Yes, as Dan says there's a new writer.

I am slightly worried however: Chap's only published one book and made the script for one Doctor Who episode...

Don't worry I think he's the head writer so there are others that can modify it too, I'm really interested though so far, the world is frozen etc.... DON'T MAKE KARL RASCH A CRAZY NAZI PLZ!

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NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!

THANK YOU. Finally, the subject has been settled, albeit with people still rejecting and insulting me for trying to explain the storyline.

But you are so wrong! Alcatraz NEVER DIED!!! he was going to if it wasnt for the suit,prophet DID die actually and he slowly begun to merge with Alcatraz,and by the end of the game that process is completed and no ALCATRAZ and PROPHET both are the same in the suit.And yes this is all VERY WELL explained in the Crysis Legion book just read it.

Alcatraz body never died*

They are both in the same suit, but Prophet is the dominant person since, Alcatraz mind is either blank or comatose.

So yes, you're right, you're just not getting it all.
This really makes no sense. Alcatraz period never died. You're saying Alcatraz' mind is dead. If it were comatose, one the suit would repair it just as any other injury to the user, and two Alcatraz wouldn't be able to think, walk, or move period. He would be in a vegetative state, which if he were (which he isn't) the suit would repair him.

As its been explained, Alcatraz took on the name Prophet. Prophet isn't coming back, he can't because he physically killed himself. The suit just stored Prophet into itself, and then moved the contents of his brain into Alcatraz' mind permanently. Prophet is just another part of Alcatraz' mind.

But he is no Harvey Dent.

Just in case people start making that assumption.

Think its time to revive this thread. People are starting to show up thinking Laurence Barnes is somehow still physically alive.

They used to call me Admiral Morrison....
Remember me.

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Lol, dont play this for the story. They already messed the story up with part 2
No reference with part one what so ever. The story in part 2 was nothing to really keep track on.

It's very simple, the end of crysis 2 was about the return of Prophet as it turns out the link was not broken like he thought because the suit changes those rules, Alcatraz should be dead from fatal injuries but is maintained by the suit and Prophets consciousness and cognition is maintained by the suit.

Along with the assimilated alien biocode, Alcatraz physical form and Prophets mind we have our post-human warrior

The simplest expression is Alcatraz does the walking and Prophet does the talking

It's very simple, the end of crysis 2 was about the return of Prophet as it turns out the link was not broken like he thought because the suit changes those rules, Alcatraz should be dead from fatal injuries but is maintained by the suit and Prophets consciousness and cognition is maintained by the suit.

Along with the assimilated alien biocode, Alcatraz physical form and Prophets mind we have our post-human warrior

The simplest expression is Alcatraz does the walking and Prophet does the talking
If you mean that Prophet is doing all the controlling and thinking, you're wrong.

It's very simple, the end of crysis 2 was about the return of Prophet as it turns out the link was not broken like he thought because the suit changes those rules, Alcatraz should be dead from fatal injuries but is maintained by the suit and Prophets consciousness and cognition is maintained by the suit.

Along with the assimilated alien biocode, Alcatraz physical form and Prophets mind we have our post-human warrior

The simplest expression is Alcatraz does the walking and Prophet does the talking
If you mean that Prophet is doing all the controlling and thinking, you're wrong.

Prophet does the talking

what part is difficult to understand

If you mean he talks FOR Alcatraz that's something completely different.

If you mean he talks FOR Alcatraz that's something completely different.

I do mean that, Alcatraz no longer has the ability to speak "Prophet does the talking"

I thought it was quite interesting that he (Alcatraz) not only is imprisoned in the suit but also in his own body

they all make up the single post-human entity, we know Alcatraz has his mental faculties because Prophet speaks directly to him.

Calling the character Prophet in Crysis 3 is down to Prophet being the only expressed personality.

If you mean he talks FOR Alcatraz that's something completely different.

I do mean that, Alcatraz no longer has the ability to speak "Prophet does the talking"

I thought it was quite interesting that he (Alcatraz) not only is imprisoned in the suit but also in his own body

they all make up the single post-human entity, we know Alcatraz has his mental faculties because Prophet speaks directly to him.

