All of you saying that Crytek is a very bad bad company because they aren't spoiling the whole game to us should really get back to the ground they were standing on. They should've just through out the game, without it even was announced, and no one would complain about it. The last new info/media was realeased... a moth ago. 1 month = 4 weeks = 28 days. 28 days since there was info of the game.

Why, I'm asking you, WHY should they EVER release new infos of the game every month or even every day? They're not. And that's good. Why? Let me give you an example:

Mods. Infos of them ARE released every week/month until the mod isn't a mod anymore, but an additional level for the basic game. The only mod, that does well, is Black Mesa: Source. They keep silent. Even about the release date. The last information was given in late 2009, and yet it's still active. Suspense is the matching word. That's what I and other Black Mesa fans are feeling. They can't wait anymore. FOR THE GAME, and not for information.

I'd rather be kept in dark until the release, than getting the whole game spoilered in no time. I see multiple posts with the content: "Other companies are better because the release more informations". That... is the worst and untrue sentence I've ever heard. We're loving the compynies for the games they make and not for the informations of it. Another Example. What would you prefere? Crysis 2 WITHOUT informations? Or Polly Pocket WITH A LOT of information? Your choice. But if you choose the 2nd, I'd really worry when I were you.

Just. Be. Patient. We can't say it enough. And when I speak of we, I mean myself and the other people, who are patient, like Black_Angel 6.66. We're all waiting for Crysis 2 to come out, but too much information are already given, and waiting is a normal process when a game is about to come out. 2 months volks. 70 days to be exact.

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JustNameless

(Oh, yeah! Be patient!)

New info isn't spoilers, but some little spoilers is better than nothing.

Most people want to see how good is game before they will but it.

What I'm concerned with is lack of footage of the game maxed out in DirectX 11 mode.

You may be a right in some ways. i'd like to see the 3D effect on an xbox with a normal TV (as a proof that it runs everywhere. Buying for PC.), yeah. But they've released so much in total, that any new information would ruin the "OMG OMG OMG OMG" - expression when you first start the game. With more informations most of the people say: "Meh. Already known. Already seen." We know 3 Levels. That's enough if you ask me.

I fully trust Crytek when it comes to Crysis 2. I've been a big fan of them since I first played the Farcry MP Beta back in 2003/4 and I've never been disappointed by one of their products.

As far as I'm concerned they could stop releasing media of all kinds at this point and I would still be there, day 1, ready to buy.

New info isn't spoilers, but some little spoilers is better than nothing.

Most people want to see how good is game before they will but it.

When it comes near the release date, we will expect to hear more about it.

The whole point of releasing information is to keep people hooked to what you're doing. If you can't do that without giving away a significant part of your game, you're doing it wrong. It's that simple.

There's a lot you can do, without giving away vital information about your game. Community interaction being one of them. Having developers drop in, say something from time to time is good. What's even better is videos like C2TV Episode 1. That didn't give away much about the game at all, while keeping people interested.

That's the sort of stuff that will shed good light on a developer's community management.

C2TV Ep 4 is "in the works", as they say. That's basically the equivalent of saying "we'll do it when we feel like it, if at all." That's bad community management. That's the sort of stuff that makes people feel uninterested and annoyed by a company's behavior.

I'm not blaming this on Tom or Adam, this sort of stuff is well out of their reach. However, it's not like they can't do anything at all about it.

Basically, if by giving away information means spoiling the storyline for a game, you're doing it wrong. And what about multi-player? We haven't had a walk-through of the UK offices, for example. Do it. It's not that difficult, I could do it myself, if you gave me the tools.


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Iceman

The whole point of releasing information is to keep people hooked to what you're doing. If you can't do that without giving away a significant part of your game, you're doing it wrong. It's that simple.

There's a lot you can do, without giving away vital information about your game. Community interaction being one of them. Having developers drop in, say something from time to time is good. What's even better is videos like C2TV Episode 1. That didn't give away much about the game at all, while keeping people interested.

That's the sort of stuff that will shed good light on a developer's community management.

C2TV Ep 4 is "in the works", as they say. That's basically the equivalent of saying "we'll do it when we feel like it, if at all." That's bad community management. That's the sort of stuff that makes people feel uninterested and annoyed by a company's behavior.

I'm not blaming this on Tom or Adam, this sort of stuff is well out of their reach. However, it's not like they can't do anything at all about it.

Basically, if by giving away information means spoiling the storyline for a game, you're doing it wrong. And what about multi-player? We haven't had a walk-through of the UK offices, for example. Do it. It's not that difficult, I could do it myself, if you gave me the tools.


