let us make new actions!

Post » Mon May 02, 2011 9:04 pm

for example- a kick function, some algorithms for kicking. a key that makes you kick. a set of kicking animations

or a new class of weapon that we will label "polearm" and its animations

or a new behavior for npc's and the player. such as climbing functions.

or a new spell effect.

or a new radiant ai addition
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 8:40 am

Oh god, another jack topic. Can we wait until Skyrim is out before discussing mods for it?
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 4:12 am

I am too poor to buy enough desks to facedesk with.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 1:56 am

Oh god, another jack topic. Can we wait until Skyrim is out before discussing mods for it?

This.

Que the disappearing act...
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 7:04 pm

Feet are for walking....
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 1:51 am

Oh god, another jack topic. Can we wait until Skyrim is out before discussing mods for it?

+1 :thumbsup:
@OP :facepalm:
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 10:50 pm

Feet are for walking....


Oh, M'aiq...
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 4:14 am

for example- a kick function, some algorithms for kicking. a key that makes you kick. a set of kicking animations

or a new class of weapon that we will label "polearm" and its animations

or a new behavior for npc's and the player. such as climbing functions.


And will you be making the animations for these?

or a new spell effect.


The only one thats feasible really. Check out Midas Magic for Oblivion for example.

or a new radiant ai addition


For what purpose? What sort of additions?

You've not really given anything for discussion here, just listed things you've previously created threads to whine about.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 6:38 pm

And will you be making the animations for these?

Last I heard, Bethesda will be using a new tool for animations. Does this mean that any animations created by modders will not be up to par with what will be in-game? Or is that new tool freely available for all to use?
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 4:56 am

Last I heard, Bethesda will be using a new tool for animations. Does this mean that any animations created by modders will not be up to par with what will be in-game? Or is that new tool freely available for all to use?


Well, it would depend on if that tool is licensed from a third party like the modelling tool Bethesda use. In that case, modders would have to find their own tools to use to create animations.

Traditionally though, only a few people succeeded in creating new animations. However, most of the new animations had to replace an existing one.

Some such as those in the Deadly Reflex mod are new animations that don't replace existing ones. And in my opinion, they are certainly up to par :) but with the new Creation Kit, the new engine and the new Beth animations, it may take some time before we're at that level again.


But that comment was actually an allusion to one of the OPs previous threads where he claimed Bethesda could make new animations and implement a full on climbing system 'within a week' as if all it took was to open up the Creation kit and tick a box that said 'implement climbing and another that said 'generate new animations'.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 7:01 pm

to tell you the truth, i would like to see a variation in the combat system, maybe once in a while they could use a shield bash, or a punch, or even a kick, makes it look more barbaric.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 11:46 pm



Well maybe instead of just strain lines of suggestion add some descriptions to your features?

for example- a kick function, some algorithms for kicking. a key that makes you kick. a set of kicking animations

kick was featured in previous games, Daggerfall for example features 3 different kicks
http://i.picasion.com/pic40/1234478947b9d4c393692b5d95460714.gif http://i.picasion.com/pic40/727a9557a250d59cd9cbec0071673701.gif http://i.picasion.com/pic40/337b4141f442ed92a6b3065d10a1626b.gif
Well in Oblivion I was disappoint by some skiils and power attack what we do in Hand to Hand Combat, most of martial artist will kick enemy instead of mauling on them with two hands, thats looks good for Orcimer and Nord but funny for small Bosmer or tall Altmer.
So we come to different question why not add some race specific Hand to Hand moves, for power attack at last?
Tood say thats races no anymore equal and more unique, I think it logical add some race (and if possible gender) specific movements thats will make races more unique, as well will demonstrate how well Developers improve animations and how good Havok Behavior was applied.

or a new class of weapon that we will label "polearm" and its animations

Well I believe developers will not do again the same mistake and make all two handed weapons use the same animations as well one handed will also have specific ones and long sword will has different animations then dagger has, guys there is 2011 year not 2000 having such mistake now its strange, as well there is competitors who can add such variability to game, potential customers now check videos of gameplay before buy so make some eye candy combat variations is must.
Thats isn't hard now modders do this for Oblivion, you are all skilled and experienced game devs team, you have powerful tools have new middleware technologies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQBqDXuNgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yJx2QabwB4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZWXum8Hjz8

or a new behavior for npc's and the player. such as climbing functions.

Climbing is thing thats really good if NPC can do it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xZNcIRauA, what stop Devs to add such feature now?
There is many games where climbig was done very good, some one say thats some devs like Shadow of Colossus, thats game has nicely done climbing, why not take it as inspiration for some features?
Skyrim has so beautiful Mountains, thats great places for exploring Z axis, such places can have hazards like Cliffracers who will try attack player while he climbing, powerful winds trying blow players from cliff, natural traps like icicles and slippery ice, I don't think all Mountains has steps thats looks to ridicules.
Besides climbing was an skill Daggerfall why not add it as perk ability to Athletic skill?
Using it will drain fatigue when used, NPC can use it automatically to reach player at high places instead of just stay take shoots from player.
Make game more interesting by adding new axis to explore, such option can work with magic also how about Spider walk Alteration spell for Nightblades and shady mages?

or a new spell effect.

Well better decide what new spell effects you want to see, make some decisions.
For me will be awesome if devs will return old ones at last and script effect.

or a new radiant ai addition

How about such features?
Put it in its Place - Enhanced Grabbing
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19847
NPC react on player havoked actions in proper way, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv49LK3lytI but they http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oujSeIeqhM, they much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2ZLWLXNUZM they tryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8gvcTLqzns and many more features, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0K4xkCRLYI

And
Reneers Guard Overhaul
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5977
Be better guards with better AI, who search and investigate around and have telepathic scum-sense

And
Utilize Z axis not just stick below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgrUPA-TlhM

And
Phitts Phighting Phixes
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32651
Makes actors care
After combat begins, the range at which actors can detect the player is increased. This prevents moving just close enough to a group that one enemy engages you while the others scratch their heads then return to conversation.
Reduce door exploits
Allows more actors to follow the player through a loading door in combat, and reduces the time they take to do so, preventing a big group of enemies from splitting up just because of those scary doorknobs.

And
Duke Patricks Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18065
as well as
Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16150

And
Ability to NPC use sneak and attack player from behind, so detect life spell become useful
Stealth Wars
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36493
Such feature work well with darker dungeons (make light spells and torches more useful)

And be better in combat
Duke Patrick's Hammer-Blade Mod For Oblivion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-d6eS4159c

Oh god, another jack topic. Can we wait until Skyrim is out before discussing mods for it?

So our fellow console players does not deserve additional gameplay features and improvements? :hubbahubba:
How rude and ignorant are you! :whistling:
Does you justify laziness of some one and glorify hard work of others who pay money for finished product and receive half baked one? :teehee:
to tell you the truth, i would like to see a variation in the combat system, maybe once in a while they could use a shield bash, or a punch, or even a kick, makes it look more barbaric.

Well kick is major feature medieval fencing so it fit well to any combat styles not only to barbaric one
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