Less Parity in Races!

Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:35 pm

In Oblivion, the Bosmer were just shorter Altmer, and Dunmer were just shorter blue Altmer. The Argonians and Khajiit were no different from the other races in anything other than appearance. Even worse, both types of races (Elves, Beast-folk) had identical voices. We don't really see any cultural differences, or differences in the way they act. The only one i recall is Nords supposedly drinking a lot more than other races. Every races personality was different, and you never saw Bosmer in the woods hunting, or Imperials reading, or Nords actually drinking, or High Elves acting proud and haughty. You can pretty much replace any character in Oblivion with another identical character of another race. I demand less parity in Skyrim!
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Uh... you're saying the elves aren't diverse because they all look like variously coloured and sized humans with pointy ears and slighlty weird eyes (What they're supposed to be)? What do you want? One to be a green blob, another to be a six legged dinosaur and the other to be a medusa? And then you say Argonians and Khajiits are the same besides appearance. Firstly, that IS the big difference, and secondly, they have different stats like all the races do.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:43 am

Uh... you're saying the elves aren't diverse because they all look like variously coloured and sized humans with pointy ears and slighlty weird eyes (What they're supposed to be)? What do you want? One to be a green blob, another to be a six legged dinosaur and the other to be a medusa? And then you say Argonians and Khajiits are the same besides appearance. Firstly, that IS the big difference, and secondly, they have different stats like all the races do.

Wood elfs in the past had tribal face tattoos.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:50 pm

Uh... you're saying the elves aren't diverse because they all look like variously coloured and sized humans with pointy ears and slighlty weird eyes (What they're supposed to be)? What do you want? One to be a green blob, another to be a six legged dinosaur and the other to be a medusa? And then you say Argonians and Khajiits are the same besides appearance. Firstly, that IS the big difference, and secondly, they have different stats like all the races do.


You don't get the point. The races in the game don't elaborate on the culture at all. How is an Argonian actually different? Are you saying that the only way Americans are different from say, Indians is physicality and appearance? The races don't act differently, and don't even sound different.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:32 pm

I'm tempted to say troll thread....
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:31 pm

You didn't get the memo? They're revamping the races for Skyrim -- they're gonna make them more unique.... man, you need to start watching the info that comes in instead of coming in here demanding things ;)
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:51 pm

You didn't get the memo? They're revamping the races for Skyrim -- they're gonna make them more unique.... man, you need to start watching the info that comes in instead of coming in here demanding things ;)


I want to see differences in actions too, not just looks
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:57 pm

Yeah, Altmer/Bosmer and Imperial/Breton were sometimes very hard to make out. The voice acting didn't improve matters.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:32 am

I want to see differences in actions too, not just looks


Maybe you should have been a little bit clearer in the original post. There were some differences in behavior and culture, but I think living in Cyrodil, the Emperials have done a fine job of suppressing Cultural expression, building up instead their own personal sense of normality and order.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:19 pm

Maybe you should have been a little bit clearer in the original post. There were some differences in behavior and culture, but I think living in Cyrodil, the Emperials have done a fine job of suppressing Cultural expression, building up instead their own personal sense of normality and order.


It is in the original post, nowhere in Cyrodil is "cultural expression" outlawed..
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:43 am

It is in the original post, nowhere in Cyrodil is "cultural expression" outlawed..


But it is strongly fromwned upon. Ever visited Leyawiin/Bruma.

I agree that they should be more obviously different (took me ages to differentiate Breton from Imperial).
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:48 am

You don't get the point. The races in the game don't elaborate on the culture at all. How is an Argonian actually different? Are you saying that the only way Americans are different from say, Indians is physicality and appearance?


Well culture has to be taught, the difference between an american and an indian, is indeed only physically.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:16 pm

But it is strongly fromwned upon. Ever visited Leyawiin/Bruma.

I agree that they should be more obviously different (took me ages to differentiate Breton from Imperial).


Yes

Well culture has to be taught, the difference between an american and an indian, is indeed only physically.