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Iceman
You're right. You really are. But what I intended was to say people that there are 70 days to go. And in 70 days, a lot can happen. There already were gaping information holes between any informations. But in every little new footage, we see improvements (I'm really not talking about the C2TV) and new stuff. I'm already sure that we'll see the next TV episode (wich (hopefully) isn't a recap) or a Demo. But, I can't know everything. Only Cevat knows what he wants to do. O_o

At this point in time, all I would want to see would be a segment of uncut PS3 or PC gameplay, nothing too revealing, but just some eye candy for the time being. The storyline should be kept a secret, but maybe some more dev diaries would be cool

this is cryteks stradgey: give you little unimportant eyecatching tidbits, and keep you waiting for that next "super awesome" trailer/gameplay to come through, until the month or so before release whe they bust open the doors on all the really cool ****. what bugs me is that people seem to think they know that the game is gonna totally svck before they see all the really awesome stuff that crytek has cooked up. be patient and give it time, and crysis 2 will be fun

I have been waiting for Crysis 2 for so long that it almost seems unreal that it is being released in little over two months...been waiting since the cliffhanger ending of Crysis 1, and so have many others.

I am glad that Crytek is holding back information. Trust me when I say that you do not want to know too much about the game before it is released. Those dev diaries like the C2TV Episode 1/Life Level Designer (recent), are perfect for keeping fans interested in the game without actually giving away too much information. Behind the scenes stuff can really help the fans get a personal feel for the company, the feeling that the company cares about its fans, and yet too much information about the game is not released.

Crysis 1 had too much shown of the gameplay, and it gave the game a feeling that you already played through it, even though you just bought it... I think I will be okay with a launch trailer a week or two from release, demo/beta information, and hopefully another dev diary or some PS3/PC maxed footage... I like the dev diaries, I think that they are pretty cool.
A 5 minute video showing a level designer find and fix a bug within the level, or something similar to that, shows barely any information while keeping the fans patient for when the game is released.

That's basically the equivalent of saying "we'll do it when we feel like it, if at all."

However, it's not like they can't do anything at all about it.
Everyone at Crytek does what they can. Sometimes this means that person #1 is doing job 'X' instead of job 'Y', which means that the task person #2 is trying to accomplish can't be done right now. Please believe the obvious truth in that if we could have episode 4 out today, we would. If you wish to continue discussion directly on C2TV, i'd appreciate if it could be posted here.

We haven't had a walk-through of the UK offices, for example. Do it. It's not that difficult, I could do it myself, if you gave me the tools.
We just released the first dev diary. The dev diaries are much easier to put together, sure but we can't release one every second day. Before you comment on the date, that's when the article page (template) was created, not when the article itself was created.

We appreciate knowing what you guys want to see most and we try our hardest to get that to you. It's also interesting to see that many people are happy with the level of information being shared; some people want to be surprised whilst others can't get enough. The only thing i can suggest you could do right this very second is to scour google for Crysis 2 previews because there really are TONNES of them. I get over 13 million results for "Crysis 2 preview".

Hey Adam, i am reasonably happy with the info level we have atm, and so are most i think, but dont quote me on that.

The thing that i dislike is the fact we dont have anything really revealed to us, like the specs for the game, will it have dx11, why was the beta just for xbox, what platform is Be The Weapon from, all that sorta stuff.

People complain about there being only xbox footage, which isnt completely true, but it IS true that xbox seems to be the only stuff being shown officially. Us PS3 and PC owners feel slightly miffed that all the central station/multiplayer stuff is on xbox. could we perhaps get some comparison screenshots between the platforms, even if it IS a screenshot we have already seen.

Its just a few small things like that which would help us greatly.
please dont get the impression i am nagging, but as you said:

We appreciate knowing what you guys want to see most and we try our hardest to get that to you.

just confirm a few small things for us, and that would make all the difference

Iou260

What we really want to see is some PC gameplay.

That's basically the equivalent of saying "we'll do it when we feel like it, if at all."

However, it's not like they can't do anything at all about it.
Everyone at Crytek does what they can. Sometimes this means that person #1 is doing job 'X' instead of job 'Y', which means that the task person #2 is trying to accomplish can't be done right now. Please believe the obvious truth in that if we could have episode 4 out today, we would. If you wish to continue discussion directly on C2TV, i'd appreciate if it could be posted here.

We haven't had a walk-through of the UK offices, for example. Do it. It's not that difficult, I could do it myself, if you gave me the tools.
We just released the first dev diary. The dev diaries are much easier to put together, sure but we can't release one every second day. Before you comment on the date, that's when the article page (template) was created, not when the article itself was created.

