In the reactor footage, the player was able to take people down with 2-3 blasts at a fairly decent range, with the ability to take cover between shots. You're definitely going to want a medium range gun to pair it with, but it seems like it succeeds in giving you short range dominance.

Exellent. No 1 hit kills sounds great!

I am assuming that all guns are based off of modern ones, but with a futuristic twist, it has also been confirmed in a dev diary that each side will have slight variations of guns such as, securitys guns are cleaner and sound like they work better, resestance guns look like they have been handed down, or scavenged

That's true, but its important to point out that both sides will be identical as far as stats go, the differences are only cosmetic.

Ive seen lots of current guns with slight redesigns for the game

Barret .50 cal
UMP .45
SCAR
Steyer TMP
KrisSV (Uneducated Infinity Ward calls it a Vector)
CAR-15
Minigun

And others. Some of the gun names are variations on real gun names, so from looking at the first reply we can tell that the Dragunov and Mossberg-500 will be in the game, alongside many other genre standards.

The gun that's named "Drognav Light Rifle" looked more like a Cheytac Intervention to me though. So, I'm not sure if you should take all of the names totally literally, although for the most part they seem to reflect the spirit of the gun.

And the "Kriss Super V" is the name of the anti-recoil system that TDI has developed, they are currently adapting it to a .50 Machine Gun, and most likely other weapons. "Vector" is the name of the actual SMG, but considering it's full name is the "Kriss Super V Vector SMG" and no other weapons have the "Kriss Super V" title as of yet, its an easy mistake to make. But "TDI Vector" is a more accurate name than "Kriss V"

My bad on that one.

As a reply to the sniper rifle thing, I dont know where I saw it but there was a dev diary in which they discussed sounds for the game and there was this whole thing about the Barret .50 cal along with like 2 seconds of gameplay with it. I dont see why they wouldnt have sniper rifles in the game.

it has been discussed and explained.(more explaining than discussing though.) that it's because they want to keep the battles up close and personal. what'd be the use of customization if the enemy is only a dot in the distance?
and for that they had to make the maps smaller. and that means sniper rifles have no use, apart from quickscoping, wich is something only quickscopers are fond of. bloody insta-kill noobs. almost as bad as those commando tac knifers in mw2...

and either way, they're either overpowered, or not worth using.

Personally i think quickscoping is abusing the system. It takes real skill to aim down a scope and kill your target but w/e. From wut i see in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfvfIXTFWJc&feature=relatedTFWJc&feature=related i can tell wut some of the guns are based off of.

I see:
3 different types of M4s
SCAR
M249
Kriss Super V
Sig552
UMP
MP9
Sig P226
M1911
DSR-1

The Drognav Light Rifle looks more like the http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn38-e.htm imo.

I just noticed though, the gun under the "Drognav" actually looks like a Dragunov, maybe they switched the names around to mess with us? Could by wrong tho, as you can see from before I'm not very good at naming sniper rifles lol.

Also, let me see if I can add to your list. To me, the first two guns in the top row both look like the SCAR system, one being a light variant, the other heavy.
Below that looks like an M468 and a FAMAS. The last of the rifles Is hard for me to tell. From the stock and grip, I want to say its a Sig, but the reciever area looks more like a G3, or a FN/FAL.

M134 Gattling

What appears to be an AA-12 with a rotating magazine along with SPAS-12.

The MG with a chainsaw grip is an m240, but I'm not too sure about this one.

The "CARB-9" appears to be this games version of the M4, which is a carbine. Looks like they made it a light weapon, presumably to give light players a chance to have a more accurate fully auto weapon.

The bullpup SMG looks like an FN2000, and I will agree with you on the rest.

The very first weapon is not based on the SCAR, the second is basicly a SCAR-H (Rokstedi AR).

On the very right there is a MP7 (Tampa SMG), to it's left a UMP 45 (Galatic SMG). Under that one a TAR 21 alike weapon (Bulpdaun SMG).


The Secondaries Page does also show pistols, which seem to be USP, Beretta M9, Desert Eagle, Walther P99 and a Raging Bull.

Yea, most of those already got covered by the guy above me, but the Bulpdaun looks more like a FN2000 to me (Although both the TAR and FN have the clip going in at an angle, so it could be something else entirely). The only similarities to TAR that I can see is the bullpup design. And I had thought that the first was a SCAR-L. I will commend you on the pistols though, Ive never been much good at telling them apart.

To me, the Carb-9 actually looks to be based off of the http://www.sobanj.org/smg_01.jpg. I find this interesting, because I personally find the real-life equivalent to be horrendously ugly, but I think that the Carb-9 is actually pretty awesome, aesthetically speaking. I mean, it's still pretty ugly, but it has that kind of awesome-looking utilitarian ugly that denotes the gun was designed for efficiency and egronomics, rather than to be easy to look at; a quality that the Colt 9mm doesn't seem have.

You could be very right. On second inspection, the Carb-9 seems to have a 9mm straight clip, which is very different from the M4. But, I have to imagine the CARB-9 is a CARBine, not an SMG. The M4 is also a carbine. Carbines are similar to assault rifles except that they have a shorter barrel, making them behave somewhere in-between rifles and SMGs. Having light characters use the m4 would match the real world purposes for carbines, maneuverability.

