Is it likely the Shaun survives the events in Vault 111...

Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:53 am

Which is exactly why I said it "will make for an absolutely [censored] ridiculous story." I can really only accept either: a) they didn't get to a pod and died when the bombs fell, or: b ) died inside the pods (or possibly during whatever event that makes our character the vault's 'Sole Survivor')...

The old "hey you're the Sole Survivor (emphasis on both Sole and Survivor) of whatever-happens-to-Vault-111-and-its-inhabitants... but wait, the son you only knew as a baby miraculously but conveniently survived and somehow left the vault a little while ago!" is just the kind of ridiculous [censored] story we can probably expect, which I am not at all excited about. :confused:

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Vicky Keeler
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:20 am


I agree once again. If they try to guilt trip the PC (if the PC is rolled as a good person), I'm going to punch Shaun in the face. I mean, wow, excuse my PC for being stuck in a pod for 200 years following a war he/she could not possibly have averted even if he/she had wanted to. It wasn't like the PC just walked away from the family because **** responsibilities.

As for the family, same feelings here. It's the BOND that's developed, not blood relation that defines a family. Yet they seem to being going the old route of "You should care about these two people because you're related to them by marriage and blood respectively. Even though you've only known them for five minutes. See how close you should-OH NOES!! A WAR JUST HAPPENED AND IT DESTROYED THE PEACEFUL LIFE THAT YOU HAVE AND THE FUTURE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD!! SORROW!! TRAGEDY!! WOE!!!"

That's what I'm afraid of too. I also fear that Shaun will be another embittered son who hates daddy-dearest because he "was never there for [me] and Mom." As I said above, if he does that, I'm punching him in the face. Double if he turns out to be the villain. 'Cause literally none of this was Howard/Nora's fault! Any 'daddy-issues' Shaun may have will be from his own warped feelings.

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Charity Hughes
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:27 pm

As I mentioned before, I'm pretty sure the player is called the "Sole Survivor", not because they are the last survivor of Vault 111, but because they are the last survivor of the Old World. I'm fairly positive the player's knowledge of the Old World is going to play some plot critical point.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:16 am

If Shaun is embittered, it could be because you abandon him and your spouse to their fate while you save your own cowardly skin by rushing to comfort and safety of a vault, where you get to live fat and happy. Bad, bad things happen to your spouse and son on the outside, and you never once bother to come look for them -- not for 200 years anyway. Leaving them behind was a rotten thing for you to do. Shame on you. :stare:

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Nicole Mark
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:32 pm

in case Shaun survives.. And I spend the entire game looking for him.. Just like dad in FO:3.. My eyes will roll so hard I might just have them pop out of my head. :yuck:

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Laura
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:27 pm


A text box in the top corner appears "sunglasses equipped"
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vicki kitterman
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:59 pm

Questionable morals always makes for a good story.

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Katie Louise Ingram
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VRwiU4oSHM
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:43 pm

I suspect that the spouse is dead, and that you will find evidence of this fairly quickly. Otherwise, the companion romance options make very little sense. The Main Character is designed to be (at least for Canon purposes) in love/faithful to their spouse - otherwise, why would they wear their wedding ring? It's not like wearing it is gonna make them more desirable in post-apocalyptia. The child, I believe, will survive, in some fashion. I have a couple of theories:

1) The Vault is "full". In the intro video, the Main Character asks if there is enough room for his family and is assured that there is. This may (and I say *may*) indicate that there really isn't. They get there and only the MC is let in (he's a Veteran, after all). The family will be "transported to a different nearby vault". Or so the MC is told. Perhaps he finds the van they were in abandoned on the road near his Vault with no sign of his family. This would lead him to speculate that they may still be alive, once he sees that Codsworth survived. What actually happened? Who knows? Perhaps they were placed in Cryo as some suggest.

2) The radiation blast "kills" the spouse and child - or so it appears. The MC is rushed down into the Vault and placed in Cryo to be treated for severe radiation poisoning. Meanwhile, the spouse may, or may not be dead, but the child lives on - as a Ghoul.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. But somehow the MC needs to find evidence that at least his spouse did not survive for the romance arcs to make much sense. A spouse who continues to wear a wedding ring, either wears it in memory of a loved one, and removes it once they finally move on with someone else, or they wear it in hopes of finding their missing spouse. If the MC does believe others (his family) could have survived, then something has to remove hope of finding his spouse for him to be able to move on in a realistic way (in my opinion).