We appreciate knowing what you guys want to see most and we try our hardest to get that to you. It's also interesting to see that many people are happy with the level of information being shared; some people want to be surprised whilst others can't get enough. The only thing i can suggest you could do right this very second is to scour google for Crysis 2 previews because there really are TONNES of them. I get over 13 million results for "Crysis 2 preview".

So you're saying that Crytek is an unorganized company? So you're also saying that there is absolutely no room for improvement whatsoever at all? You're saying it's completely fine that these "monthly" C2TV episodes can become "almost monthly" and then not appear at all?

Is that what you're trying to say? Is it? Didn't think so. I'm sure you can make your conclusions from that and thus, my feelings for what's going on. As you've probably seen already, I'm not alone with those feelings.

Alright, my bad about the diary. I assumed this was old content you put together in October. I apologize for that. But that doesn't mean that you should ignore that suggestion there. We saw what the guys are doing in Frankfurt, now it's time we see what the UK guys are up to. Am I right or what? Is there a problem with that? Why did you avoid replying to that advice entirely? But yes, these diaries are good, from both stand points. Doing them 2 or 3 times a week or so would be pretty nice, if that's the sort of frequency you were referring to.

And as for your suggestion to read some previews... Well, I have done that. Most of us have. And frankly, none of them offer anything particularly new, or well, exciting for that matter. Most of them just try really, really, really hard to spoil the story for you. I mean, they do it with this passion, to ruin the experience for their readers as much as they possibly can.

In conclusion, I would indeed like to join the "show us PC game-play/specs" camp as well. It has been asked over and over and over again. It's really quite staggering to see a company ignore their community in this manner. Bloody hell man, system specs aren't going to change 2 months before release (not that they matter that much to myself personally). Also, what's the issue with not showing PC game-play and saying "right guys, this is PC game-play, it's brilliant"? Why? It's ridiculous. Obviously most of Crytek's current fan base is made up of PC gamers. They want to see this. They need it. Why not show it? It almost feels like they're ashamed to show it.

Would be nice if this non-sense regarding C2TV episodes would stop, as well.


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Iceman

Why not show it? It almost feels like they're ashamed to show it.


Which brings the obvious question. Does it even exist?

So you're saying that Crytek is an unorganized company? So you're also saying that there is absolutely no room for improvement whatsoever at all? Not at all. I'm saying Crytek is very busy making Crysis 2. Unfortunately, limited time and resources means that C2TV episodes are taking longer to develop.

But that doesn't mean that you should ignore that suggestion there. We're not ignoring anything, in fact, i specifically stated that knowing what you guys want most helps us. I quite like your suggestion about getting a dev diary from Crytek UK but i was merely responding to the emphasis you were placing on the urgency of these articles.

Is that what you're trying to say? Is it? Didn't think so. Lastly, please don't post antagonistically like this. It doesn't contribute to the conversation.

Cry-Adam, could you show the slightest glimmer that you read my post....

I may not reply to every post but know that i read every post I respond to what i can.

Glad to know its noted

I may not reply to every post but know that i read every post I respond to what i can.

If you could answer one last question for me... Why do you despise the upper-case "I" (as in, referring to yourself) so much?

I may not reply to every post but know that i read every post I respond to what i can.

If you could answer one last question for me... Why do you despise the upper-case "I" (as in, referring to yourself) so much?

Well you see, Crytek's resources are highly limited...

The level of information is just alright, and shouldn't be pushed more. When Crytek is busy with Crysis 2, stop yelling at them to make more dev diaries, C2TV episodes a.s.o, because when they loose time because some of you are just too selfish with their behaviour, Crysis 2 might be delayed again, or be released with tons of bugs. And obviously some of you want exactly that. That's what I also said in the demo thread: "When they have the time, ressources and the will to make it." Those things will come to the right time, but the time isn't now at this moment. Just wait. Or play Crysis while waiting.

I think what were getting has pretty much been shown. 6 vs 6 gameplay. No vehicles. Its a total, small XBox game. The only reason I would buy it is for the engine and sandbox.

The level of information is just alright, and shouldn't be pushed more. When Crytek is busy with Crysis 2, stop yelling at them to make more dev diaries, C2TV episodes a.s.o, because when they loose time because some of you are just too selfish with their behaviour, Crysis 2 might be delayed again, or be released with tons of bugs. And obviously some of you want exactly that. That's what I also said in the demo thread: "When they have the time, ressources and the will to make it." Those things will come to the right time, but the time isn't now at this moment. Just wait. Or play Crysis while waiting.

I agree with your insight in this. The timing is still too raw for more info, speculations will do for now.