I guess I should elaborate a little - yes, the Carb-9 could denote that it is a CARBine, but it also has "9" in it's name, possibly indicating the type of ammunition it uses (9mm?). Yes, a carbine is shorter than a rifle and more maneuverable, but they also fire rifle (5.56, in the case of the M4) rounds, whereas SMGs usually fire smaller, pistol rounds, like the 9mm. Therefore, the name of the weapon itself possibly poses a question. Admittedly, the 9 could stand for something other than 9mm, but the magazine looks so thin that I can't imagine standard rifle rounds chambered.

Semantics aside, my entire basis for comparing the Carb-9 to the Colt 9mm was that the magazine does not seem to fully fit the receiver, possibly indicating that the weapon is chambered for a round smaller than the one it was originally designed for. Whether it is a CARBine or a 9mm SMG doesn't really matter. If you put up a picture of an M4 and a Colt 9mm Submachine gun and asked me to choose which looks closer to the Carb-9, I would choose the 9mm based solely on the fact that the magazine/receiver looks similar.

And I would tend to agree with you. I mean, there are other guns where the names just don't seem to match up, like the Drognav that looks like a DSR. Is it even possible to have a rifle round in a straight clip like that? Without a rifle round then it wouldn't be a carbine, nor an M4, I agree.

On a different note, the fact that the Tampa SMG appears to be an MP7, do you think the that Spec-Ops Hockler machine pistol that you get for pre-ordering is just a reskin for the Tampa? would be a bit odd to have two guns modeled after the same weapon. The only possibility that i can think of is that the Hockler is a sidearm while the Tampa is a light weapon.

You know, it could be a combination of the two guns, or at least their names. They did it with the Hockler and the Mossington, right?

I knew Ive seen that somewhere i just couldnt remember where exactly. The Tampa SMG looks more like the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%BCgger_%26_Thomet_MP9, http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=6993 is a better picture (ignore the fact that its an airsoft gun). Also the Bulpdaun SMG looks a lot like the http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.arcimboldeb.com/img/eventi/armi4/38.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.airsoftkorea.org/showthread.php%3F481-MagPul-PDR&h=450&w=628&sz=111&tbnid=UbjLK70MfvckeM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmagpul%2Bpdr&zoom=1&q=magpul+pdr&hl=en&usg=__G3uMpNI8C4Tg9mRVhphllk5IL58=&sa=X&ei=q328TLKRPIy6sQOX8aGODw&sqi=2&ved=0CB8Q9QEwAg.

The reason that most games dont the real names of the weapons is because of legal issues (at least i think so?). Also, to clear some of the confusion up, the Colt 9mm is classified as a SMG as said by http://www.colt.com/mil/SMG.asp website.

Good eye on the SMGs, it would also still allow the Hockler to be an MP7. The Magpul is also an SMG, whereas the TAR-21 and FN2000 are rifles. And the difference between a carbine and an SMG is primarily the round used and to a lesser extent, the barrel length. The 9mm is a pistol round, so any automatic using it would tend to be an SMG. So, as far as i can tell, you seem to be correct on all counts, and loki as well.

The SCAR-L and SCAR-H are almost identical (90%), so the first weapon definately is not based on one.

I'm quite sure the Bulpdaun is based on the TAR, and if you look carefully, you'll find the weapon left to the TDI Vector looks more like the F2000, but without the actual bullpup design.

Im pretty sure that the one next to the Vector is an AA-12 with a rotating magazine - the games heavy weapons auto-shotty. I also appear to be wrong about the shotgun being a SPAS-12, its just a big mash up of several shotguns. Its name is the Mossington, a mix of Mossburg and Remmington, it has the stock of a Benelli M4 Super 90, a SPAS-12 foregrip/pump (maybe) and I'm sure elements from others.

It's definitely possible to have large rifle rounds in straight magazines, I was just basing my speculations on the fact that the Carb-9's magazine looks too thin for rounds comparable to the 5.56. I realize that there is a possibility that when playing Brink, weapon descriptions won't even mention the type of ammunition that they use, but for the purposes of fulfilling combat roles, the looks of the Carb-9 tend to lend itself towards a shorter-range weapon, as far as realism goes. Again, I have no idea to what extent the "what it looks like" to "what type of gun it is" correlation will play out in the actual game.

On the Brink Wiki http://brink.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons chart, the weapon in question is stated as the "Carb-9 SMG." So, as Shadowcat stated, the name of the weapon is a bit misleading. 9mm carbines do exist, but again; purely semantics. On the whole, I don't think it really matters - I still rather like how the weapon looks.


On a different note, if both versions of the SCAR-L and SCAR-H are in the game, I theorize that they will probably be in the same weapon group, but they will have different stats. Since the SCAR-H is chambered for 7.62 (if I remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong) it will likely have more recoil, greater damage, and less ammo capacity than the 5.56-oriented SCAR-L.

To be honest I have no idea wut that is so i cant give any info on it but the shotgun u talked about seems to have the body of a https://www.mainemilitary.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=157&idproduct=1291 with all of the things u said. Also the first weapon look like an M4 with http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/king-arms-vltor-casv-m-cqb-aeg.html.

want a bought the sniper . I thought i saw one in the movie.

The one "sniper" rifle is pretty clearly an intervention, the other is called a "Drognov" which sounds like a Dragunov but looks nothing like it, im sure a gun expert will come along and blow everything i just said out of the water