Calling the character Prophet in Crysis 3 is down to Prophet being the only expressed personality.
Sigh, how many times have I (and others) explained this...
PROPHET IS DEAD. BUT, Prophet lives on as A PART of Alcatraz' mind. Prophet doesn't speak for Alcatraz, Alcatraz uses the voice synthesizer which stored Prophet's voice. Prophet speaks to Alcatraz (as well as appears to him) when Alcatraz is knocked unconscious (not killed as so many of you seem to think). That was the only possible way for Alcatraz to hear/see him, which also proves Prophet is now a part of Alcatraz' mind the same way his memories are.
Prophet has NOT merged personalities with Alcatraz,
Prophet has NOT taken over,
Prophet has NOT returned, revived, etc.
Alcatraz still thinks for himself, he just took on the name Prophet not because he thinks he IS Prophet but because 1) Everyone kept calling him Prophet throughout C2 so he's probably gotten used to being called that, and 2) to carry on Laurence Barnes' spirit because he is now a part of Alcatraz.

Playing the Crysis 2 campaign a couple of times, I would say that Prophet is the suit, and Alcatraz is the wearer. I have a few points of evidence below.

All throughout the game, Gould is trying to access a fresh data pile in the deep layers of the suit. Now when Alcatraz and Gould break into a Cell facility to scan the deep layer, the data pile sends out a broadcast of what happened to Prophet (this would be Prophets attempt to explain what happened). Shortly after, Alcatraz and Gould are captured by Lockhard and Strickland. Alcatraz is loaded up into a helicopter, what soon crashes. You then have to debrillate Alcatraz to save his life... Now if your heart stopped beating for even 20 minutes, you would have brain damage, and would obviously be dead, so who was defibrillating Alcatraz, assuming he was unconcious? The answer is Prophet.

Now if Prophet's memories were merged into Alcatraz, how would the suit have generated that conversation between Prophet and Alcatraz at the end of the game. The suit had to have a functioning copy of Prophet in itself to do this.

I would say that Prophet's original physical being died when he shot himself, but he survived because the suit created a copy of him within itself. Alcatraz became the wearer at that point, and the suit began to assimilate them as it can only handle one person.

Alcatraz doesn't have too much experience with the suit, so all those close escapes that Alcatraz makes (surviving a fall into water by turning on Armor Mode at the last second) was probably done by Prophet.

At the end of the game, Prophet has most likely become Alcatraz's sub-conciousness, and seeing that the suit "executes prophet's will", It can be said that Prophet is the suit itself at that point.

Thats what I think, but we're going to have to wait till Crysis 3 to learn what really happened.

Reading some news, In Crysis 3, Prophet will have a "side quest" of discovering who and what he is now as his body is dead. Also, doing some more reading, it's confirmed that Psyco will return in Crysis 3.

And a little side thought, we all know what happened to Nomad, he was shot by an RPG in the comics, but his suit wasn't torn or anything. Because the Nanosuit 1 also provided a deep layer, couldn't the suit have also created a copy of Nomad prior to his death?

Playing the Crysis 2 campaign a couple of times, I would say that Prophet is the suit, and Alcatraz is the wearer. I have a few points of evidence below.

All throughout the game, Gould is trying to access a fresh data pile in the deep layers of the suit. Now when Alcatraz and Gould break into a Cell facility to scan the deep layer, the data pile sends out a broadcast of what happened to Prophet (this would be Prophets attempt to explain what happened).

Can't exactly explain this one/Don't really have anything saying one thing or another. Weren't they using a computer when they accessed that data file? But, although the suit is symbiotic (partially alive), it is still machine. So the fresh data probably WAS the broadcast, but likely encrypted enough that Gould's computer wasn't advanced enough to play it.
Shortly after, Alcatraz and Gould are captured by Lockhard and Strickland. Alcatraz is loaded up into a helicopter, what soon crashes. You then have to debrillate Alcatraz to save his life... Now if your heart stopped beating for even 20 minutes, you would have brain damage, and would obviously be dead, so who was defibrillating Alcatraz, assuming he was unconcious? The answer is Prophet.

Assuming I'm remembering that part correctly, Alcatraz wasn't unconscious. The suit has a built in defibrillator, and so was doing it automatically. The suit was fusing directly into Alcatraz, and any EMP blasts/anything that removed power from the suit became lethal to him. In response the suit does whatever it can to move power into his vital organs to keep him alive. In that specific case, it activated the defibrillator.
Now if Prophet's memories were merged into Alcatraz, how would the suit have generated that conversation between Prophet and Alcatraz at the end of the game. The suit had to have a functioning copy of Prophet in itself to do this.

