I'm a level 34 and have not given a single point to health

Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:47 pm

71 hours in and I've yet to assign any points to health. My character is level 34, using magic and archery. Most of my points are in magika as well as a few in stamina. Thus far I haven't really encountered any enemies I have too much difficulty with. My only concern as of lately are the Elder Dragons that seem to pop up everywhere I go. I was able to deal with dragons until they came around. So is anyone else in a similar position? I have 100 health at level 34 and I'm using robes so I have very little armor as well. I find it's pretty fun, makes the game exciting that's for sure.

Also I'm sure people will come into the thread and make comments on the adept difficulty, saying something like "I play on Master and I run around naked using fists, anything else is stupid and easy" to be honest I don't really care. My next character will probably be played on expert but I don't see anything wrong with adept, it definitely doesn't make the game too easy by any means. Bosses and groups of enemies are still challenging.

So am I the only one who doesn't bother with health? This came to mind when I saw people commenting that a stealth character should invest in health, which I found strange. I haven't really heavily researched the ideal character builds by any means of course, this is my first character so I'm just making him how I feel like making him. My next several characters will be quite different.
How do you guys handle your attributes? Do you think health is a necessity for any character to some extent?
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Celestine Stardust
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:48 pm

I've given my mage one point at level 18. And one in stamina. The rest in magicka. I see no real problem with my health status. Whenever I accidently step on a rune, I'm down to 5% of my health. I've died a few times, too. But mages are supposed to be weak, at least that's how I like it.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:31 pm

I've put a few points into health but then again I don't abuse the AI to avoid being hit entirely.
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Franko AlVarado
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:16 pm

I felt like I was forced to choose stamina for the first 20 levels.
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Siobhan Wallis-McRobert
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:55 pm

Same for my 27 mage, I don't think range character need to put any point into health.
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Lil Miss
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:02 pm

I've put a few points into health but then again I don't abuse the AI to avoid being hit entirely.

Mind elaborating on this?
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Emmie Cate
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:59 pm

Cool if you're having fun! I like messing around, too.

I have a level 20 mage, every point invested to magicka, she only uses robes. Well it aint easy and I got to play at Novice at the moment. Its my third or fourth character so I dont really care, its just more fun and it solves the "weak destruction spells" problem ;)

than again I love running around with my lvl 50 dragonhunter who just destroys everything on Master
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:46 pm

I've put one or two into health. Mostly it was magicka and stamina, but now that I've pretty much abandoned magic for archery, it's all about the stamina.
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Michelle Smith
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:17 pm

I've been thinking I should put more into Health but I'd rather put them into Magicka. Thanks for giving me something to think about. It's good to know I might be fine if I don't put them into Health. Some of those enemies are pretty tough but I do ok until it's 3 bandits, a wolf, 2 Spriggans and a Mudcrab all coming after me at the same time...and that just happened. :D

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Yvonne
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:37 pm

Mind elaborating on this?


Jumping up and down terrain to mess up AI pathfinding so they run back and forth or lock up entirely, that sort of thing. Even on the default difficulty you can get one shot killed with 100 health by power attacks from high end enemies, Giant Spiders, etc.
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Katie Samuel
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:56 pm

Jumping up and down terrain to mess up AI pathfinding so they run back and forth or lock up entirely, that sort of thing. Even on the default difficulty you can get one shot killed with 100 health by power attacks, Giant Spiders, etc.


Jumping up on a platform and raining down arrows is hardly "abuse". :hehe:
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Dewayne Quattlebaum
 
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:24 am

Jumping up on a platform and raining down arrows is hardly "abuse". :hehe:


It is when the NPC you're fighting is melee only and they can't jump up there with you so they just run into the bottom of the platform until they die.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:00 pm

It is when the NPC you're fighting is melee only and they can't jump up there with you so they just run into the bottom of the platform until they die.


And? That's the whole point. :P

"It's over Anikin! I have the high ground!"
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Amiee Kent
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:49 pm

And? That's the whole point. :P

"It's over Anikin! I have the high ground!"


