I don't see the point if it's still going to put level 1s against level 45s - it doesn't achieve the "hand holding" effect that keeps inexperienced safe, it only makes dungeons lock at lower levels if you go there early, reducing their potential to provide challenge and worth-while loot later on. So why bother making our level have any effect on the dungeon at all? It's completely pointless. They should just make these dungeons a set level range of environment appropriate NPCs/creatures with no relation to your character's level.

Nice. gamesas has found a new way to ruin a game. I thought they did their best with Oblivion already.

I've been away for over a year and I just found out that Skyrim will be the next game when?

The forum also looks really ugly now!

I'd rather have dungeons that doesn't level at all.

You do realize Morrowind had this too? It worked fine, calm down.

I didn't realize you guys were from GI and you have already seen the game in action <_<

Seriously, how many times must this be said. Don't complain about a game until you have actually played it. Skyrim might svck, but it might be the best Elder scrolls game of all time! Who knows yet, how about you wait until you at least see the game in action until you complain about a feature that is much better than oblivion level scaling anyway.

I agree! Gotta love stealth missions

Because we know exactly what the feature does?

We don't have to play the game to understand how this particular feature will work and deduce that we won't like it.

Sorry posting much but.... This! Way to put it mr. Dovahkiin!

Maybe:
4) The Q is scaled to the area it's set in, and tailored to your thiefy ways with a particular target of someone you know.

It will be no different than all other games out there I think. You'll encounter the easy foes around the place you start out in the game. There will be the low level dungeons to allow us to gain strength.
If you'll head deep into the wilderness you will get your ass handed to you in a similair fashion as Morrowind did.

Edit: I agree with KCat. Nowhere it says that the RQuests are scaled to your level. It's tailored to your character, actions and evilness. Which is great!

Are the level ranges for dungeons confirmed? Anyone got a source for that? I've no reason to doubt any of the posters who mentioned it, but I can't remember reading about that specifically.

If the dungeons are scaled within level ranges and locked after the first time they're visited, then that's fantastic.

Actually, you do. How do you know the guys who wrote the article on this weren't doing the best job of describing it? Plus you haven't freaking seen the game in action yet! What if there was a lot more to this feature? Plus its better than Oblivion level scaling already. Didn't we want better than oblivion? Stop complaining.

where did you read that? that makes alot more sense to me actually. mean we can still enter dungeons that are beyond our level

I remember reading about it and I'm looking for the source... In the mean time I tweeted Pete, so hopefully I can be lazy and just link his confirmation. ^_^

I really hope the Radiant Stupidity has been improved since Oblivion at least.



Morrowind. There's no hope of ever getting something like that in the future!



Based on our experiences with TES IV, do you really think there is going to be anything with minimum level above 20? No!



Yeah, that's the solution to everything. Except proper gaming!



And the 2010s gamers are a joke. They want easy games to advance fast and not have to think.



This really sounds like they took the worst of Morrowind and the worst of Oblivion.



Not a chance. Proper gamers are a small minority. The paying majority want something they can run through, because they are low on time and this came from BS themselves after complaints of Oblivion.

There's no way that was a serious post. I mean really, "proper" gamers?

I'm all for a selection of the 3, variation is the key to preventing boredom. How many dungeons do we have to play in?

Uhm excuse me? This game is being made for a level 1-50 scale. Go read the Game Informer Skyrim issue.

It could be done better , each creature / NPC to have a set level and just populate the dungeons with different creatures or add more of them .
Do you remember freeing village from bandits in mount and blade? 10 looters in leve 1 , 85 looters in level 60 and all of them level 5

Fallout 3 did this and it worked pretty well, as I understand dungeons has upper and lower cap on enemies so low level dungeons is probably 1-8, medium level is 6-15, high level is 13-21, and 18-30

Now if you enter a dungeon at level 1 it will stay at level 1 however you will not stay level 1 forever only 1-2 dungeons and if you visit a medium dungeon it will lock at level 6.

My only concern is respawning, oblivion was to fast here, and Morrowind mostly had none respawning expect special areas where it was way to fast.
I might prefer that a previous visited dungeons you cleared out is repopulated after a couple of weeks with higher level enemies, but the map look like it should be big enough.
One weakness in fallout 3 was that it was better to farm spawn points than revisiting enemy bases, fast travel to the location for the nuke cola challenge, go north and get another gatling laser for spare parts as it was no other reliable ways to get it.

Heh. Maybe I'm not entirely serious, but I mean hard-core RPG gamers as opposed to people who like FPS and action adventure games like Oblivion was.



Excuse me? In Morrowind locations did not respawn, so it's not even possible that Morrowind "level-range-locking" scheme.



We have the right to complain. Also, in Oblivion you also could level up to 50, but the loot stopped leveling up around 20-25, so we'll see how it goes...

Is there any Real confirmation that dungeons will be level locked?

I've not read that in any of the articles, maybe I'm just missing the link?

I would hate to see another wild speculation thread spinning everyone up over false rumors...

Maybe this is where I get it from. They did say they were using a system closer to Fallout 3, and seeing as how that's how it was in Fallout 3.... There you go. Case solved.

edit* @Fooman, yes, the loot stopped at around 25 in Oblivion, but keep in mind Skyrim is being made with the idea of 1-50. 50 being the level you hit the soft cap and any level after that does not reward you with a choice of perk.

The one really good bit of news about the scaling is random outdoor encounters. You can still meet lower level enemies like imps at higher levels, but there will be two of them. Seems instead of bandits wearing daedric and glass, they will just outnumber you. Got to be a good thing.

Where did you get this information from?