Lawyer Faction!

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:22 am

We could have a faction where you could work in the court (if we have one) and you can be a lawyer, if you say all the right stuff, the murderer will be jailed, and the innocent dude can be proved innocent.
Or vice versa. It starts off with the defendant basically telling you what happend, then you could read your journal to see what he said again to find hints. If you hear anything from the other side that does not match what your defendant says, you can call them on it! Thats basically it...
User avatar
Luna Lovegood
 
Posts: 3325
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:45 pm

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:17 am

Not a lawyer faction, that sounds awfully dull.

But a faction that has speechcraft/personality as favored skills/attributes would be good.
User avatar
Yvonne
 
Posts: 3577
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:05 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:51 pm

Nice idea. I'd like to see them bring courts back into the TES universe rather than the "STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM" practice of the last two games.
User avatar
rae.x
 
Posts: 3326
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:13 pm

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:42 pm

It's a nice idea, it would be good for a single quest, but a faction? No. I'm fairly certain the Skyrim law does not work that way. It doesn't even work that way in Cyrodiil.
User avatar
StunnaLiike FiiFii
 
Posts: 3373
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:30 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:49 pm

OBJECTION!!!!!?!!
I just wanted to say that.
User avatar
Felix Walde
 
Posts: 3333
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:50 pm

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:11 am

Horrid, horrid idea...gives me flashbacks to NWN-era Bioware, with the predictable "Oh, here's the obligatory quest where you have to be someone's lawyer..." :facepalm:
User avatar
katsomaya Sanchez
 
Posts: 3368
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:03 am

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:07 am

Don't think that this is a bad idea, good for a couple of quests but it would probably get pretty old after a while. I guess this would put that whole "mingle with people in a bar to get info" mechanic.
User avatar
Carlos Vazquez
 
Posts: 3407
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:19 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:36 pm

As a law student. I'd love something... similar.
But I wouldn't want a lawyer faction. It somehow doesn't fit in Skyrim.

Anyway, it was said in Oblivion by one of the members of the Thieves Guild that they bribed the courts (which means that courts are lore-friendly).

I would like courts. And I would like you to be able to defend yourself in court. Would be something great for speechcraft/personality, etc.
This wouldn't be too hard to accomplish. Just lots of dialouge options and possibilites for different crimes :D
User avatar
Rachel Cafferty
 
Posts: 3442
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:48 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:15 pm

As a law student. I'd love something... similar.
But I wouldn't want a lawyer faction. It somehow doesn't fit in Skyrim.

Anyway, it was said in Oblivion by one of the members of the Thieves Guild that they bribed the courts (which means that courts are lore-friendly).
I would like courts. And I would like you to be able to defend yourself in court. Would be something great for speechcraft/personality, etc.
This wouldn't be too hard to accomplish. Just lots of dialouge options and possibilites for different crimes :D

There's definitely an Imperial Court, the main character of Arena was a member of it.

Skyrim having that kind of judicial system just seems...inappropriate.
User avatar
Lady Shocka
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:59 pm

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:05 pm

There's definitely an Imperial Court, the main character of Arena was a member of it.

Skyrim having that kind of judicial system just seems...inappropriate.


To have courts, I don't think it's inappropriate (not fully). I wouldn't want courts to be like our modern courts, but more like... well. A judge, simply. Nothing more, nothing less.

Solving disputes by a neutral, judicial part has existed for thousands of years. Skyrim is civilized too (moderately). Bigger cities could have some kind of court. And the Nords aren't too far off from Imperials in that sense I think...

The only reason it could be inappropriate in Skyrim now, would be because of the civil war. Courts basically seize to function without its support of the system of law.
User avatar
Marta Wolko
 
Posts: 3383
Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:51 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:03 pm

I'd like a diplomat role in one of the factions, where you have to travel between opposed groups and try to settle disputes without blood. Standing around in a court playing L.A Noire with the criminals though, no. :s
User avatar
Chloé
 
Posts: 3351
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:15 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:28 pm

No thanks honestly. Just doesn't seem like fun to me, not in the slightest.
User avatar
Nina Mccormick
 
Posts: 3507
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:38 pm

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:42 am

as a lawyer, i dont want to be reminded of work when i'm playing :tongue:
User avatar
Chris Duncan
 
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:31 am

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:18 am

Lawyers would have fit in Cyrodiil, since it is roman-inspired... But a nordic setting with lawyers? Hell no xD Off with the head and be done with it.
User avatar
Latino HeaT
 
Posts: 3402
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:21 pm

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:59 pm

Merchant faction, yes. Lawyers? No.
User avatar
stevie critchley
 
Posts: 3404
Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:36 pm

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:41 am

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4775489
User avatar
Jerry Jr. Ortiz
 
Posts: 3457
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:39 pm

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:25 am

We could have a faction where you could work in the court (if we have one) and you can be a lawyer, if you say all the right stuff, the murderer will be jailed, and the innocent dude can be proved innocent.
Or vice versa. It starts off with the defendant basically telling you what happend, then you could read your journal to see what he said again to find hints. If you hear anything from the other side that does not match what your defendant says, you can call them on it! Thats basically it...

I thought we were done with hell, from which lawyers spawn, in Oblivion :evil: .
User avatar
Crystal Clear
 
Posts: 3552
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:42 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:29 pm

I dunno about a lawyer faction, but being able to get out of trouble by speechcraft skill would be cool.
User avatar
Neko Jenny
 
Posts: 3409
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:29 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:18 pm

Damn it.. ninja'd by a mile, Mumatil.. Sustained!!!!, contempt of court.

A quest or two, defending someone may be fun.. maybe, not sure about a faction though.
User avatar
Sammygirl
 
Posts: 3378
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:15 pm

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:07 am

A Lawyer?

That would be the scariest creature yet :o
User avatar
Amy Masters
 
Posts: 3277
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:26 am

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:05 pm

Back then the king would judge each crime, in this case its the counts that act as judge
User avatar
Alan Whiston
 
Posts: 3358
Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 4:07 pm

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:50 pm

There should be a guild (The East Empire Company?) for Speechcraft/Mercantile characters, with corporate espionage, trading, law-suits, etc.
User avatar
kevin ball
 
Posts: 3399
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:02 pm

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:17 pm

I voted the middle choice, not because I want a lawyer guild persay but greater use of personality. Maybe even a questline or faction that focuses mainly on speech/mercantile etc because they have real obvious application in a land suffering from political turmoil.
User avatar
Jonathan Egan
 
Posts: 3432
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:27 pm

Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:43 pm

Personally I'd rather be a judge.

example

guy who wants to sue [or a similar lore friendly system]: npc 1
guy who's being sued npc 2
judge [me] judge

npc 1: this man burnt down my tavern

npc 2 he is lying.

Judge: do you have proof

npc 1: yes milord i've got ten people who saw him do this.

judge; do they have proof

npc 1: yes, they saw him.

judge: by proof I emant something That is more believable than a who bunch of drunkards.

npc 1: milord?

judge:'m fining you for ffity thousand coins to the court for wasting my time. You will also give npc 1 thrity thousand coins for wasting his time and another hundred thousand for slander. good day.

________________

Though the ssytem wouldnt be as robust as taht. just a randomly generated charge. A defnse and some evidence. and you decide.

it could also work with bribes and faction rep.
User avatar
john page
 
Posts: 3401
Joined: Thu May 31, 2007 10:52 pm

Post » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:45 am

Great idea! They'd make for excellent pin cushions!

Otherwise,no.
User avatar
Melis Hristina
 
Posts: 3509
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:36 pm

Next

Return to V - Skyrim