Legion vs NCR? Debate #4

Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:43 pm

Hopefully in the Honest hearts dlc, that is what we will see. I get tired of the people arguing against the legion based only on what we know from war camps however you dress it up, war is never pretty, the difference is thats all we see of the legion.


And the NCR wants to rebuld the American government who went on to invade canada, and start WW3.




NCR's Goal is not to rebuild America just to rebuild. They just use the pre-war government as a template. Pre-War America invaded Canada which started WW3? America Annexed Canada because Canada was getting in the way of the Amrican War effort against China Which invade Alaska. We don't know who started WW3.

NCR is overburdened thats what the Devs were trying to show. I Would also like to see Legion building in a DLC insted of alway burning.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:49 pm

That would most definitely have been mentioned....*sigh*

No, it's obviously implied. Despite the Khans accepting and embracing their new role in the Legion, they actually obviously wanted to die and Ron Pearlman was lying because he too is blindly Pro-Legion. D'uh..
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:28 pm

No, it's obviously implied. Despite the Khans accepting and embracing their new role in the Legion, they actually obviously wanted to die and Ron Pearlman was lying because he too is blindly Pro-Legion. D'uh..

"role" in the legion, nobody has a role in the legion, because that means you are a seperate part of the legion, the Khans are gone, they arent Khans, they are Legionarries.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:08 pm

Yes, the NCR killed kids once, the Legion ALWAYS enslaves kids, women, and kills all who oppose it. NCR killed a village or raiders that had seriousl worn through all mercy, one time.


So, basically you're saying that taking Kids as slaves, giving them homes, food, safety and giving them a sense of beloning is worse than outright killing them?

That make's total sense...

"role" in the legion, nobody has a role in the legion, because that means you are a seperate part of the legion, the Khans are gone, they arent Khans, they are Legionarries.


Are you high?


Everyone in the Legion has a Role.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:41 pm

So, basically you're saying that taking Kids as slaves, giving them homes, food, safety and giving them a sense of beloning is worse than outright killing them?

Because the NCR kills every child they see, and they dont have large refugee camps, where they feed children but dont enslave them as payment.
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:51 am

"role" in the legion, nobody has a role in the legion, because that means you are a seperate part of the legion, the Khans are gone, they arent Khans, they are Legionarries.

It's a Legionnaire or death, why can't you see this.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:30 pm

So, basically you're saying that taking Kids as slaves, giving them homes, food, safety and giving them a sense of beloning is worse than outright killing them?

That make's total sense...



Are you high?


Everyone in the Legion has a Role.


Bitter Springs was a ONE TIME THING! Its not the Norm. NCR does not go around butchuring children. Khans are not going to be their own group with in the Legion. They are just Legion troops. There is not going to be "the Khan battalion" or anything like that.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:26 pm

...Khans are not going to be their own group with in the Legion. They are no just Legion troops. There is not going to be "the Khan battalion or anything like that."


That's the point.

That's what makes the Legion stronger than the NCR.

Everyone has a sense of purpose in the Legion.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:47 pm

Bitter Springs was a ONE TIME THING! Its not the Norm. NCR does not go around butchuring children. Khans are not going to be their own group with in the Legion. They are just Legion troops. There is not going to be "the Khan battalion" or anything like that.

Jesus Christ, why do you continue bringing up the Khans. The Legion integrates most of them into the Legion, NCR massacres them.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:43 pm

That's the point.

That's what makes the Legion stronger than the NCR.

Everyone has a sense of purpose in the Legion.

"I feel great today, I am so monotonous and normal, all 1000 of the guys in this camp are just like me! I have purpose because everyone else can and will replace me if i step out of line, i am so non-unique and un-special, how grand!"


@ Elvis
They dont massacre them, they move them off their land to another location, but still alive and intact as a clan.
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:41 am

the legion moves through and unites all the tribes under one banner.
not slaughter all of them
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:51 pm

That's the point.

That's what makes the Legion stronger than the NCR.

Everyone has a sense of purpose in the Legion.


