Now, Im not going to talk about the plausibility of reproduction, but more about the children having actually been there when the bombs went off.

For starters, the great war happened on a Saturday, and as far as I know, children don't do school on saturdays. Another problem with this is that the children were most likely, there at night. In a house in D.C where a robot still does daily chores, burned out skeletons are there, but the big problem? The people were asleep when they died.

Sorry, I just am confused about what happened, and I hope this will be answered well.
Thanks!

The current lamplighters are not the same kids from 200 years ago.
Teenage pregnancy is the most probable cause for more Lamplighters and good reason they kick out kids at 16.
Hormones kick in at about 11 years old and full term pregnancy has been known to occur with eight year olds.
The average age of marriage two hundred years ago was 14.

A field trip to the caverns could happen on a Saturday, or a Friday and they were planning to camp there.

The dead kids in the Georgetown bed could have been
1) having a nap
2) sleeping in
3) drugged to death by the parents so they would not experience the horror of the end of the world
4) died of radiation poisoning, starvation or disease days/weeks after the war (obviously the house wasn't vaporized, ie, result of high altitude detonation)

I always had class on Saturdays :shrug: At any rate, out-of-class excursions usually happens in off days (back in my times, it was always on Sundays). Also, they could be sleeping over at the caves.

I found little lamplight's existence to be stretching things a bit far myself.

I agree with the above, I've been on overnight school field trips before, and they have involved weekends. And children take naps, we don't know what age they were.

As for repopulation, I always assumed that it was parents from Big Town and other families in the Wasteland who thought their children would be safer.

Seeing the fact that many of the residents of Big Town despise Little Lamplights, I doubt they would send their children there. Random kids stumble to the cave or been taken to Little Lamplights by other parents maybe a possibility. But ya, I would agree with agent_c that Little Lamplights is a bit stretching of things a bit far.

good thing the game has a sense of humor!

i think the idea was taken from Mad Max beyond thunderdome..
MCReady himself is an amagum of a few differetn mad max beyond the thunderdome and road warrior characters

I'm pretty sure it says somewhere in lamplight caverns on a holotape "Monday October 23rd 2077", it then goes on to say they were from early dawns school, which is just outside of GNR and super mutant occupied.
And as for the people who say they were napping, I've heard it was near morning time.
Which could mean it was overnight and they hadn't woken up yet

Taking inspiration from the generally acknowledged worst Mad Max movie made wasn't such a bright idea IMHO. :mellow:

Well... what other box-office post-apocalyptic hit movie do you know of?

The Mad Max series set the standard for the post-apocalyptic genre, and it has always been a major influence in the FO series.

Mad Max (1) comes to mind... Road Warrior was a bit worse, but still great. Beyond Thunderdome, I kinda pretend it doesn't exist :mellow:

I agree that LL has some big blanks in its story, but the setting itself is just plain wonderfull!
There are many things that make me care in FO 3, LL is one of them.

i am just curious and i mean this in the least hostile way possible, how is it "stretching too far"? Do you mean it is offensive or it is implausible?

I dont think its existance is a little far-fetched. It would be easy for LL to populate itself, either through wandering children or pregnancies. Not to mention there was never a real threat to their existence. Yeah, obviously there were SM right behind them, but, they never made an attempt to attack. The SM probably dont know they even exist other than a wall just being there......

The Super Mutants have been there for almost 200 years. And Vault 87 is the only known vault in the Capital Wasteland that can produce Super Mutants. So, if you see Super Mutants in Downtown D.C, I wonder where they come from?

What I don't understand is why the Super Mutants didn't take all the children and transformed them in centaurs or Super Mutants. Instead, they wander up to the Downtown D.C or Big Town to take people.

(Oh, right. Children can't be harmed. )

You didnt read what I said. I said the SM are right behind them in the tunnels. They probably dont know they exist because there is a wall just sitting there blocking them from view, or just dont care. Remember, they are very stupid.

I meant that if Vault 87 is the only known place where mutants are created, and that it is the place where the mutants of the Wasteland bring their captives to turn them into Super Mutants, then they must know of the existence of the children of Little Lamplight. Afterall, all that separates them is an unlocked door.
While being stupid, they know how to create Super Mutants. And if they can travel from Vault 87 to Downtown D.C to find captives, I'm sure they should already know about Little Lamlight's existance.

But now that I write this, I've just remembered that Vault 87 has a door that leads to the outside world, and that must be used by the Super Mutants for entering/exiting Vault 87.

The supermutants probably didn't take any children because they weren't big enough, I remember there was a conversation between two supermutants where they talked about dipping people in goo and how they need strong humans or something. I'm sure they muties weren't too stupid and realized that they're rather wait until the kiddies got bigger and then they could eat them or dip them in FEV.

Implausable. Just on a repopulation level. Little Lamplight seems to be one of the biggest populated places in the wasteland, but only children who leave more or less at puberty? The fact they don't know how bad Big Town is seems to make returns from there unlikely, and there are no other known big population centres nearby to orphan their kids there.

I can see a group of kids just after the blast, but not this far beyond the bombs.

Well one of the ways LL can be continually (if some what slowly) populated is through people like the LW bringing kids there.
Because An alternative , so if it can happen by
people sending kids they find but dont want to look after or LL own scave teams bring in some (the kids of dead Waistlanders & Raiders?)
then yes, I think its possible(ish!), if unlikely with the numbers they have.

Seems to me that all those getting kicked out of LL, and actually surviving to Big Town would turn around and go back. Tell all the other LL'ers it isn't worth leaving, and therefore they shouldn't leave. And if any snot nose kid had a problem with that, kick them out!

The problem with that is that there is extremely lethal radiation at the front door to V87 the captives would be dead (as evidenced by the Lw trying to walk there.) before they got even close to the door. No the Mutants would have killed all the kids a long time ago I would think. Also it isn't like Little Lamplight is a secret or anything. Hell the slavers know they are there they could have broke in pretty easily. They have what 2 guards at the front gate, And a wooden sign as a gate?

Not as if the slavers could break through the gate.

Maybe I've played too much Mercenaries 2, but I wish Fallout had a little bit more environmental destructibility other than cars.

I thought we where talking "real life" not game play mechanics.

No :thumbsdown: