Large Address Aware Enabler from FO3 : IV

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:16 pm

Does the Large Adress Aware Enabler work when used on Oblivion or is there anything similiar to it?

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6510

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:05 pm

LAA is supposed to work fine with Oblivion. Oblivion does not benefit from it as often as Fallout 3 does, but it can benefit. I don't know about any particular enabler. As usual, it's not a particularly good idea if you're not on a 64 bit OS.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:29 pm

Thanks for your quick reply!

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:28 pm

Doesn't work with OBSE apparently.
Any suggestions to fix this? (Can this be fixed?)

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:50 pm

I think the OBSE team would have to make changes to the loader.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:02 am

OBSE has no problems with LAA. Maybe your LAA enabler has other side effects?

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:37 pm

I am using the one in the opening post. Whenever I try to run the obse_loader it tells me that my version is not supported.

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:42 pm

OBSE version checking ignores the LAA flag. Or that's what I was just told by an OBSE dev a few minutes ago. Perhaps your LAA flag enabler is also applying a nocd crack or something? Perhaps you are using an old version of OBSE?

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:06 pm

OBSE version checking ignores the LAA flag. Or that's what I was just told by an OBSE dev a few minutes ago. Perhaps your LAA flag enabler is also applying a nocd crack or something? Perhaps you are using an old version of OBSE?

No, I use a no-cd crack (just to bypass the cd check - the game is legally bought). I tried the increased memory hack too, and OBSE wouldn't load. It loads fine with a no-cd crack.

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:37 pm

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

That one works with OBSE. There will be a note in the OBSE_loader.log file that it is ignoring the LAA patch and then it will pass the check.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:41 pm

I'm using v0018 beta 4 and http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6510.
It's the only LAA enabler I know, and I dunno if it also applies a nocd crack, but I doubt it.

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:22 pm

OBSE 17b and later work with the LAA flag.

NoCD may or may not be your problem. I personally use daemon tools for my no-cd needs, it emulates a dvd drive rather than modifying the executables.

Any hex editor can be used to enable LAA manually. Or you can google LAA enablers.

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:08 pm

The enabler provided by showler worked. Thanks for your help.

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:43 pm

OBSE 17b and later work with the LAA flag.

NoCD may or may not be your problem. I personally use daemon tools for my no-cd needs, it emulates a dvd drive rather than modifying the executables.

Any hex editor can be used to enable LAA manually. Or you can google LAA enablers.

It doesn't work with all LAA's.

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:38 am

It works with LAA enablers that don't do anything other than set the LAA flag.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:51 pm

It works with LAA enablers that don't do anything other than set the LAA flag.

Oh ok. Well the LAA enabler downloadable from TESNexus doesn't work with OBSE.

EDIT:

Or maybe it does. The LAA found a couple posts up didn't work for me. Must be because I use a no-cd crack too.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:23 am

You guys keep mentioning that certain topic and this thread is probably going to be closed.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:11 pm

This works for me using Windows7 Pro 64bit. I run game with disc.

Is it really true Oblivion will only address 2gb of ram without this?

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:23 am

You guys keep mentioning that certain topic and this thread is probably going to be closed.

It's a legal copy of the game. It really is.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:30 pm

All 32 bit programs without LAA only get 2 GB of address space. LAA is only meaningful if you're on a 64 bit OS or you have the /3GB switch set. The /3GB switch is generally not recommended (it can cause trouble with some drivers or something).

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:37 am

Is it really true Oblivion will only address 2gb of ram without this?

That was pretty standard for 32 bit executables at the time.

32 bit windows can only address 3.5 gb at best and some of that is reserved for Windows itself, so it wasn't a problem.

A couple of things have changed so that being LAA is beneficial to Oblivion now.

It's a legal copy of the game. It really is.

Doesn't matter in terms of discussing the topic. Still prohibited.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:31 pm

That was pretty standard for 32 bit executables at the time.

32 bit windows can only address 3.5 gb at best and some of that is reserved for Windows itself, so it wasn't a problem.

A couple of things have changed so that being LAA is beneficial to Oblivion now.

So is it recommended that I run this if I'm using a 64bit OS?
I guess I'm a bit confused if Oblivion is utilizing the 4gb of ram in my system.
If I am reading things correctly on this topic, Oblivion will only address up to 2gb of ram, and my guess is once the Oblivion.exe process has surpassed this 2gb limit, instability can occur.

I know I have never seen my Oblivion.exe memory usage go beyond 2gb. i think the most I have seen is 1.7gb on a heavily modded game.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:13 pm

quoting myself from the previous page just so that it's here on both page 1 & page 2:

All 32 bit programs without LAA only get 2 GB of address space. LAA is only meaningful if you're on a 64 bit OS or you have the /3GB switch set. The /3GB switch is generally not recommended (it can cause trouble with some drivers or something).

If you run a heavily modded Oblivion on a 64 bit OS with >= 3 GB of RAM, then LAA might help. Maybe. There's a bunch of extra details. If you're Oblivion never tries to use more address space then it doesn't matter. If you're on XP then it won't really help much unless you're using Oblivion Stutter Remover (but then, 64 bit XP is pretty rare IIRC) and adjusting the iHeapSize setting of OSR.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:59 pm

I run 64-bit Windows 7 with 4GB RAM, and I installed the LAA hack. I've never seen Oblivion use more than 1.5 or so GB of RAM, so it probably isn't doing me any good. But, it doesn't seem to have done any harm at all either. My system is stable, so I see no reason to uninstall it. I use OSR, too.

gothemasticator

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:57 pm

quoting myself from the previous page just so that it's here on both page 1 & page 2:

If you run a heavily modded Oblivion on a 64 bit OS with >= 3 GB of RAM, then LAA might help. Maybe. There's a bunch of extra details. If you're Oblivion never tries to use more address space then it doesn't matter. If you're on XP then it won't really help much unless you're using Oblivion Stutter Remover (but then, 64 bit XP is pretty rare IIRC) and adjusting the iHeapSize setting of OSR.

Mmm k. So I tested this out on a work computer that had Windows 7 64bit. Funny thing is, I actually do have Windows Xp 64bit installed at home which runs my Oblivion. Anything I should know that would be beneficial to Win xp 64 using this or Oblivion Stutter Remover?