Lack into lore

Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:03 pm

There were some issues in the earlier games that were considered by some players (including me) flaws or simply minor details that were a bit bugging. For example there were no kids, birds, house pets in Cyrodiil. Now that's actually just fine with me, the developers need to concentrate on what's essential. M'Aiq the Liar was a rather funny feature in the game that explained these small inconsistencies in the game. But the thing that bugged me the most was that in some cases the developers decided to explain the lack of some features by implementing the lack into the lore. For example, the fact that there were no mixed-race individuals was explained through the notion that the "child" always inherits the mothers race. And the transformation of Khajit feet between Morrowind and Oblivion was explained through the difference of khajit sub-races. I wasn't really bothered by the feet, but I'm much more bothered by lazy and clumsy explanations that tend to ruin an otherwise well designed and immersive gameworld.

But enough with the blabbering. The point of this topic was to challenge TES fans to create further explanations for some oddities in the realm of Mundus. The point of this thread is not to complain of course. On the contrary, the aim is to help Bethesda expand the lore so that every little flaw in the content is explained lorewise. Here are some questions to begin with:

Why can't there be found any beards in Cyrodiil at the end of the Third Era? Is the superstitious fear of Sheogorath so strong among Imperials?
Where are the children? Eaten by giant rats? The few fled to Hammerfell for some reason?
What happened to the ill-voiced Dunmer? A revolutionary cough-medicine created by Sinderion?
Why can't one fight horseback? Is mounted combat forbidden by the threat of capital punishment?

As you can see, I'm not so good at this, so I'll toss the ball to the next contestant.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:17 pm

Why can't there be found any beards in Cyrodiil at the end of the Third Era? Is the superstitious fear of Sheogorath so strong among Imperials? This I don't know.

Where are the children? Eaten by giant rats? The few fled to Hammerfell for some reason? You can kill things in ES, which is no big deal on it's own, but killing kids isn't good for Bethesda's image, which they care about.

What happened to the ill-voiced Dunmer? A revolutionary cough-medicine created by Sinderion? The Dunmer in Cyrodiil (and in every other province) didn't grow up breathing ash for thousands of years.

Why can't one fight horseback? Is mounted combat forbidden by the threat of capital punishment? Oh brother...
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:03 pm

Why can't there be found any beards in Cyrodiil at the end of the Third Era? Is the superstitious fear of Sheogorath so strong among Imperials?


Shaving was in fashion? Girls didn't dig the beards anymore like they did in Morrowind?

Where are the children? Eaten by giant rats? The few fled to Hammerfell for some reason?


Maybe there aren't any children on Nirn? Maybe people just pop out of Oblivion when they are old enough?

What happened to the ill-voiced Dunmer? A revolutionary cough-medicine created by Sinderion?


After the ash storms stopped, the Dunmers' respiration started clearing up. You have me to thank for that ^_^

Why can't one fight horseback? Is mounted combat forbidden by the threat of capital punishment?


Its culturally frowned upon? Or maybe nobody thought of it? They just thought horses were for transportation not combat.
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Post » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:50 am

Probably for the same reasons everybody in Vvardenfell just stood around all day, never sleeping, closing their shops, or eating.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:45 pm

Probably for the same reasons everybody in Vvardenfell just stood around all day, never sleeping, closing their shops, or eating.


Love? :hugs:
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:18 pm

Maybe there aren't any children on Nirn? Maybe people just pop out of Oblivion when they are old enough?

And thusly was Oblivion relegated to a giant metaphysical female genitalia.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:59 pm

why do enemies level with you?

why can nobody be completely bald?
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:35 pm

And thusly was Oblivion relegated to a giant metaphysical female genitalia.


Best. Euphemism. EVAR! Jaws of Oblivion indeed. :rofl:
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:16 pm

why do enemies level with you?

They've gotta EAT LIGHTNING, and they've gotta CRAP THUNDER!
why can nobody be completely bald?

Imperial mandate. Antonious Balerus, commander of the entire 16th regiment of the Imperial Legion, died while on horseback one day. Officials say he was blinded by bald, naked nord and fell off of a cliff. Whether it was the nudity of the baldness that caused it, no one can say, but that also explains why you can't take your underwear off.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:10 pm

Maybe you should just use some mods? Easier to make it happen than try to explain why it ain't there.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:25 pm

Maybe you should just use some mods? Easier to make it happen than try to explain why it ain't there.


