I just want to make sure of a few things, as kind of new to modding oblivion and load orders.
My system specs btw are a 2.2 Pentium 4 Processor, 1gb ram, Nvidia Geforce 6200 series and creative soundblaster card (don't ask I don't know what one lol).


Does this load order look okay, should I change anything, (note it will load and play)

Oblivion.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Streamline 2.1esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races TNR.esp
Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Knights.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt -OOO Compatibility.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Alternative Start By Robert Evrae.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCOrrey.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCFrostcragSpire.esp
Drokk's Vampire Mod.esp
AznarsLifeDetect.esp

I also have Oblivion Optimised installed, low poly grass for oblivion and si, and Oblivion Mod Manager. also streamline, I bounce between recomended and extremly agresive, any help on using streamline would also be appreciated.

Now even with my awesome pc specs it will set the graphics to low, now the visual quality does not bother me to much, but what I really can't stand is not being able to have the same or near similar view distance to what I can get on the ps3.
If there is anything else I can add, download, install to make oblivion run just that bit smoother then it would be appreciated if you post.
*note the game works with all these mods relativley well, I only get a little stutter when outside and not that often overall I can live with the performance I am getting, but I like to get the max of what I can*
Many thanks all

Your CPU is very weak for Oblivion, and adding mods will not help at all. OOO, as with any overhaul, adds NPCs. More NPCs means more AI packages, and more AI packages, means more work for your CPU.

Get BOSS - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=boss <-- sort your load order
Upgrade Streamline to 3.1 - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=stabilization_and_optimization_mods#FPSMem <-- please follow the installation instructions for 3.1
See the above-linked page for more optimization suggestions. Be sure to install Quiet Feet Max.
Oblivion.ini Tweaks - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=oblivion_ini_tweaks <-- apply the general tweaks and the on-board sound tweaks

What Oblivion optimized mod are you talking about, by the way?

After sorting everything with BOSS, please post your updated load order.


Edit: A 2.2GHz P4 does not meet the recommended requirements for the vanilla game: http://www.elderscrolls.com/games/oblivion_faq.htm

Edit: If you do not want SL modifying your graphics settings, you can turn off the relevant feature, but your game probably needs it.

sl.ini setup - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=streamline_ini_setup <-- check this, there might be something more you can do

Edit: You could turn off StreamSmooth and StreamSight and have OSR (on the first page, beneath SL) handle all of your FPS smoothing. You may want to lower the FPS cap to 25 or 20, however. That might be unnecessary...

Okay thanks will try some of the above, I forgot I do have quiet feet installed to, and have boss downloaded but not installed.
The optimizer i use is Operation_Optimisation by Quarn and Kivan.

Will get the boss load order here soon. and will add streamline 3 in a bit downloaded most things already just no idea how to use some of them lol

Okay just extracted boss, and ran the bat file from my data folder and got this


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Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility

© Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009-2010
Some rights reserved.
CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
v1.51 (2 April 2010)
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Critical Error! masterlist.TXT does not exist or can't be read!
! Utility will end now.

Is it in the Data folder, and is the masterlist.txt file in there too? What operating system are you running? Your GPU is on the minimum side too...

I can't see any masterlists.txt, and yes it is definatley in the data folder. (have some experience with morrowind mods so know the data folder is the important part)

I run windows XP pro.

And as I say it isnt that bad on the stuttering I can live with the way the game runs as long as it keeps this level of performance up. But anything that helps can't be bad

Once again thanks for all the help so far the above links are very useful and will have to give a really good read over before tweaking ini files.

Well if I were you, I wouldn't even try to run the game on that computer. It's far too weak overall to be able to get a satisfying game going on it.

Well as I said it works, it does mean a significant graphics cut and the and 5seconds of stutter every once in awhile which I can deal with. really it works fine enough for me (unless you kind people want to send me money to get a new pc.... no oh well )

I got it on small textures 800x600, everything turned off near enough, view distanceas way down, but distant land on. I have played oblivion extensivley, way over a thusand hours on the ps3 and the only thing that I can't live without is to view distant land, not bothered about trees grass and buildings. and this is my main problem (well not that big) but when the distant land is turned on is when i get the stutter problem evry once in awhile, turned off the game runs fine. with no mods I can run it on medium settings without a problem.