Was pretty sure I already answered this. I'll take fault for this by assuming I didn't explain myself clearly enough, so for the umpteenth time here goes: I said Prophet (by which I mean memories, consciousness, experiences, etc) is a part of Alcatraz' mind. Yes, the suit most likely did store Prophet into itself BUT only temporarily. It then moved Prophet into Alcatraz' mind for permanent keeping. I gave the example of Alcatraz seeing/hearing Prophet at the end when he's unconscious because when you're unconscious you're not awake. Therefore you're "trapped" inside your mind. Which again proves Prophet is a part of Alcatraz' mind. If the suit had permanently stored Prophet inside itself, why would Alcatraz need to be unconscious to have a conversation with him?
I would say that Prophet's original physical being died when he shot himself, but he survived because the suit created a copy of him within itself. Alcatraz became the wearer at that point, and the suit began to assimilate them as it can only handle one person.

Yes, Prophet is physically dead. And yes the suit did create a copy of him within itself.BUT as I said, only temporarily. The suit moved Prophet into Alcatraz' mind because if Alcatraz died, the suit could then take everything (memories, personality, etc including Prophet) from one source (this being Alcatraz' mind) and move it into the next host (not wearer, as the suit is symbiotic).
Alcatraz doesn't have too much experience with the suit, so all those close escapes that Alcatraz makes (surviving a fall into water by turning on Armor Mode at the last second) was probably done by Prophet.

Uh, not sure what to say about this one...except the suit is symbiotic and makes its host smarter (as well as faster, stronger, and a lot of other stuff but let's focus on smarter). So, I'm pretty sure Alcatraz activated Armor Mode by himself.
At the end of the game, Prophet has most likely become Alcatraz's sub-conciousness, and seeing that the suit "executes prophet's will", It can be said that Prophet is the suit itself at that point.

Not sure to say about this one either because the suit DOESN'T "execute Prophet's will". If this were true, whose will would it have "executed" when Prophet had the suit. As for the subconscious part, again Prophet is a part of Alcatraz' mind.
Thats what I think, but we're going to have to wait till Crysis 3 to learn what really happened.

Yep, the one thing we can agree on.
Reading some news, In Crysis 3, Prophet will have a "side quest" of discovering who and what he is now as his body is dead. Also, doing some more reading, it's confirmed that Psyco will return in Crysis 3.

Uh, yeah that's decently old news. Its been in my "Everything you need to know about Crysis 3" thread for a few days. And it isn't really news, its the author's opinion about what he thinks will happen
And a little side thought, we all know what happened to Nomad, he was shot by an RPG in the comics, but his suit wasn't torn or anything. Because the Nanosuit 1 also provided a deep layer, couldn't the suit have also created a copy of Nomad prior to his death?
1) Haven't read the comics but if the RPG killed him it would have destroyed the suit (or at least a lot of it) too. Or someone would have destroyed the suit so the Koreans wouldn't have gotten it and researched it to upgrade their nanosuits/something along those lines.

Playing the Crysis 2 campaign a couple of times, I would say that Prophet is the suit, and Alcatraz is the wearer. I have a few points of evidence below.

All throughout the game, Gould is trying to access a fresh data pile in the deep layers of the suit. Now when Alcatraz and Gould break into a Cell facility to scan the deep layer, the data pile sends out a broadcast of what happened to Prophet (this would be Prophets attempt to explain what happened). Shortly after, Alcatraz and Gould are captured by Lockhard and Strickland. Alcatraz is loaded up into a helicopter, what soon crashes. You then have to debrillate Alcatraz to save his life... Now if your heart stopped beating for even 20 minutes, you would have brain damage, and would obviously be dead, so who was defibrillating Alcatraz, assuming he was unconcious? The answer is Prophet.

Now if Prophet's memories were merged into Alcatraz, how would the suit have generated that conversation between Prophet and Alcatraz at the end of the game. The suit had to have a functioning copy of Prophet in itself to do this.

I would say that Prophet's original physical being died when he shot himself, but he survived because the suit created a copy of him within itself. Alcatraz became the wearer at that point, and the suit began to assimilate them as it can only handle one person.

