I disagree about Conjuration. I think it depends on whether one is challange gaming or sincerely roleplaying. For my part, I only occassionally summoned for help in battle. Aside from providing a distraction, there wasn't anything any summons could do for me that I couldn't do for myself anyway. I summoned just for the pleasure of knowing I could call a Dremora or a Golden Saint into Nirn and have them accompany me, and have others look on in wonder and in slight fear. I sometimes did it as a practical lesson for aspiring mages at The University and the guilds. I would have LOVED it if the summoned beings interacted more, as I would certainly have questioned Dremora and Aureal about Oblivion, and the relations among the Daedric Peoples and races etc.

Thank you kind sir. And I very much agree about the dummy targets. I feel like "grinding" is a deragatory term for what essentially amounts to intense training. One can Train in a very roleplay friendly way, and under those circumstances, I don't see it as an exploit.

I loved leveling up magic.

Make a charm or healing spell with 100 feet area, get some potions and cast at all the sleeping blades. I might be the only one but I sure hope it's that easy in Skyrim heheh

This is probably asking for too much but, I would really like enchanted weapons to extend their magic beyond just their statistical fire, shock, etc. attributes, while using other elements as well.

An example. Let's say you have a sword and air is an enchant-able element, when a certain attack combination is used each enchanted weapon have "special" abilities, and in the case of element air the sword will actually throw an air projectile in the angle of your swing. So imagine a crescent-shaped projectile made entirely of air hurled at enemies. Or, just for arguments sake, let's say your sword is enchanted with fire, it's special ability would be incineration of your opponent. Or for shock, an highly concentrated electrical burst on contact capable of throwing an armored enemy would be it's special ability.

Any thoughts?

I agree with you except for the healing spell part. You could just walk off a small cliff to hurt yourself and heal up. Rinse and repeat .

I'd like spell failures to return, but that might not go over to well with others :stare:

Let me emphasize that I would never presume to tell the Skyrim devs how to do their job, so whatever choices they make regarding the leveling process, I will either live with them or install a mod.

Also, I completely agree that any player performing repetitive spell casting is making a conscious choice to level the appropriate skill in this way. Those players are making a choice to engage in repetitive activities, when they could just as easily choose not to do so, this is true. They choose to do this because they enjoy carefully planning their character build and using the legitimate methods available in-game to increase those skills.

My point was simply that many players find it enjoyable and fulfilling to legitimately reach a higher level in Alteration, for example, and at the same time find repetitive activities which raise Alteration in the most efficient and quick way (without using console commands), to be not enjoyable.

In Oblivion, it strikes me as a bit odd that some skills are raised through activities which are enjoyable, such as Archery, Blade, Armor, Destruction; while other activities are raised most efficiently through activities that are not enjoyable (for many of us).




Yes, I have absolutely no idea which specific changes the devs will implement, beyond removing the Unlock spell loophole, and I do think it is unlikely that the devs will remove all of them.




I like the RP concept you developed for your training process, and it seems clear that you have come up with a cool way to enjoy even the repetitive spell casting activities.