A list of things one should know for a second playthrough?

Post » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:39 pm

I was getting near the end of my journey with my main character, and had thought about starting a new character, and "doing everything right" this time around. Now, what I mean by this thread, is that I was wondering what things you, the community, know of, that would be helpful for a second playthrough. Here's an example of what I mean: Paladin Brandis, holds the only obtainable suit of jet black Brotherhood of Steel (uniform) body armor. The only catch to this, is that he only wears it while not on-board of the Prydwen. This is only during 3 missions in the entire game, two of which, you must be hostile towards the brotherhood to trigger, so you either have to kill him during the first mission that he appears, or have pickpocket maxed out to take it from him before sending him back to the Prydwen.


I'm looking for things like that, that you may know of. Things to keep in mind like that, like the fact that you can actually reach a default level of 11 in your s.p.e.c.i.a.l. stats, by getting them to 10, before picking up their respective bobbleheads. There's plenty of examples like this, that you would not know the first time through, and once you've done the "wrong" thing. There's no going back. (On console, or without cheating on PC.) I've been trying to make a list for my second playthrough, so I know what quests can glitch, what items to take and not take/destroy. (Like accidently picking up the Buttercup toy parts from the Atomatoy factory, and using them scrap for settlement building without knowing what they are, not letting you complete Alren Glass' quest.) or the fact that I can run through Desdemona's options when I first meet her until it triggers a special scene where she lets you take the designation of "Wanderer." Which doesn't show up unless you insist she names you. I was stuck with something silly in my first playthrough. Everyone talks about me being a wanderer, and makes multiple mentions about it, but my designation was something silly like tweaker or something, even though I never used drugs, lol.


?So what about you guys and gals? What kind of things do you know of that I should be aware of when playing for the second time? Any special quest rewards that can only be gotten once, in a very specific way? etc. Any known buggy quests that I should be aware of to complete at a certain time? (sometimes level/question completion can bug other quests)

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Tina Tupou
 
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Post » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:16 am


Not true.


As you reach the part of the game where BoS vertibirds attack foes and go down in flames,


carefully check bodies....



The black jumpsuit has the same title as the orange one, so check them carefully.

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Hella Beast
 
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Post » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:46 am


That is not the one he is referring to. The 'jet black' one is the BOS Officer jumpsuit which is essentially what Maxon wears underneath his coat.



http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/BOS_uniform

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Jessica Lloyd
 
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Post » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:17 am


Fair enough.


I thought the dark grey one was it...



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87106516/blackjump.png



Good enough for me not to be the orange 'prison-wear'...

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GLOW...
 
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Post » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:22 am

I find the colors to be very limited, I actually find the uniform to look best in white, personally.



http://imgur.com/3o7nWAH



Yeah, only Clark and Brandis have unique colors, grey and orange can be bought from Proctor Teagan.



Doing things out of orders may give you different quests.



If you don't join the Railroad, the Institute will offer a unique quest that allow you to shape to future of the Institute toward pro-synth stance. You can only get a special pair of glasses if you do a pro-synth choice in that quest that can't be obtained anywhere else. It gives you 2 intelligence, so it's very good for leveling up combining with other items.



If you go to Goodneighbor and Diamond City right away, scenes will play out differently, and you get a special quest at the Memory Den.



During Lost Patrol, bring Danse along and he has a lot of stuffs to say. It's basically one of his "personal" quests in a way.



During Danse's first encounter where you go to Jetarc, you can get Junk Jet in there.

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Post » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:57 pm

I for one won't be taking any weapon modding perks since you can find all the mods you need by looting and rip them off those weapons and attach them to any weapon you want. I wasn't going to do that the first time around but ended up doing it anyway just so I could get a little faster access to them. Armor modding is a little more necessary as finding those mods is a bit more difficult.. It's hard to tell what mods are on armor until you examine it. Guns you can look at and see what's different about them.



Hopefully the story will make more sense the second time through... The whole thing felt like a confusing jumbled mess. I feel like I skipped major details that tied everything together. I must have said "huh?.. why? What's going on?" more times in this game than any other game in my life.


