Let me settle some confusion:

Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:21 pm

A number people here are labouring under the missaprehension that Prophet is somehow still alive and you will play as him in C3.
The original person did in fact shoot himself 3 minutes into Crysis 2 (if you can remember) and at the end of the game it turned out that the suit had absorbed his personality/memories somehow and they were slowly being merged with Alcatraz.

So you PLAY as Alcatraz who is now calling himself Prophet due to the fact that they've merged personalities.

Also, Nomad and Helena are long dead.

So can you stop making stupid posts that you'd know the answer to if you actually paid attention to the game now?

Kthxbai.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:42 am

If only they could keep Alcatraz's original voice..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUhXKUEtyHs

Would be a mistake not to.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:52 am

Finally someone explained this a lot of people didnt paid any attetion to the game,thats exaclty whats happening you play as Alcatraz who is merged with Prophet so they are the same now! the only thing i want to know is how are they gonna put both characters in the same suit together,that i do not know but we will have to wait.
And also ***SPOILERS*** Nomad and Helena are INDEED dead,they died in the Crysis comic,wich bridges Crysis with Crysis 2.
***END OF SPOILERS.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:53 pm

One slight thing I have a problem with this is their personalities AREN'T "merging" in the sense I take it you mean. Prophet's memories, experiences, etc as a whole are being "stored" in Alcatraz.
At the end of C2, you hear the words "Assimilation complete". Assimilation meaning "act of becoming part of something" or "integration into group". As I said Prophet is being integrated (or becoming a part of) Alcatraz in his mind. Which is exactly why Alcatraz saw and heard Prophet while he was unconscious after falling out of the spire. Prophet "lives" in Alcatraz' mind.

But thank you for making this thread. Was going to make it myself but I didn't think it was worth my time.

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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:48 am

Correction: You play as Prophet, who lives on in the suit, and Alcatraz is dead. He's just a corpse.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:03 pm

Without the suit Alcatraz would be dead. The suit healed all of his wounds, broken bones, etc, so he isn't dead. Prophet on the other hand...
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:23 pm

Without the suit Alcatraz would be dead. The suit healed all of his wounds, broken bones, etc, so he isn't dead. Prophet on the other hand...


Exaclty thats the difference,Alcatraz NEVER died he would have if it wasn′t for the suit but Prophet DID die.But not his mind.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:26 pm

Ugh, **** dammit, my posts keep glitching out.
Anyway, Crazyfist, Alcatraz is NOT dead. His brain and other needed body functions such as neural networks are kept alive and rebuilt by the suit. Prophet is integrated INTO Alcatraz, he has NOT taken over his body like a puppet master.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:26 am

aaaactually according to the books the difference between Alcatraz and Prophet when it comes to their modus pensandi might be negligible....tho that is indeed Alcatraz in the suit whatever call sign he chooses
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:21 pm

thats what i thought.

but i think they should have worded it differently.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:59 pm

My own understanding is this....

The suit is more than just a machine, it has developed it's own level of sentience. It has absorbed Prophet's memories and thoughts. It has even rebuilt Alcatraz's body and imposed Prophet's mind into his destroyed body. Alcatraz was and still is gone and what is in the suit is now Prophet.

Question is can Prophet remove the suit or are they now one and the same?

That's just my take on it......... you don't have to accept it.......... you can do whatever the **** you wanna do :D
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:14 pm

My own understanding is this....

The suit is more than just a machine, it has developed it's own level of sentience. It has absorbed Prophet's memories and thoughts. It has even rebuilt Alcatraz's body and imposed Prophet's mind into his destroyed body. Alcatraz was and still is gone and what is in the suit is now Prophet.

Question is can Prophet remove the suit or are they now one and the same?

That's just my take on it......... you don't have to accept it.......... you can do whatever the **** you wanna do :D

That's right.

But no, I doubt he can remove the suit, since he pretty much is the suit. And the suit needs the body to live, and since I doubt Prophet actually lives in Alcatraz head, instead of the suit, he'd just become inactive until some other soul puts on the suit.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:30 pm

What i have wondered since crysis 2 is that if the suit *theoretically* continued growing into alcatraz's body... does that mean that given enough time it could replace him entirely?