Alcatraz doesn't have too much experience with the suit, so all those close escapes that Alcatraz makes (surviving a fall into water by turning on Armor Mode at the last second) was probably done by Prophet.

At the end of the game, Prophet has most likely become Alcatraz's sub-conciousness, and seeing that the suit "executes prophet's will", It can be said that Prophet is the suit itself at that point.

Thats what I think, but we're going to have to wait till Crysis 3 to learn what really happened.

Reading some news, In Crysis 3, Prophet will have a "side quest" of discovering who and what he is now as his body is dead. Also, doing some more reading, it's confirmed that Psyco will return in Crysis 3.

And a little side thought, we all know what happened to Nomad, he was shot by an RPG in the comics, but his suit wasn't torn or anything. Because the Nanosuit 1 also provided a deep layer, couldn't the suit have also created a copy of Nomad prior to his death?



So you are saying that prophet is the one doing the stuff all the time like activating armor mode before diving into the water? xD that is nonesense dude,and if you look for information about the Nanosuit 2.0 you will see that it has a DESFIBRILATOR on it so the wearer can use it,and if you READ Crysis Legion you will FULLY realize that Alcatraz is always himself and doing ALL the things himself because we are reading the entire Crysis 2 campaign from HIS point of view,the only parts when prophet and his memories appear before him is when he is unconscious not DEAD.


Idont kow why people keep arguing about this is like they all want to believe that you play with Prophet just because they like him better NOOO its Alcatraz,get over it.

This is the main points I think everyone that is sane can agree on.

Prophet shot himself with a bullet.

Alcatraz is dead... Medically. But he is still mentally alive. I mean your Alcatraz for the whole game. You know that you were **** up but some how are fine and walking around if the suit is working.

The suit is symbiotic both mentally (Prophet talking to you more and more as the game goes on) and psychically (it was replacing your broken parts of the body with material suit its self in turn it was breaking them down since they didn't work anymore.)

I lean to Prophet is alive mentally via the suit but Alcatraz is still alive in the sense he still thinks and controls the suit(most of the time). The suit does and can use the brain to do assist its own thinking but at the same time it does the same for the user.

Prophet IS the suit but uses the extra power computing of Alcatraz's brain to now communicate and talk. He does the talking for both of them. Read the book. The suit is talking but Alcatraz is not sure if its him or the suit doing the mental part of it or a combo of both. Its really two computers linked together and using both of each others power.

Alcatraz is still there. He does talk about thinks in the manner that only he could talk about them. Is it that he is still running the show or that he is just the memory database. He doesn't know the answer himself.

I think this is were the confusion is at. Its that the author intended not to really tell us if he was Alcatraz... still with Prophet as the suit AI(Which was the case for most of Crysis 2). Or Alcatraz is now Prophets puppet(in a good way.) or the option that he keeps repeating: "I don't know who the **** I am now(post Crysis 2) but that I have both of our memories and goals in here."

What happens if your character in Crysis 3 actually talks and out comes Prophets voice? Surely that's not possible if it is Alcatraz's vocal chords/mouth...

@War_Spirit:
That could be the suit's voice synthesizer

I understand that Alcatraz and prophet are both in the suit in some form, Alcatraz Physically, Prophet Mentally...

However Prophet was probably my favorite character from Crysis 1, so maybe Crytek could make it so that say Prophets DNA is used to make a new Prophet with his memories and then Prophet and Alcatraz Fight together as a team or something along those lines. Its just a suggestion.

Some people seem to get real butthurt if anyone suggests that Alcatraz has been superseded. I cannot understand why, Alcatraz was a complete non-character. He may have been more fleshed out in that comic but as far as I am concerned Crysis is a game, not a comic so anything that is not expressed in the narrative of the game is not strictly canon. I think the game strongly alluded to the idea that Alcatraz was nothing more than a meat sack used to keep the suit functioning ;D

I don't think the writer from Crysis 2 is involved with Crysis 3 (correct me if I am wrong) and I would be very surprised if the character of Alcatraz plays any important role in the upcoming game. They could go really out and have the suit completely reconstitute Prophet inside the suit.

We'll see when the game is released

Wow, you actually play this game for the story line? You must have all mist out on part 1 and part 1,5

All i know is that in part 2 you played with a noob, but somehow the suite made him a rambo and the soul of prophet is stuck in the suite aswell as alcatraz. I dont know if this svcks even more then the ending of Lost!