1. Mods aren't explanations.

2. Perhaps viltuska doesn't have a computer.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:31 pm

1. Mods aren't explanations.

2. Perhaps viltuska doesn't have a computer.

Actually I do have a computer and I think mods are great way to fill in the patches (if you consider them as such) in the game design. Therefore I think it's kind of a bummer that in some cases the developers tried to make an excuse for these little misgivings and thus forcing the lore-loyal modders not to add complementary content into the game.

Why are Divine Intervention spells missing in Cyrodiil? Immediately after the Emperor's murder Ocato got paranoid that he might be the next target, thus he declared that all such spells giving assassins an easy escape should be banned and their existing scrolls be burned.

Why aren't there domestic cats in Cyrodiil? Since the abolishment of slavery, owning any cats has been regarded as Khajit-slavery, since all felines are actually Khajit subraces.
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Post » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:55 am

Thanks for the new signature guys. :goodjob:
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:08 pm

Maybe there aren't any children on Nirn? Maybe people just pop out of Oblivion when they are old enough?


"...And gave people the impression that there were no Dwarf women, and little Dwarves just popped out of the ground!"

-LOTR 2 Towers

What happened to the ill-voiced Dunmer? A revolutionary cough-medicine created by Sinderion?


Smoking is banned in the rest of the Empire. However Camel HQ is located in Balmora, and only serves Dunmer.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:19 pm

And thusly was Oblivion relegated to a giant metaphysical female genitalia.

You, my good sir, are the funniest bastard I've ever seen or heard about.
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And thusly was Oblivion relegated to a giant metaphysical female genitalia.


Is gynecologist a new class now?
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:24 pm

And thusly was Oblivion relegated to a giant metaphysical female genitalia.


"....i just kept going in and out of that Oblivion Gate, it just felt....right."
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:57 pm

"....i just kept going in and out of that Oblivion Gate, it just felt....right."

So that's what that huge siege engine at the battle of Bruma was for. Those naughty daedra!
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Post » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:22 am

Wow. I can't come up with something to beat that. I don't even know how to respond to that. Just . . . wow
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:47 pm

And thusly was Oblivion relegated to a giant metaphysical female genitalia.


Is gynecologist a new class now?

Wouldn't this make conjurors gynecologists?
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:21 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:OB_White_Gold_Tower_%28Base%29.jpg

........

I already see Oblivion/Mordor slash-fics.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:54 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:OB_White_Gold_Tower_%28Base%29.jpg

........

I already see Oblivion/Mordor slash-fics.


Are you thinking that the white tower looks slightly phallic? Normal people i imagine would suppress those associations :whistle:

No-one mentioned the lack of levitation. In the mournhold expansion for MW they at least put a slightly tongue in cheek explanation for the lost ability.
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Post » Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:14 am

So that's what that huge siege engine at the battle of Bruma was for. Those naughty daedra!


Ha! First time I ever heard of anyone thinkin that thing was... a thing. I can see the script now..

Siege mover commander: Let's go! we've waited a thousand years for this moment you minions! Get a move on!
*engine gets through the gate*
Siege mover commander:Right on! Oh wait... MEN! MOVE IT.. BACK! Cmon lets go.. no time for discussion!
*engine crawls backwards*
Siege mover commander: Okay minions, push er through again! Now hold it!
People at the other end of the gate: Should we attack it?
Someone replies: No, no.. let's just see how long this lasts...

and so on...
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Post » Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:09 am

Ha! First time I ever heard of anyone thinkin that thing was... a thing. I can see the script now..

Siege mover commander: Let's go! we've waited a thousand years for this moment you minions! Get a move on!
*engine gets through the gate*
Siege mover commander:Right on! Oh wait... MEN! MOVE IT.. BACK! Cmon lets go.. no time for discussion!
*engine crawls backwards*
Siege mover commander: Okay minions, push er through again! Now hold it!
People at the other end of the gate: Should we attack it?
Someone replies: No, no.. let's just see how long this lasts...

and so on...


...Seige engine moves faster and the sigil stone releases bursts of energy before moving slower and slower...

Just throwing in my 2 cents :whistle:
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Post » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:27 am

So that's what that huge siege engine at the battle of Bruma was for. Those naughty daedra!

I see they like the big machinery.
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