And yeah, i read somewhere long back that by the end Alcatraz, Prophet AND the suit can all be considered one entity by the end of the game, they are that interlaced
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:57 am

For the last time, he is not replaced by Prophet! If you read the book and paid attention to the ending, it said "assimilation complete", not something like override complete or something that would entail his mind being erased! Plus, his vision shows Prophet talking TO him about working together to stop the invasion!
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:28 am

For the last time, he is not replaced by Prophet!

For the last time, just because someone cannot understand the finer points of narrative construction, doesn't mean they get to cry on forums when people disagree with their dogmatic assertions and limited insight.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:50 pm

For the last time, he is not replaced by Prophet! If you read the book and paid attention to the ending, it said "assimilation complete", not something like override complete or something that would entail his mind being erased! Plus, his vision shows Prophet talking TO him about working together to stop the invasion!

Assimilation. That doesn't mean Alcatraz as a person exists anymore. Infact it in many cases means the opposite.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:19 pm

When the final scene plays out and you see Prophet talking to you - this is a narrative device. This is the way the game communicates to you, the player, what has happened. Then when we step into 3rd person and we see the Nanosuit wearer announce that he is Prophet.

There may be elements of Alcatraz in there, but my view is Alcatraz was always dead. The character was a blank onto which you, as the player, could project your own identity. Much like Nomad was a blank, undefined character in Crysis.

That's cool in my opinion. Alcatraz is nobody. Prophet is the most BA character in the franchise so he needs to be resurrected.

.but hey it's just an opinion..... you can take it or leave it..... you can believe whatever the F*CK you wanna believe :D
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:15 am

But you are so wrong! Alcatraz NEVER DIED!!! he was going to if it wasnt for the suit,prophet DID die actually and his mind that was stored in the suit slowly begun to merge with Alcatraz since hte suit is symbiotic,and by the end of the game that process is completed and now ALCATRAZ and PROPHET both are the same in the suit.And yes this is all VERY WELL explained in the Crysis Legion book just read it.

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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:13 am

Sorry double post
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:01 pm

But you are so wrong! Alcatraz NEVER DIED!!! he was going to if it wasnt for the suit,prophet DID die actually and he slowly begun to merge with Alcatraz,and by the end of the game that process is completed and no ALCATRAZ and PROPHET both are the same in the suit.And yes this is all VERY WELL explained in the Crysis Legion book just read it.

Alcatraz body never died*

They are both in the same suit, but Prophet is the dominant person since, Alcatraz mind is either blank or comatose.

So yes, you're right, you're just not getting it all.
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:58 pm

But you are so wrong! Alcatraz NEVER DIED!!! he was going to if it wasnt for the suit,prophet DID die actually and he slowly begun to merge with Alcatraz,and by the end of the game that process is completed and no ALCATRAZ and PROPHET both are the same in the suit.And yes this is all VERY WELL explained in the Crysis Legion book just read it.

Alcatraz body never died*

They are both in the same suit, but Prophet is the dominant person since, Alcatraz mind is either blank or comatose.

So yes, you're right, you're just not getting it all.


Since when Alcatraz′s mind is comatose? thats not even HINTED at all he is always alive and aware of who he is and what he does in the whole game
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:26 pm

wait...alcatraz comatose?? His mind is blank??

did anyone read the book????
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:22 pm

@ Nico_parasite

The decision to kill them in the comics is even more a crime than cliffhanger of the first crysis!

I pray to Cevat Yerli himself that they will ignore these pieces of crap they call Crysis comics and declare them as "non canon".
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Post » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:40 pm

Alcatraz is NOT dead/comatose/blank if the book is canon. Alcatraz is aware that he is not Laurence Barnes, Alcatraz is aware that Laurence Barnes is dead, yet he insists that he is Prophet.

There's NO difference between Alcatraz, Prophet and the NanoSuit N2. They are all part of the same entity now. "Prophet" IS Alcatraz, Prophet IS Laurence Barnes and Prophet IS the NanoSuit N2.

Regarding the Crysis comics, I think they regard them as canonical for the following reasons:

1) During Crysis 3, it has been said that we will discover the truth behind the death of Prophet's former brethren in arms. Only mention of Psycho being alive has been made after that, so Nomad is probably dead.

2) It has been mentioned that Prophet has remained CryNet's hostage for some time. This happens in Crysis Legion (the novel), so the novel is canon.

3) If the novel (non-game material) is canon and no mention of Nomad is made... Well, the comics are probably canon too.
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