Then the whole point for you is to exploit the enemy AI and pathfinding.
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Josh Sabatini
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:50 pm

without points in health (and quite a few I might add, even for the sneaky and mage builds) you get one shoted by most mobs post lvl 20 in master difficulty.
the AI does allow for a few terrain advantage exploitation, but that is only so in a few situations and ALL for melee, bows and magic will still one shot you, you NEED health to play on later stages (20+) of master difficulty.
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Nick Swan
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:02 am

Then the whole point for you is to exploit the enemy AI and pathfinding.


Whatever you say. I'm sure the honorable, noble, hardcoe, REAL gamer thing to do is stand there and take it like a man?

You whipper snappers. If this was Morrowind I'd Levitate above the field of battle and rain down a torrent of fire and summoned horrors.
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Nicole M
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:43 pm

I have been putting my points the first 4 or 5 levels into magika, then I put 6 into health 7 into magika and 8 into health again. I am finding this game hard. I keep dieing all the time now espically when against Boss monsters, have to turn difficulty level down to easiest setting.

Going to put more into health now, and I am only level 10 now.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:51 pm

I have put every single point into health on my Warrior/Archer hybrid.


Honestly, I don't see why you even need Stamina given the Steed stone gives you mobility and you can use Power Attacks with just 5% stamina left anyway :D
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:11 pm

Hey guys I have a question, some of you are posting that you can abuse (or "abuse ^^) the AI if you just jump on rocks. Its not like in Oblivion where they would just stand and let you shoot them, when I do this they run away! which I think is better, of course you could just jump down, lure them and get back up, but that is kinda hard at least for me because I have to let em real close before getting back up otherwise there wont be enough time for me to hit em with an arrow...once I did it i repeated it 10 times (trolls health was like 1/4 down) and i screwed up, beeing killed. So its not that easy to abuse the AI, or how do you guys do it?!
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Gill Mackin
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:58 pm

I can understand refusing to put points into health for the credit of doing so. If you change your mind you can increase the difficulty to expert and start getting some hp. My reason for this, more danger is worth it. You are a daring dragonborn and your enemies should be worthy of facing you. Or maybe you are afraid that once you increase difficulty you can never go back to adept.
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Kelly John
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:58 pm

Whatever you say. I'm sure the honorable, noble, hardcoe, REAL gamer thing to do is stand there and take it like a man?

You whipper snappers. If this was Morrowind I'd Levitate above the field of battle and rain down a torrent of fire and summoned horrors.


You're the one trying to make yourself feel legit when you exploit pathfinding. Why are you trying to turn it on me? Lol. Did you think it was your skill making the enemy run round the room endlessly?
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Sasha Brown
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:10 pm

A Pure Mage is one of those characters you dont need to put much health into for a while. at least i wouldnt put any levels into health, untill i felt badass enough conjering up the creature i liked & spit out a good amount of spells to do a great deal of damage first. So i'd pump everything into Magicka until then, and use Oakflesh if needed.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:27 pm

Level 44 Orc with 75% of the points put into HP and 25% of it into stamina. Running with the Steed Stone ability w/ heavy armor. Then again this guy is up in your face, being a boss. Shrugs off anything even on Adept to the higher difficulty, especially with his racial in critical moments.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:58 pm

I have put every single point into health on my Warrior/Archer hybrid.


Honestly, I don't see why you even need Stamina given the Steed stone gives you mobility and you can use Power Attacks with just 5% stamina left anyway :D


larger stamina pools help alot on bashing/blocking, sniper zoom/time slow times, sprint charges and standing power attacks, a warrior can 1v1 without stamina nicely because blocking is the best defence and doesnt require it, but wehn flanked and engaged by multiples, he will need his stamina alot for multiple bashes and power attacks to get mobs down quicker.

ofc ideally is having stamina regen (light armor ftw) so you can invest more into health and even mana (if you have a bit of resto that can also restore stamina)
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Mark
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:49 pm

I was around level 30 when I started putting my health up I think. My poor mage just couldn't handle the mobs like he used to.
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