Yep after they wipe out everything there is about your people and past life and brainwash you into being a slaver. Womens purpose will be six slaves and cooks, children will be future soldiers. If the Legion take over all it means is that the Great Khans let their bitterness about bitter springs ruin them.

Many warlords around the world arn't evil. They are just giving those people a sense of purpose :thumbsup:
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:43 pm

the legion moves through and unites all the tribes under one banner.
not slaughter all of them

-except for those who like having an identity, "oh you name is Bob? Not anymore, you are a Legionary, and you will never be anything else."
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:43 am

@ Elvis
They dont massacre them, they move them off their land to another location, but still alive and intact as a clan.


Yea.

A place that has no natural resources and is no where near any trade routes.

I'd give the Khans four-seven days before they all die from dehydration and stravation.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:01 pm

Yep after they wipe out everything there is about your people and past life and brainwash you into being a slaver. Womens purpose will be six slaves and cooks, children will be future soldiers. If the Legion take over all it means is that the Great Khans let their bitterness about bitter springs ruin them.

Many warlords around the world arn't evil. They are just giving those people a sense of purpose :thumbsup:

not all women are slaves.
caesar sometimes handpicks some of the women to be preistesses and they take care of the infants
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:06 pm

Yea.

A place that has no natural resources and is no where near any trade routes.

I'd give the Khans four-seven days before they all die from dehydration and stravation.

because the Khans are totally dependant on trade and supply caravans from the NCR, they are independant and will survive, as they always have, independant as a clan, proud.
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:27 am

NCR's Goal is not to rebuild America just to rebuild. They just use the pre-war government as a template. Pre-War America invaded Canada which started WW3? America Annexed Canada because Canada was getting in the way of the Amrican War effort against China Which invade Alaska. We don't know who started WW3.

NCR is overburdened thats what the Devs were trying to show. I Would also like to see Legion building in a DLC insted of alway burning.

Blame the devs we only see legion attacking, there is the fort, cottonwood cove, a raid camp, nelson, legates camp and nipton (if you want to include it). Few locations, some are pointless e.g raid camp, others onyl seen at the ending e.g legates camp. Most have about 1 quest, due to being a base with soldiers. You arent going to see much when there are 5 locations, and all of them are about war. You only see a tiny bit of the legion, and all of it is the same side. Blame the devs for this, but you cant judge the legion properly based on 5 locations all of which were war camps.


Because the NCR kills every child they see, and they dont have large refugee camps, where they feed children but dont enslave them as payment.

You mean the refugee camp bittersprings, that was understocked, and didnt even have a proper doctor ? Yeah great place for kids, atleast the legion can provide food, proetection and clean water.
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:12 am

because the Khans are totally dependant on trade and supply caravans from the NCR, they are independant and will survive, as they always have, independant as a clan, proud.


Where do you think the Khans get their supplies?

They just magically grow out of thin air?
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:11 pm

NCR supporters, PLEASE, and I do mean please.... Stop pulling things out your rectums. This is getting stupid now.
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:31 am

EDIT- Accidental dubble post, my bad.
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:22 am

not all women are slaves.
caesar sometimes handpicks some of the women to be preistesses and they take care of the infants


And that makes it all better then eh?
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:31 pm

-except for those who like having an identity, "oh you name is Bob? Not anymore, you are a Legionary, and you will never be anything else."

you get an identity when you prove yourself loyal.
lucius was a nobody and now he is the leader of the praetorian guards
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:09 am

Where do you think the Khans get their supplies?

They just magically grow out of thin air?

because the Khans we see in the game totally dont grow their own crops and live within their own means, after Bitter Springs, they saw what how the NCR reacts to how you continuously slaughtering its caravans.
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Post » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:44 pm

because the Khans we see in the game totally dont grow their own crops and live within their own means, after Bitter Springs, they saw what how the NCR reacts to how you continuously slaughtering its caravans.


They don't actually grow anything in Red Rock. Nothing can grow there except for a few shrubs.
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Post » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:04 am

They don't actually grow anything in Red Rock. Nothing can grow there except for a few shrubs.

Except all the Maize, Prickly Pear, Agave, and Tabbacco that they do grow there.
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