"Hey, you're my son!.. that's great, it's great to finally have found you. You want me to go kill people for you? What kind of stupid son are you?" "I'm not going to do that.. I'm going to leave.. and have to come back and destroy you even though that makes no sense.. and hey, now you're sick?.. How'd you get sick?" "Huh? Why? ..What's going on?"

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Post » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:50 am

Is there any point to make your specials 11 with bobbleheads since you can always boost them with clothes and chems? It seems to me like a waste. I think there is a cap anyway, so boosting it higher than some cetain number can be useless.

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Oyuki Manson Lavey
 
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Post » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:32 pm

There is no cap. You can only get up to 10, but any point beyond 10 still counts, there is no diminishing of return either. The more points you have, the powerful you are. On PC, I tried modifying the number and it changes the game completely with just a few numbers. You can boost with items, but you can boost them on top of items with higher number.

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Post » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:03 pm

Interesting. I`ve tried, but for some unknown reason it did not work the way I expected. May be it was a bug with some certain items/clothes then. I used clothes and legendary armor pieces to boost charisma to 24. But I could not have more than 22 settlers in one settlement. I also did not find any dialogs where you need it to be higher than 11-12 to pass the check.

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Peter P Canning
 
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Post » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:04 am

I have around 20 charisma, and my settlement in Santuary get over 30 people. I need to turn off the recruitment or else they'd keep coming. I don't remember any dialogues that need more than 10, but I tried and each stat did increase it a lot. I tried 30 endurance, and I don't even need any armor, I could the entire BoS all day. Not sure what happen to you but maybe you got a glitch or something.

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Emma Pennington
 
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Post » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:24 pm

Oh, sorry I said it wrong :). I meant 14.

So I should have got 24 settlers. But it did not work, may be it was really a bug. But I once got a lot of settlers because of another bug :D. You know, when you are not in the settlement, numbers can get messed up, so your pipboy shows you 5 settlers instead of 15. And it not only shows it wrong, the game really thinks they are like this. It makes it possible to get a lot more settlers than your charisma allows you. So leaving the radio beacon on can lead ro overpopulation very easy. I did not use it to get more settlers , just accidently noticed that.

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Post » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:07 pm

Forgotten to do it twice in a row and finally did it this time - before finishing either Lost Patrol or Blind Betrayal, make sure you have your +CHA clothes and graqe mentats with you, and save before any of those conversations. So many checks and single points of failure. And Danse's perk is pretty awesome, since it covers many of your common foes.


Until you know you can one shot kill an entire room full of bad guys in one VATS salvo, don't try to save Kent Connolly. You'll probably fail, and he's the only way to get the fully upgraded Silver Shroud costume. Personally, I'd wait until level 45, which would be the earliest level for the max upgraded costume anyway.


Get Piper as early as possible, then clear out the Super Duper Mart with her, then lock/unlock the safe in the manager's office until she idolizes you. It's free exp for the rest of the game, and can end up being as much as ~7k extra just for location discoveries. Speech checks just add to the bonus. The earlier you do that, the better it pays off.


Start any melee character off with STR 11 by going right to Concord, 2nd floor of Concord Speakeasy, get the Day Tripper. Go back to your house in Sanctuary, eat the day tripper and use You're SPECIAL to raise STR to 11. Bobblehead will then raise to 12. That's 10% extra melee dmg forever by doing drugs before reading a magazine.


A level 1 character with the 10mm from Vault 111 can make it to Greentop, Slog/Finch and Abernathy. If you do that early, you have all the corn, mutfruit, tato you need. Since they are the only three crops that really matter, why not start life off growing the right food and not wasting time.


Don't use whiskey for anything but graqe mentats. Ever.


Those are some of the "don't goof this up or you might regret it later" points I've figured out.
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Tai Scott
 
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Post » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:39 pm


This is what we call "The hard way". Easier way: antagonize whatshisface. During his dialog, save the game. An option will come up that allows you to draw out a "one-on-one" with him, which saves Kent from being shot. Having CHR 5+ (and Black Widow ranks as female) makes this an "everyone walks away but the bad guys" moment.


:)



As for the topic at hand, I really can't think of anything. I haven't seen anything change much in rewards, but rather what I've been finding. With lower levels of fast travel, I'm finding stuff I never saw in my first play through.



Damn settlement building. ;)

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