Let's talk Orcs : V

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:37 pm

I thought they svcked in Oblivion. I don't mean to be negative, I am just being honest. I didn't feel like playing as one at all. I hope they are grizzlier, harder, and more savage in Skyrim. I thought they were pretty cool in Morrowind, but because of the lack of graphics capability, it is hard to compare them to Oblivion's. I think Oblivion failed at pretty much every non human race, and also the Nords - but damn is it fun dungeon crawling in Oblivion.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:36 am

lol if they were uncontrollable beasts they would be on the same level as minotaurs.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:00 pm

I completely agree. The orcs should look somewhat like the ones from "The Lord of The Rings" movies.

They just looked a little too clean for being an orc in Oblivion... :shakehead:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:15 am

Who said anything about uncontrollable beasts? I just mean they should seem more beastlike, and grizzlier, not just dainty Bretons with a lovely green hue and some well polished teeth.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:13 pm

I agree. They need to look and feel more brutish and savage. They should be taller than the typical race and more muscular.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:42 am

They're already roughly the size of a nord, and more durable.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:50 am

I do hope they better balance the races in Skyrim. I love Argonians, but they pale in comparison to Bretons, Dunmer, Nords, and other actually good races from Oblivion. And yes, I agree that Orcs were underdone in Oblivion. They don't need to be savages or anything, but some scarier faces would be nice.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:26 am

The Orcs could be done a little better in Skyrim, but I think the were fine in Oblivion. Remember Tamriellic Orcs are elves, not brutish beasts. However, they were still a little too civilised in Oblivion.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:19 pm

I think part of it is going to come through how the orcs look, but about 70% in the appeal of playing as a orc is going to come through interactions with the orcs in the game. They need to be so barbarous that Nords seem like High Elves in comparison.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:37 am

Remember Tamriellic Orcs are elves, not brutish beasts.

They're elves that were cursed to be swallowed by a giant demon and what the behemoth crapped out was "orcs".
What's the point of having orcs if they aren't orcish ? Who wants a fourth elf race??
Make our orcs more orcish in my opinion. Bigger mouths. More teeth. Hairer. Eviler eyes. Scars. Long gorilla arms. 3 fingers 1 thumb, per hand... hmm... maybe 1 finger 2 thumbs per hand...yeah...that's goooood.

EDIT: Also it would be sweet lore wise if they sometimes ate their young.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:30 am

Orcs in TES are not all mindless savages. This is not Tolkien.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:46 pm

I think they should look to the morrowind mod: "better heads" for insperation.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:53 pm

eat their young?! That's going a little far, IMO.

I would like them to come off a little more brutish, yeah, but not gorilla-like.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:21 am

Don't Orcs call themselves the pig folk. I think they should be more like pigs, they way Kajits are like cats and Argonions are like lizards. Perhaps that's just me though.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:38 am

I do hope they change the female orc voice...sounded like a 13 year old girl.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:54 pm

I like them how they are, just with better facial design (though not too different, they're not supposed to be LOTR orcs) and more grey-brown than bright green.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:56 am

Don't Orcs call themselves the pig folk. I think they should be more like pigs, they way Kajits are like cats and Argonions are like lizards. Perhaps that's just me though.

No they don't, that's racist imperial propaganda during the ages when they were treated as monsters.

Also, they're orsimer. Orcs is this game's short way of saying orsimer. They're mer, elves, http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1182290_99060209121_O&GGrimgorMain_873x627.jpg, http://www.dqshrine.com/dq/dq2/orc.jpg, http://www.freewebz.com/lord_ofthe_rings/Orcs2.jpg, http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3026/3033809202_86a5ac1280.jpg, or http://www.about-world-of-warcraft.com/images/Orcs.gif. They should look more like http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/races_mw_orc.gif

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:14 am

Orcs a my favorite race in Morrowind. In general, TES orcs have much more honor and dignity than that of the traditional orc. I like Beths take on them, but they could look a little more "orcish." Actually, I think the addition of beards will suit them well.

*gasp*

Orcs with beards!!
It's about time...

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:15 am

They're elves that were cursed to be swallowed by a giant demon and what the behemoth crapped out was "orcs".
What's the point of having orcs if they aren't orcish ? Who wants a fourth elf race??
Make our orcs more orcish in my opinion. Bigger mouths. More teeth. Hairer. Eviler eyes. Scars. Long gorilla arms. 3 fingers 1 thumb, per hand... hmm... maybe 1 finger 2 thumbs per hand...yeah...that's goooood.

EDIT: Also it would be sweet lore wise if they sometimes ate their young.

No. Boethiah tricked the god Trinimac into entering his mouth so he could speak with his voice. Boethiah ate Trinimac.
And Malacath is the the outcome.
Trinimac's faithful the Orsimer were transformed in what they are now because of that.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:52 am

The Orcs could be done a little better in Skyrim, but I think the were fine in Oblivion. Remember Tamriellic Orcs are elves, not brutish beasts. However, they were still a little too civilised in Oblivion.

this, tamrielic orcs were also known as corrupted elves, so they are not as dumb or aggressive as orcs from lord of the rings. still, orcs from oblivion didnt act like orcs

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:31 am

this, tamrielic orcs were also known as ~~corrupted elves~~ pariah folk, so they are not as dumb or aggressive as orcs from lord of the rings. still, orcs from oblivion didnt act like orcs

fixed. Orsimer doesn't mean corrupted elves, it means pariah folk. If anything, it's the dunmer who are closer to the definition of corrupted elves in their name.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:18 am

Don't Orcs call themselves the pig folk. I think they should be more like pigs, they way Kajits are like cats and Argonions are like lizards. Perhaps that's just me though.

Agreed. If they were pigs or pig-like i would definitely take orc as my main character.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:26 pm

hypersixed fecaloids

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:05 am

Agreed. If they were pigs or pig-like i would definitely take orc as my main character.

Did you read anything I said? The whole pig thing is just imperial propaganda during the times before the orsimer were accepted into the empire, instead of being hunted down as monsters.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:36 am

orcs shouldent be so green, and shouldent have such bad voices.

id be happy with that