Honestly...level scaling, if handled correctly, can really add to the game. Non-scaling is awesome too, but it also has it's draw backs. Like 1 hit killing everything after a certain level. Most people here will say "Yes! That's what we want...". But those are the same people who, after completing the game, complain about how easy the game is...them ask for difficulty mods.

So I'm on the same boat as you...both are good. I belive both have cons as well, no system is perfect.

It's confirmed to have Fallout 3 style level scaling, not Oblivion style. So any dungeon you entered previously stays at that level.

About no level scaling, who wants a level 50 dragon stalking you at the very beginning of the game?

It's confirmed to have Fallout 3 style level scaling, not Oblivion style. So any dungeon you entered previously stays at that level.

I haven't played FO3 yet. I own it, but it sits there atm. Can someone expain how this works? Is it player controlled? Like say I do not enter any dundeons untill I'm level 30...will dungeons be a min of level 30 then? Or are the dungeons have a reccomened level? Like said dungeon 5-7...you can come back, but all you get is level 7 monsters...?

The first important change is that creatures never scale up in abilities to match your level, so each Deathclaw in F3 will always have the same attributes, regardless of your character’s level when you have the misfortune of encountering it.

Second, each territory in the game is now assigned an encounter level that determines the level and equipment of critters when you discover that area, so a first-level character that wanders into an area designated as “encounter level 5″ will be badly outmatched by the inhabitants. Loot is also generally scaled to the area’s encounter level, but some item items will be hand-placed, which is similar to how Morrowind handled loot.
An area’s level doesn’t remain static, but it gets locked as soon as you enter it. If you enter a city block designated as a level 5 area, it will remain a level 5 area and never scale up in difficulty. Areas you haven’t yet encountered do “tether up” in difficulty level, but the tethering level doesn’t linearly scale with your level, so there’s still an advantage to gaining experience levels.

The city block that’s initially designated as a level 5 area will tether up and be designated as a level8 area if you don’t wander into it until you’re a level 15 character. But since an area’s level is locked once you enter it, you’ll still get the satisfaction of returning to a previously difficult area and annihilating its residents once you have a more powerful character.
Bethesda’s still tweaking these systems, but they should make exploration more interesting and not diminish the regard for advancement by making you feel like you can never really get ahead. I’d still prefer a static world like Gothic’s, where encounters are always consistent regardless of your character level, but this toned-down scaling system sounds like a huge improvement over Oblivions.

http://fallout3.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/desslock-explains-level-scaling-on-fallout-3/

It's a good system in my opinion, but for the die hard fans it's a bad system because they want to get very strong in a short time so that they already have some of the best armor and weapons early in the game! But LS keeps the game fair and funny, so i choose for level scaling.

Exactly. I think the biggest issue with Oblivion was after a certain level you just outscaled the monsters, and it became too easy. But that's not a problem with too much level scaling, that's too little.

Weird I thought the biggest issue with oblivion were the daedric armored mauaders and glass wearing bandits. I suppose I am progressing why shouldn't anyone else. Or somthing along those lines anyway... Reguardless I'm going to have to disagree with both you and the OP. I enjoy having unique and rare items as much as I enjoy a brutal world that is difficult to survive in when I am weak.

Level scaling is successful when the player doesn't notice it. Regarding Bethesda RPGs, I didn't notice it it Morrowind or Daggerfall, but I noticed it in Oblivion and Fallout 3. They need to mimic what Obsidian did in New Vegas, since that system felt like a huge improvement over Bethesda's recent offerings.

I HATE level scaling!!!

HATE!!!

Its one thing for some more challenging quests or enemies to appear after a curtain point, it’s another for every scumbag bandit to be leveled and decked out in glass armor so I can get bored spamming the attack button before I have to repair my sword after every stupid little encounter.

That’s not chalanging. That’s boring.

And having enemies at the beginning that you can’t step too yet is awesome. That’s how it should be done. After you grow more powerful, those two bit bandits are nothing to you. You kill them quick and feel like a bad ass. Now you’re ready to move in on those guys that you couldn’t mess with earlier.

Just beefing up old enemies is a boring cop out. (If you ask me)

About no level scaling, who wants a level 50 dragon stalking you at the very beginning of the game?

>>plays the oblivion mod nehrim.

Yep thats how it should be done. No scaling but level zones and the games quests are engineered so you progress in a path that well...so you not fighting a lvl 50 at lvl 8, unless your an idiot and decide to venture into the forest of total doom at lvl 8 thats YOUR CHOICE BRO, and games shouldn't be made easy b/c of the stupid choices of the player.