The culture is already there! Half of the citizens were immigrants from Black Marsh (Argonians) Elsweyr (Khajiit) Morrowind (Dark Elf) Skyrim (Nords) Redguards (Hammerfell)
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:52 pm

I never thought of it before, but I agree. Many of the races did look nearly the same and didn't differ much in personality. It would be great to see a little more difference in both.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:39 pm

I never thought of it before, but I agree. Many of the races did look nearly the same and didn't differ much in personality. It would be great to see a little more difference in both.


Hey, thanks for the personality part! I'll add that in the description!
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:42 pm

Personally I′m more for having specific interesting NPC with depth, rather then some wide attempt to make High Elf A seam to act very different from Nord B, naturally I′m not against letting races have there little trademarks, but personally I thought Oblivion did well on that.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:04 am

Personally I′m more for having specific interesting NPC with depth, rather then some wide attempt to make High Elf A seam to act very different from Nord B, naturally I′m not against letting races have there little trademarks, but personally I thought Oblivion did well on that.


I agree with you, but there should be more cultural differences that actually reflect the culture. For example, why were all all the wood elves annoying? And why did you rarely ever see a wood elf outside of town, and even if you did, it was a bandit?
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:28 am

I agree with you, but there should be more cultural differences that actually reflect the culture. For example, why were all all the wood elves annoying? And why did you rarely ever see a wood elf outside of town, and even if you did, it was a bandit?


then I counter ask...do knowing those thing really makes the game go any better?

if there is something I learned in my life, is that there isn′t nothing that there can′t be to much of. And to me this just sound like to much filler for to little pay off
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:59 pm

In Oblivion, the Bosmer were just shorter Altmer, and Dunmer were just shorter blue Altmer. The Argonians and Khajiit were no different from the other races in anything other than appearance. Even worse, both types of races (Elves, Beast-folk) had identical voices. We don't really see any cultural differences, or differences in the way they act. The only one i recall is Nords supposedly drinking a lot more than other races. Every races personality was different, and you never saw Bosmer in the woods hunting, or Imperials reading, or Nords actually drinking, or High Elves acting snobby. You can pretty much replace any character in Oblivion with another identical character of another race. I demand less parity in Skyrim!


I'm not sure how much more wrong this could be. I saw nords drinking, MOST high elves acted like snobby [censored]. argonians AND khajiit both talked different from the rest. orcs also had their own personality if you didnt notice. maybe try playing through the game and trying to pay attention more and you'll see.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:20 pm

I agree with you, but there should be more cultural differences that actually reflect the culture. For example, why were all all the wood elves annoying? And why did you rarely ever see a wood elf outside of town, and even if you did, it was a bandit?


Good point. It seemed that all of the wood elves were very annoying. Always prodding. Also, all the Orcs were "brutal" and didn't give any consideration on anything you had to say. Same could be said about the Khajiit and how mischievous/ "behind your back" they were. I would like to see more diversity.

I also agree that we should see wood elves in the......wait for it.........FOREST! And I don't want to just see them as bandits either. They should be out hunting, or in camps, or even just walking around.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:35 pm

then I counter ask...do knowing those thing really makes the game go any better?

if there is something I learned in my life, is that there isn′t nothing that there can′t be to much of. And to me this just sound like to much filler for to little pay off


I think it definitely adds immersion and polish

I'm not sure how much more wrong this could be. I saw nords drinking, MOST high elves acted like snobby [censored]. argonians AND khajiit both talked different from the rest. orcs also had their own personality if you didnt notice. maybe try playing through the game and trying to pay attention more and you'll see.


Talking different doesn't make a difference, Nords and Orcs were hardly different in habits, High Elves were either completely normal or more snobby than proud and reclusive
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:28 am

This has already been confirmed.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:42 pm

This has already been confirmed.


I think i read so somewhere too, but do you have a link or source?
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:42 am

I think it definitely adds immersion and polish



again, there can be to much of everything

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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:10 pm

I think i read so somewhere too, but do you have a link or source?

I think it's state in the podcast or maybe one of the Todd Howard interviews. He says how Imperials will be more distinguishable from Bretons and Nords and that in general, the differences between races will be more noticeable.
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