Best we not get too far into that...
I don't know what the Holy Crusades were (And I don't want it explained here!) but I'm guessing it has to do about christianity which is a no-no in forum rules.

If you don't help Boone and if the NCR pulls out (From the Independent Endings) he becomes a utter psycopathic assassin...

Vengance is not psychotic not in general anyway, and not against those that are actually responsible for events that led to it.
It's a belief of divinely or personal inspired retribution, to those that afflicted torment.
Against a stranger or group with no link to those events or based on reality at all, and for release of pleasure than it's psychotic.

Yeah, I won't delve into that unless it goes into PM's from him, but anyways..

WELL, technically, they won't make the Mojave peacful by what they do, the Mojave will be brought peace by the laws the Legion enforces.

Unless that's what you meant and I can't read.

I don't know. This sound's pretty psychotic:

Yes you're completely right.
Sorry I really did not see that one, I apoligise.

In my next playthrough I will mercykill Boone..

He's borderlined with rage man.

Legion VS NCR become Boone thread :celebration:

Any how, I decide not to go against Legion because Dogtags are plentyful.

i like the sound of that.
speaking of companions, i hate how you were able to get ncr companions but no legion companions

I really recommend you find out, I'm surprised you don't know about it, it happened in Europe.

I'm not an educated woman. (My school records are... Well awful.)

I didn't say that the NCR was good, no state are absolutely good. I said that CL was much worse than NCR, because I've been seeing people who say that NCR is just as horrible because of the corruption, I used Italy as an example of a country with a corrupt leadership and ineffective bureaucracy. However, the NCR doesn't commit genocide of those that it deems unworthy, I used Pol-Pots Cambodia as an example of that.

I'd give up with reason on this....

There is no changing the minds of fans and their fav's or least liked.
Luckily this is a game and we all can do as we wish, as it has no relevance as to who we are irl.
Otherwise I'd be too scared to leave the house.... Oh wait!

More across Europe and Western Asia but yeah, it is a fairly huge part of history and certainly an interesting one...


I agree with those who think CL and NCR are just as bad as each other, both are trying to find something in the past to cling to, NCR the failed democracies, CL the failed dictatorships, both are essentially corrupt with Caesar allowing his followers to think of him as a god, demonising his lieutenant to use him as a tool, despite his own impending death (which would leave CL without leadership if Lanius wasn't smart) and the NCR just full of power play, pull and the other banes of democracies the world over.

House is the only real progressive (exempting Yes Man because it's a straight wild card, it's either the Courier's tool or it becomes something else entirely) of the lot.

For me there is a big difference in their leaderships. In the NCR there are good people like Colonel Hsu who want to get rid of the corruption. In the Legion they are all like Caesar - enslave the weak, women will be breeding stock, and kill all who oppose.

If the NCR does not stop its corruption it will fall. Hopefully something better will rise from the ashes. As it is, the NCR is better than the CL as it doesn't enslave, or treat women as cattle. That is it.

The Khans are raiders/drug dealers, they are not innocents. If they had been in Arizona, they would have been expunged years ago. I find it amusing when traveling with Boone in Red Rock, when a Khan will say "You know you're traveling with a F@*&!*( murderer?". I would like to answer back "And you're not?". They brought Bittersprings on themself.

Mankind's best chance is under House, not the NCR or CL.

What Khan has killed an innocent civilian?
They've never really been good people but none of them killed a bunch of innocent civilians.

Arizona was a living Hell before the Legion established their power

You have got to be kidding. What part of brutally vicious RAIDERS don't you get?

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Khan

Well, I won't get into details but they are one of the most intresting, and possibly most corrupt war's in the history of man.

I've yet to see them murder a bunch of innocent civilians just cause their leader told them so.


Sounds intriguing, need to read up on it then.

I can imagine 100 years past NV people saying well if it wasnt for CL...

Rome were just as merciless and cruel as CL were. One example would be when Ceaser [IRL] was in gaul he fought a tribe. The tribe sent its leaders in to negotiate peace. Ceaser arrested the leaders of the tribe, and leaderless, the tribe with all its children and women were wiped out. And look how much we owe rome. Building , health , military Rome advanced all these things and more.
And i refuse to believe that everyone in CL is evil, as i always say thats like saying everyone in nazi germany was evil

I think putting everybody named as evil in the Legion was stupid. Obsidian could have at least attempted to conceal their bias towards the Legion by making, I dunno, Lucius neutral.

Edit: All right, I just checked and Lucius actually is neutral. Obsidian are still f'cking biased.

Khans of California arent the Greath Khans anymore

Remember Bittersprings, NCR killed women, child, and elders person, now thats really bad

Does Fallout have Character Aligmnet??