I do think that the generation of the child is more effort than what is necessary if it is just a "throw-away" set-up piece. Even in Character Creation, creating the spouse at least gets an opposite-gender character sculpted so that, should you decide to play the other gender (and perhaps they have data that suggests enough people like to do that to put in the ability to do so), your other character is ready to go. But the baby just doesn't make sense to me. Now, whether the child is a villain, a future companion, or something else, I am not sure. But it will greatly surprise me if the child is not used in any other way besides to be killed, along with the spouse.

(I have not read all of the previous posts, so forgive me if I have re-posted what others have already said).

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Lillian Cawfield
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:04 pm

Is it cheating if you believe your better half is dead?
They don't have to actually be dead, it only needs to be implied.
Likewise, if your spouse is still alive, they might think the same of you and shack up with someone else.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:29 am

This.

My fantasy plot set-up is that you only think you’re the sole survivor and through the course of the main story you encounter your spouse in the wasteland with a five or six year old Shaun and a ‘new’ significant other. For me, it would add a new sense of dramatic tension that I haven’t encountered in a game. I’m not saying that this is the first game where you had a spouse and had to deal with things that married people have to deal with, but it would be the first such game for me.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:51 pm

That's the thing, according to the trailer, the MC states that "other people might be alive too" - this, I believe, is in reference to his wife and/or child. Thus, setting up the cheating scenario. If my belief is incorrect, then my theory goes out the window. Otherwise, the MC needs to find some evidence that the spouse, at least, is dead, in order to move on.

Note: The spouse doesn't actually have to BE dead, just believed to be.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:51 pm

Yes and then Codsworth says "You are having hunger hallucinations. Let me feed you."

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Emily Martell
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:58 am

the boy and the wife will be brain's in jars

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:19 pm

He's dead, Jim

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:12 pm

If the PC thought the spouse was actually alive, sure that would be cheating. But... Would that particular PC care?

My guess is that we are given some information or even misinformation that gives the implication, allowing us to make the call.

By all means we could have a character like Perrin Aybara, who will search unrelentingly until they are reunited or their body is found.
Or one that believes their family dead, but also considers it dishonorable to take another partner, the only remaining emotions- sorrow and vengeance.
But we could just as easily have a character build who was thinking of leaving their wife, anyway.
Or one that is damaged from the events and decides to move on for closure- regardless of whether they feel they are alive or not.


None of this speaks to whether the PC's family, or any portion of it, is actually still alive.


It's all optional based on the dictates of our PC's personality.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:05 am

I really doubt that Shaun or Nora/Howard are going to play a extremely significant role in the story. Like to the point of being the main villain or something. That's just really cliche, and not really what I expect from Bethesda.

I think their main purpose is to provide a few human faces to the world before, serving as a emotional tug when you are exiting the vault and find their remains from whatever "events transpire" that happen in the vault. It would be something that I don't think a lot of gamers would expect. Getting acquainted with the pre-war world only to have everyone you got to know during the intro die and then have yourself get thrust into a hostile and alien world which has the hollowed out shell of that world you used to know sitting right outside the vault.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:42 am


There is literally zero evidence that this is true. Do not spread lies.
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Louise Dennis
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:17 pm

I hope they aren't {i}the[/i] main antagonists, either.
I also hope there isn't a singular end game antagonist, either.

I think there is enough room for them to head an opposing faction, or at least be deeply embroiled in it.
And hopefully that would also depend upon who you oppose/opposes you.

From there, we can duke it out/Join them/Extricate them.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:08 am

Only Codsworth is confirmed. Watch the vids dude.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:04 am

Sole Survivor vs. Son...

Like Grey Fox/Big Boss vs. Solid Snake...Alone on the battlefield...One will die...the other inherits a lifetime of conflict and strife...

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Stu Clarke
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:40 am

In the E3 Showcase Todd Howard states, "You heard Codsworth say my name. That isn't for the demo. We actually have recorded around a thousand of the most popular names for him to say."

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Ross
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:18 pm

Makes me think of the movie Castaway.
Dude survives all of that- the thought of his lady keeping him going all that time. But his lady moved on. Thems some bitter apples.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:57 pm

having your son be an elderly man would be interesting, even more so if it was the elder of one of the towns in the game. he could even withold the information from you at first, showing you tattered vault rags and lying to you saying your family is long dead, perhaps to spare you and himself of telling you what he and his mother/father had to go through. then later in the game you could find out that he was indeed your son.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:33 am



No, it has been confirmed that Codsworth does, but it has not been confirmed anywhere that no one else does.


Never does anyone from BGS say only Codsworth can say your name.

That might end up being the case. But until it is confirmed, you are just spreading misinformation.
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