:55 am

Im praying the game goes under the cod communities radar, don't mind if the bf community join in because it's a team based game! But good god if the cod fan boys n girls join, this forum will be doomed!

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:12 am

Im praying the game goes under the cod communities radar, don't mind if the bf community join in because it's a team based game! But good god if the cod fan boys n girls join, this forum will be doomed!

BF isn't really that team based. Its people not the community that are the problem.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:59 pm

On the other hand the game needs a big playerbase.
Dont want it to go the same way like ETQW.
Great game but huge lack of players, after one year I had to connect to an USA server and you dont want that if you're in Europe.
Not everyone likes a tactical team based FPS where its not only spray and pray.
Advertise the game,cod fans and the like will problebly stay far of Brink.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:51 pm

Steam's treasure hunt requires people to download and watch one of Brink's trailers...when 100 free games are the drawings reward, you know a significant number of people are going to be watching that trailer.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:23 am

On the other hand the game needs a big playerbase.
Dont want it to go the same way like ETQW.
Great game but huge lack of players, after one year I had to connect to an USA server and you dont want that if you're in Europe.
Not everyone likes a tactical team based FPS where its not only spray and pray.
Advertise the game,cod fans and the like will problebly stay far of Brink.

Well, the problem with getting a large player base with objective-based games is that there tends to be a pretty steep learning curve in order to really get into the multiplayer. The dynamic objective wheel will help players know what to do even if they are new to the game, and the well made AI will allow players to get used to the levels on their own if they don't like having to learn against real people. So Brink should be a lot more approachable than the average objective-based FPS, which should mean a larger player base right off the bat.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:10 am

My concern is that the game won't get good reviews as a direct result of not getting hyped attention before it's release. Can any of you name a highly anticipated game that received mediocre reviews? That's probably because there are none. Not saying Brink should get five stars off the bat, but it should get a good shot at a fair review. I just remember hanging around the Shadowrun forums before the game's release and all the buzz the game had built up...but it was mostly just around the Shadowrun forum.. Gamespy had done a preview a couple of months before the game's release, and that was about it. Once the game was released, its was (in my opinion) overly criticized and not given it's proper respects in blending in RPG elements into a fast-paced FPS, which it did so well.

Though, a good difference to note in Bethseda's and Splash Damage's marketing is that they're creating avenues for game to receive exposure through the dev diaries and game expos. If i recall correctly, Fasa or Microsoft did little to get the word out on their game.

Around this time of the year the gaming media tends to focus on what's coming out this holiday season since it's what is in the imminent future, and will also garner the most click. In my opinion it wouldn't be wise to start hyping a game until everyone calms down and we're not getting major releases every week.

My concern is that the game won't get good reviews as a direct result of not getting hyped attention before it's release. Can any of you name a highly anticipated game that received mediocre reviews?

Games with a lot of buzz and good reviews because they generally are good games. Publishers would rather back a good game (or an established franchise that will sell) over something they know isn't that great, and journalists will back good games regardless of what the advertisers want. Advertising doesn't affect the scores. The potential scores affect the advertising.

Shadowrun didn't do so well since it was lacking content. Normal people couldn't see past the 60$ price point of a game with no single player and no player options.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:01 pm

Steam's treasure hunt requires people to download and watch one of Brink's trailers...when 100 free games are the drawings reward, you know a significant number of people are going to be watching that trailer.

Wut? That's an interesting approach to advertise a game, acually.

EDIT: I guess not so many people will actually watch the BRINK trailer, as it has to be one of six games. And as one of them is WH: Space Marine, a lot of people will probably just take that one (if they haven't already).
EDIT Edit: Or Homefront. Or Deus Ex: HR. Or Portal. In fact BRINK is prolly one of the games with the smallest community and press amongst the allowed ones.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:13 am

I feel like this could possibly be another Just Cause 2, in that it is a wonderful game, but lacks the attention it truly deserves.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:58 pm

Wut? That's an interesting approach to advertise a game, acually.

EDIT: I guess not so many people will actually watch the BRINK trailer, as it has to be one of six games. And as one of them is WH: Space Marine, a lot of people will probably just take that one (if they haven't already).
EDIT Edit: Or Homefront. Or Deus Ex: HR. Or Portal. In fact BRINK is prolly one of the games with the smallest community and press amongst the allowed ones.

They are all very good looking games though you have to admit, also Brink has got a some advertising going already if you know where to look. Bought any bethesda games recently?

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:50 pm

I think Brink will spred well by word of mouth but i don't want it to end up like MW2 and Black ops with their ads on every website before every video making people just want to burn the game. I also would like to keep out the "rabble" at least or a short amount of time.

on another note:

But seriously though im sure it should do fine. I've survived the loss of APB, and im sure we can make it through this.

Don't worry APB is set to comeback in June...and it's apparently going to be free :/

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:03 pm

It definetly has some buzz around. Too bad it's mostly "Oh, that Mirror's Edge game".
Anyway, before the release I hope that it will skyrocket. They should definetly just make tons and tons of trailers and videos for it before release like say Mass Effect 2.

But not TOO MUCH buzz. Eventually, like Black Ops, all that buzz goes to improve the BAD quality of the game. Thankfully SplashDamage won't over-exaggerate and have Microsoft get every single timeslot for commercials.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:51 pm

But not TOO MUCH buzz. Eventually, like Black Ops, all that buzz goes to improve the BAD quality of the game. Thankfully SplashDamage won't over-exaggerate and have Microsoft get every single timeslot for commercials.

Yeah, unlike most games, I haven't heard any reports of SD over-exaggerating features in the game. The people who have played demos always seem to say the same things that SD has been saying in their interviews.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:46 pm

It definetly has some buzz around. Too bad it's mostly "Oh, that Mirror's Edge game".
Anyway, before the release I hope that it will skyrocket. They should definetly just make tons and tons of trailers and videos for it before release like say Mass Effect 2.

+1

It's a shame this game is being seen as a mish mash of other games, when really it's a semi-revoloutionary masterpiece

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:03 pm

+1

It's a shame this game is being seen as a mish mash of other games, when really it's a semi-revoloutionary masterpiece

Only to the uninformed.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:16 am

The lack of publicity doesn't really bother me, means for the first few weeks should be less asshats playing. I'm kinda hoping the game stays as a sleeper hit.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:18 am

The lack of publicity doesn't really bother me, means for the first few weeks should be less asshats playing. I'm kinda hoping the game stays as a sleeper hit.

If the community is anything like this forum then I'd be incredibly happy. I mean all of us are tired of all the other FPS games coming out and we want something fresh, something new. We all have great trust in SD to put out an amazing game. And personally I can't wait to play BRINK with some of you guys and gals (I'm gonna be on PC by the way). :foodndrink:

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:43 pm

Keep it underground less asshats that way.

Less publicity = Less people buying game = Less money for Splash Damage to continue supporting Brink.

I want my DLC and patches, thanks, keeping a game "exclusive" is a horrible choice from a buisness standpoint. Granted, I'm predicting Brink is going to be the next Shadowrun in terms of publicity vs quality, but I'm hoping Bethesda at least tries to advertise Brink, or for that matter is given a cover story in a game magazine within the next couple of months.

» Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:46 pm

Bethesda and Splash damage are two names with a lot of pull. SD is pretty well known in the hardcoe FPS community, where similar to CS it still has a competitive community. And then there is Beth, who are well known for quality games, famous for their RPGs. So sales shouldnt be too much of a problem.

But at the same time, neither company has ever made a mindless point and shoot game, so they shouldn't have any draw with the players who are looking for that. So I don't worry too much about being invaded by mindless hordes of pub stars.