I think that many people are trying to turn roleplaying games into action games. The point of a RPG, in my opinion, is to create a world that your character can LIVE in. Relationships and advertures are equally important. That doesn't mean that you need to add XXX six in the game. Being able to have companions in a game that come on an adventure with you and have the relationship component mold your story makes it for a more exciting RPG. THe relationship should be all kind, strong friendship, romance, adversery, or just economical.

I personally want to care about the world and the people that are in this virtual world in the same way you care about characters in a great film. If I don't want to care, then I play Call of Duty.

That to me is the difference between RPG and action games. In terms of six, I don't care what level it is in the game, but it should be a small side component to a whole large part of the game that provides a dynamic interaction with the characters in the world.

Uhm... you do realize that this game will most likely be rated M for Mature, right? No kids involved either way.

You didnt have to disect that entire phrase thinking it has a hidden meaning and im surprised you even found it.
Wasnt sure if you could discuss it, Keyword "Likely". second it made sense. Third this is a TES game not Dragon Age that depends on what the devs think and my guess is they arnt horny.

I wonna hier the lamentations of the women! Aaarrrrh!!

As you can see, posts have gone missing. Some inappropriate, some flaming and some just quoting those things. There is no reason this can not be discussed as long as it stays appropriate and free of flames.

Be careful though because I'm watching this one closely now. :ninja:

I think six is an important part of bringing a world to life... in more ways than one. But I'm not talking about procreation, you probably already know how that works. No, what I mean is that sixual themes give character to a world, adds depth and interest. I'm not calling for actual six scenes. That would be over the top and totally unnecessary. What I would like is for six to be an obvious part of the world - courtesans, [censored]houses in sleazier parts of town, rumors about certain characters who 'sleep around,' affairs, implied sixual partners... it shouldn't be in your face wherever you look, but it should be present as a subtle undertone.

I find it amazing how backward the media is regarding six and violence. Murder is the ultimate atrocity you can commit against another human being, and something very few people will engage in during their lifetime. six is a necessity for the survival of species, and something that almost everyone will engage in during their lifetime. So why is murder an accepted part of entertainment, with films and games dedicated to it, while six is bound to invoke a media storm wherever it features?

Well, now you know

Thread is hilarious.We can get a majority 'yes' vote for dismemberment but people get all squeamish over good old six romps in a heroic tale.

As I said over on the romance thread - six and heroism is as old as the Hero's Journey storyline itself (and that's damned old). They walk together naturally hand-in-hand. You can't read a fantasy/historical fiction book or watch a movie of the same genres without getting it. That's because It's all about characterisation and emotive involvement. Personally I'd love to see RPG's grow up in this sense and involve mature material and not shy away from it or assume their audience is a bunch of asixual nerds

Get this through your heads folks - those sort of story types are about the strength of the fictive experience of the genre, and not about dating sims or virtual pr0n

This!

there will be no six becuase there can only be 1 dovahkiin

I"m not opposed to there being prosttutes or strippers in the more seedy taverns. But I really don't have a desire to be able to hire them. For me, it doesn't fit the game but having them would surely not turn me away from this game. I don't mind nudity either but know that it's presence would prevent many people who would otherwise play this game away from it. The mindset of the USA just doesn't like nudity for some odd reason. I like keeping games like this open to the largest number of people because that spells success on a grander scale and that ensures this series continues and becomes better.

That said, I don't think adding such would improve the game in any way. So I see little reason to add it.

I do love the use of innuendo in TES however. Sometimes those subtle innuendos are much more exciting and interesting than blatant six will ever be to me. :shrug:

Totally true. TES is an Singleplayer First Person Action RPG. Note the Action. Its based around combat and Adventure. Its not a Romantic simulator, or a Life simulator.

So you want our characters to be dragon-slaying, world saving virgins?
NEVER!

Actually, while not a Life Simulator, one of the key taglines (And even on the back of the Oblivion Box) is "Live another life in another world".


Now, it's hard to go on about romantic entanglements in a game, because, as far as I know, it's generally not possible to form that kind of connection. That said, if they can find ways to make you "Care" about a particular NPC(s), it'd definitely enrich the experience, but given the nature of The Elder Scrolls titles, it's horribly unreasonable to think that, outside of main characters. There would just need to be a staggering amount of dynamic dialog to sell it.

With TES, for me, sixual innuendo, or some acknowledgment of sixual relations of one sort or another, like in books is great. It's not in your face, it's there if you look for details. A seedy bar setting with prosttutes (male or female) or dancers doing their thing as visual reference - no problem with that. I don't need my character to be able to hire a prosttute in TES, I don't need to find a quest line where ultimately I pursue a romance and end up with an NPC spouse that I leave in one of my houses while I continue my adventures. I'd enjoy flirtatious dialog although often that can be giggle-worthy, depending on the writer.

I think the romance Bioware does, in many cases, works in their games because you are with these various party members for much of the game - you get to know the character, you have a wide variety of interactions with them, so there is some more natural-feeling flow to maneuvering into an implied physical relationship. Wouldn't work in TES, the player character is always on the move, and alone except for annoying escort quests. So any "romance" would be sort of abrupt and probably pretty stilted, in the confines of a quest or something.

The six option in games actually makes me feel more attached to a character in a game like Mass Effect or DA:O, making me feel more immersed with the game world as well so i wouldnt mind if it was added in to Skyrim but i agree this doesnt seem to fit with TES.

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Wow... :facepalm: Just... just :facepalm:

Back on topic, as long as they fit the setting I don't care if they're there or not. IIRC, Morrowind hinted at them occasionally and Daggerfall had them as well. It wasn't right there in your face or anything. It was just there for (and I despise this word, but it applies here) immersion.

Romance doesn't automatically equal six dude.

For one, six with a prosttute costs less

... anyway..

Folks, number one: a role playing game is not meant to mimic life. It i merely that a game allows you choices and these choices affect the telling of the story and the outcome of the story. It is not supposed to be this fantasy world where you live through your on-screen avatar and all the choices you get in real life are available to you and you can have a family, or sweep floors, or need to eat, etc. Again, I blame James Cameron...

NOW, just like any book, or movie, or TV show, etc., video games have themes, and settings, and stories to tell based upon said themes and settings. The appropriateness of any topic (should) greatly depends on the theme and the setting of the game.
Take a game like L.A. Noire. I saw on one CF a post complaining that gamers cannot play as a female character in L.A. Noire. The lead character in L.A. Noire is a detective. Well, L.A. Noire's setting is 1940's Los Angeles. There were no female detectives back then. So certainly playing a female character makes no sense, because it is out of place within the setting of the game.

Or take a game like the Witcher, which is based on a series of books, and in the books, a big part of the story is that the lead character is a womanizer. So, the portrayal of casual six in that game makes sense.

In Skyrim, I don't think that the theme and the setting supports "romance" or "six". I don't care whether it is there or not; it is not going to make or break the game for me, but there is no good reason why. Some people will say "immersion", most mis-used word since "disrespect". "Immersion" now means "all sorts of mundane things just like real life that I see on other games".

Then it would just be Myst :tongue:

Well its supposed to be a RPG if you want your character to catch Yellow Tick from unprotected six with an argonian courtesan you should.

I really don't care either way.

im in the lets not group... i just dont need that kind of pressure.

I never could figure that game out.... :brokencomputer: