Leveling up Speech

Post » Tue May 14, 2013 4:00 am

Is there an easier way to level up speech now that the riften speech loop is gone?

I find this skill takes toooooooooooooooooooooooooo long to level normally

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Wane Peters
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 12:33 pm

If you have Hearthfire, Salmoe Roe waterbreathing potions are a good option. Even if you sell them for 0 Gold because the vendor has run out, you still gain Speech Skill.

That said, it'll still take a long time, my advice is just to not worry about it. The best way to "Skill Up" in Skyrim, is to completely forget about skills and just play naturally, at least until you've mastered your primary skills. (This is actually true of all the ES games since Morrowind)

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Sheila Reyes
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 3:50 pm

I just do the Bards' quests and pay for training (it's not as though they are much use for anything else after the three fetch quests).

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Mark Hepworth
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 9:09 am

Speech is useless anyway so why bother.

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Stat Wrecker
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 12:18 pm

Its extremely useful especially for a Alchemist player- access to very rare ingredients.

I want to make a dedicated alcemist ranger type

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LijLuva
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 7:58 am

Speech / Mercentile has always been a pain to level... All the way since Morrowind. :wacko:

That's why I never choose it.

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Lalla Vu
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 3:41 pm

In oblivion i just used Mercentile as a major skill and sold iron arrows individually to merchants. It leveled up at a nice steady rate actually.

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Karen anwyn Green
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 4:11 am


I remember when I first played oblivion and I was selling everything in bulk and wondering why mercantile was taking forever to level, until a friend told me otherwise :)
In skyrim, it's all about value (I think lol). :)
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Sanctum
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 12:55 pm

If you consider saving heafty amounts of gold at times useless then i guess it is :/

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Cccurly
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 3:52 am

The only two ways of leveling up speech now is either pay for training, or sell everything you come across.

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Allison Sizemore
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 5:58 am

Draugr Deathlords and their ebony weapons are great for this.

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JLG
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 2:54 am

Seriously the game gives you too much gold as it is not many people are going to care if they lose money unless they are at a low level and want a house

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Lisa Robb
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 3:09 pm

Exactly, but even normal enemies will do. I sell all the bog standard bandits gear, you don't get much gold but every little helps :P

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Lil Miss
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 12:37 pm

Some of us are cheap :wink:

You also gotta remember that I'm an Imperial and we love us some gold.

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Rach B
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 4:52 pm

The speech gain from sales even if mercant is out of money is true for all items but you notice it more on very expensive things.

An agree with the play naturaly in Skyrim not in Oblivion.

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RAww DInsaww
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 2:24 am

Best way to level speech... Buy and sell. The more valuable the transaction, the more experience you get.

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Michael Russ
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 2:42 am

Speech has nothing to do with this, though. The overall level of the player will dictate if the shop carries those rarer ingredients, and it makes sense since most enemies that carry them don't show up until the appropriate level is attained.

Moreso, you've also uncovered your own solution, alchemist. ;)

Don't lug heavy armor and weapons around to sell. Make poisons, and lots of them. They're lighter and you can sell them in more places than you can other gear, especially helpful if you don't have the perk to allow shops to buy everything.

In addition, you can walk into any potion shop, buy the cheap ingredients, craft them into potions/poisons in their own shop, and sell them back. If you do this well enough, you should be able to cycle their entire inventory, walk away with some gold in your pocket, as well as improve the Speech level.

For shops that buy potions, you may have to run about to an alchemist table, but it's the price you'll pay to game the Speech level.

I concur with others: Speech is a pointless skill in this game. If you're an alchemist looking for rare ingredients, best get out there and kill for them, because that's still the best way to acquire them. Shop inventory is far too random to be reliable.

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vanuza
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 6:02 am

Actually speech can open up some extra dialogue in a few quests but I do wish it did more.

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Klaire
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 3:46 pm

If I have room, I always pick up food to sell to the inn-keepers and shop owners.

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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 5:56 pm


Considering how you get enough gold that you could bribe Al to postpone his apocalypse, yes it is :hehe:

Though i have a mod that includes shout perks in the speech tree, which makes it pretty useful :wink:
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 5:06 pm

Use the fortify restoration glitch to make a potion that is worth several hundred thousand gold and then sell it. That will get your speech up really quick. A value of 1.5 million gold will instantly raise it to 100.

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Queen
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 6:36 am

can you remind me what the resto glitch is again please?

and will it work with this latest patch?

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Cat Haines
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 12:38 pm

Actually, it does due to a bug:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Speech#Skill_Perks

I think certain alchemy ingredients were missing the proper keyword to allow them to be bought and/or sold by alchemy vendors, despite the fact that they appear on the leveled lists that the vendors draw their inventory from.

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Lance Vannortwick
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 4:47 am

Yes this!

My old character has 20 powdered mammoth tusks and 28 daedra hearts bought legitimately (amongst other very rare ingrediaents) with 'merchant' perk via speechcraft tree. I have firsthand exp. that speechcraft tree is very useful for my playstyle.

I want to level up my speechcraft again for my new character but riften loop has been patched :(

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Makenna Nomad
 
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Post » Tue May 14, 2013 1:20 pm

It was never patched by official patches. Link explaining how to perform it http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Glitches#Infinitely_Powerful_Items.

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