Well its the first time Ive used it you punt a disarmed weapon at someone, resulting in a dead body....theirs not mine



Maybe the Yakuda are similar to the greybeards and do not wish to share their knowledge with tamriel.

whoa wait a minut there buddy, where the heck did the black hole magic come from?



yakuda is teh redguard's traditinal home, that was sunk below the sea, ages ago bliviongate: of course redguards (and some shamans) made it to tamriel, and a lot turned to merc work, but the shamans could sell magical knowledge of their forms of magic

Necromancy svcks in this game now, the only good necrospell is dead thrall... and it's glitched to all hell! all other necro spells svck compaired to atros, you can't even perma raise a draugr, who sat at the table when they were throwing out ideads and said " ya but thrall should not effect draugr even though all the other zombie spells did." :confused: plus all necromacy spells are the same all they do is raise the level of the host that can be raised BIG DEAL.

I enact Video Game restrictions law. This law states that any and all video game ideas are null and void if the engine cannot handle it or if it is impossible to fabricate by developers.

-Tsunami power: Impossible, wold clip against walls in dungeons and would require all touched objects have a water overlay which would murder performance.

-Cat 5 Hurricane: Impossible, Would trees in radius to dynamically shake at once, all physics objects in radius to move, and all actors in radius to become ragdolls with physics. Not happening with current engine.

-Mag 10 Earthquake: Impossible, would need fissures in the ground and everything stated above in addition to realistic effects to houses or players will lose immersion. Again, not happening.

-Black hole: Possible but depends on size but due to an overpowered nature this is out too.

I am kicking butt with magic

I concentrated on restoration and destruction, dragons die after a few fireballs or thunderbolts. I feel magic is unbalanced in my favor.
I'm killing NPCs before they get near enough to touch me. Mages with ward are the only ones who put up a fight.

I definately wish there were more spells to play with, morrowind let you buy any spell whether you were competent to cast it or not now I have to wait until my level is right, it's a lot of babying.
But my game proves most of what you say wrong cause I'm needing to crank up the difficulty as it is.

Forgive me, my lore is patchy at best and I know little of the Redguards. However I still stand by them not wanting to share knowledge if the have it..

About the spells went into shouts thing:

1. This is another reason why playing mages is underwhelming vs melee/archer
2. Long cooldowns limit the usefulness of shouts in combat, although the utility is nice sometimes
3. There are 2 shouts helping the physical damage guys only

So while I welcome the shouts as a somewhat original idea, it's no excuse for the lack of spells. So many things coulda been done with a little bit of creativity...

Water would be pretty hazardous in Skyrims environment, all in all. Then again, the game lets you swim through an ice pack with no ill effects, frost resist or not.

I was kind of miffed that dual casting was hyped, and then just came out as "HIGHER NUMBERS KTHX" for whichever spell.
I'd prefer something like
Flames + Flames = Cone/arc of flames instead of a straight line
Ice+Flesh Spell = Ice flesh (Frost Resist or whatnot)
Lightning+Sword = Lightning Sword
Fear+Candlelight = Spectral Form (like the potions on that one quest) that makes foes flee
Ward+Summon = Summon Spell Attractor (some sort of decoy or creature that absorbs magic fire and draws it away from you).

I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss a non-elemental destruction spell too, even with the usual case of being somewhat weaker then its more resisted elemental counterparts.

Try expert and master, get oneshot a couple of times, realise your armor and health being so low is not much fun and come back to share your thoughts then.

i think redguard hedge mages should use it, and it is learnable only by mastering magic and searching out a redguard shaman who would be willing to guide you (for money, of course), but i dont think a new magic system should just become populer with every mage as suddenly as one game/expansion/ect (although something has got to be done about bethesda's trend of making magic worse and worse, a new magic system might spark their imaginations)

of course it could also be akaviri in nature, in which case, i demand it be introduced and learnable by the blades if you do their little job after you get the scroll, they claim to be akavir so i demand some proof (rare akavir magic is the onlythign i will accept!!)

Yeah, it's amazing. Instead of summoning a minion to do your bidding (Atronach), you have to wait until you kill something to get a usually weaker version of an Atronach that takes an enternity to both summon and enter the fray. It spends more time raising and shuffling to catch up to you than actually doing anything in a fight.

Yeah, it's really tactical.

If you're not having fun playing on expert why... never mind. Enjoy being unsatisfied!

These are good ideas and probably can be done with the CS in the future.

Even though having earth, wind, water and dark/shadow element would remind me of other rpgs mainly the FFs, I might have a go at implementing some of them....might be extremely difficult as im not a modeler or any good at textures, adding it into the game I'll have no problem.

Already dreamt up an idea for some non-elemental non-aggressive spells.

I love summoning a flaming suicide wolf

I don't play mages on expert/master (and not just because of this but because of the lack of scaling too). You wouldn't guess that, would you? I've had a blast with an archer though, thanks.
Enjoy being clueless.

That does no damage.

shadow is not a TES element :tongue: well the alyieds might ave had some form of starlight magic (their wells were powered by it and their stones, a theory i found in a book in oblivion) which means they could have found other forms of magic that mages today have lost (maybe they had levitation :tongue: ), could make for some good mod material imo :happy:

Yeah and it would have been cool if I had found it at level 10 or something. Finding it in the 40's it is just a waste, even if the visual is cool.

well I only thought of dark/shadow because of all the Black hole talk lol. Plus healing is light magic (least how I see it) and I was thinking of adding some sort of Holy spell (purely because playing FF7/8/9/10 recently and this thread has spurred me on a nostalgia trip)

you could mod it so healing spells (cast on target,would be awsome in the mod!) hurts undead (you know, cause revive kills undead :teehee: )

Earth could be related to mass and gravity, which black hole have alot of...

They need soul magic. Like you use souls from soul gems or something...

I miss the reflect and shield spells the most, not for casting as much as for enchanting.

Most of those excessive destruction spells would hurt less if they hurt the caster along with hurting me. I have the most trouble with the upper level casters and my insignificant health totals. It seems it doesn't take long before your ability to absorb damage is out paced buy the enemy's ability to dish it out.

Shield spells would let me use regular clothing instead of having to wear armor. It's kind of hard to level an armor skill when you spend all of your time avoiding taking hits. Especially when it's one and done against a bandit leader or chief.

The limited pool of spells is disappointing. Seems a game that is touted as one where you can do what you want, is severely limited in what you can actually do.

The next TES game there will be one spell for damage, one for defence and one for healing. Having too many spells is just far too confusing

Yeah it's all in shouts now

Daniels