Sorry if this seems like a watse of time asking for optimising info, but if I have to deal with a slight stutter to the game then so be it, it is something I can live with.

Download the updated masterlist.txt file from the BOSS Nexus page. You need that file. If you directly extracted the BOSS archive into the data folder you should have ended up at least with BOSS.exe, BOSS.bat and masterlist.txt. I think there is a document of some sort for BOSS in there as well, but those are the three files you need in order for it to work.

For BOSS create a file in Notepad called masterlist.txt and copy and paste http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/source/browse/MWmasterlist/masterlist.txt into it, then save it into your data files folder.

Oh what a muppet I am yeah it's in the zip file

here we go


-----------------------------------------------------------
Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility

© Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009-2010
Some rights reserved.
CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
v1.51 (2 April 2010)
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Master .ESM date: Tue Apr 11 08:02:00 2006
FCOM not detected.
OOO detected.
Better Cities not detected.


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Recognised and re-ordered mod files:
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Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

Cobl Main.esm
. Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}}

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp
. Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

Knights.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
. Note: MAY cause CTDs. Cause uncertain despite extensive debugging. Disable if experiencing a persistant crash.

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}}

Drokk's Vampire Mod.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts,Graphics}}

Cobl Races.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH: Eyes, Hair, R.Relations, Voice-M, Voice-F}}

Cobl Races TNR.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}} and deactivate.
. Requires: the Cobl Cosmetics Res 01 files installed.

Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}} and deactivate.
. Requires: the Cobl Cosmetics Res 01 files installed.

Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-F,Body-M,Eyes,Hair,R.Relations}}

AznarsLifeDetect.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Streamline 2.1.esp
. Note: Very Old. Update to 3.1+.

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Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
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Done.

No need to go to even that extent, such as it is.

Instead, click on the "View raw file" link, and save the page, once it has stopped loading.

Done!

You have a grass performance enhancer but have a look at this one instead....
http://oblivionmodgods.de/rpg-blackdragons-lowtripolygrass-t70.html
More options for performance, its pretty much the same idea but the advantage of this one besides more options is with the lower options for more performance the crossed billboards for each clump of grass are angled so when viewed from the top its not so obvious a + shape.

Also from the same author low poly trees....
http://oblivionmodgods.de/rpg-blackdragons-lowpolytrees-t245.html#p655
Optimised meshes, a few less branches and a bit bigger in the leaves department to make up for less branches, apart from that trees still look good because it makes no difference to the textures you are using (vanilla or your own choice from someones mod) which wrap around these meshes the same. The performance comes from using less poly's to make the same 3D tree skeleton

I love that first mod. I could not get onto the site though. The other mod is really for optimization, haven't ever had to try that one. His mods are pretty though, and it should help with your limited specs. Also, update Streamline to v3.1.

Okay got all mods suggested, although I tested with only streamline 3.1 obse, and all the above mentioned optimisation mods, I added no other mods and it makes it run slower maybe I am just being simple here, I have followed the instructions given here and in the readme files so will keep playing about till I get it right.

Thanks all for the help

Wow, that's odd... Yes, maybe you have to tweak some things.

Do you need the on-board sound tweaks: http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=oblivion_ini_tweaks#OnBoardSound

Even on the best of rigs, there will always be a little bit of stutter. That's the graphic file loading up into your video memory from your hard drive. It can't be avoided completely even if you were to run a state of art machine, only reduced.

Yes, I would recommend that one over Low Poly Grass as well. It looks much better overall. Low Poly Grass can appear rather odd if you look at it from the wrong angle.

You may need to tweak Streamline a bit in order to get the best performance from it for your rig. He set up parameters that worked for his computer, which is no doubt quite different than yours. You'll find a number of settings at the bottom of the .ini file you can change to optimize it for your particular system. You'll need to have an understanding of some of the various game settings found in your Oblivion.ini file for that though, so you might want to start doing a bit of research there.