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LOD glowing?

Post » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:58 pm

HI, I just noticed I'm getting this odd, illumination on LOD objects, (it only seems to be the cities/towns) I don't think I'm using any city illumination mods (I can see any in my mod list), and it only happens if I face a particular direction, meaning that when I'm moving around I can see them flashing on & off. I't more just annoying then anything else.
and Im right about to swap the Natural Weather mods with All Natural 0-9-9-5-18305, no Idea if that will do any thing for this issue...

Thanx for any help on working out how to stop this!


http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/Carnage009/weirdLODglow.jpg



My current mod list (BOSS load order)
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OBSE v18
Qarl's Texture Pack 3

Oblivion.esm
MathFunctions.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp
Better Cities .esp
Fra.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
Fran Armor Add-on.esp
Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
OBSE-Storms & Sound.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
Days&Months.esp
ES4_Alchemists Reference.esp
ImprovedSigns.esp
LCD MDMix.esp
Portable Campsite.esp
Choices and Consequences.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp
Slofs Elaborate Robe Exnemized - EV.esp
Female Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - EV.esp
Umarils Armor Separate - EV.esp
Armors of the Black Moon - EV.esp
Colourwheels sixy Regal Uniforms.esp
EY_BM_Armory.esp
Hentai_Compilation.esp
KDClothCirclets.esp
Queensarmory.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
HGEC Dantes Clothes - EV.esp
The sixy BeastV1.2.esp
Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
FCOM_Cobl.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp
OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
FCOM_SaferRoads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
meg - Crow's Nest Cottage v1.esp
Solace.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
White Tower v0.8.esp
Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp
za_bankmod.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp
Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Mighty Umbra.esp
HoarfrostCastle.esp
FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp
FCOM_Knights.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
bartholm.esp
Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Cliff_BetterLetters.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
gardening.esp
PersuasionOverhaul.esp
More Realistic Encumbrance.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
RealisticMagicForceLow.esp
PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp
MofMagecraft1.7.esp
Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp
RealisticLeveling.esp
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
X.Races.Comp.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races TNR.esp
Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp
BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
FormID Finder4.esp

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CArlos BArrera
 
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Post » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:45 pm

That's typically what happens when there are too many VWD objects in the game that haven't been properly optimized. All the VWD objects start taking on strange colours. The problem is made worse if you increase your fLightLOD settings too much in the ini file. IIRC, it starts to happen more often if you go beyond 4200 or something like that. Those landscape mods probably have a number of VWD objects in them and it's making the game engine go strange.
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Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:40 am

Hm, I thought this was a known bug realating to VWD mods and bloom lighting? Perhaps you could change to no lighting/HDR?
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Monika Fiolek
 
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Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:40 am

Hentai_Compilation.esp
I dont know about your problem, but man get porm lol not hentai mods.

Really? If you are going to post, please be constuctive. What you just did was not cool, at all.

Anyway, I think the problem is with you not using HDR. If you use LOD programs or mods, most require the user to run HDR or problems will occur.
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Post » Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:03 pm

HI, I just noticed I'm getting this odd, illumination on LOD objects, (it only seems to be the cities/towns) I don't think I'm using any city illumination mods (I can see any in my mod list), and it only happens if I face a particular direction, meaning that when I'm moving around I can see them flashing on & off. I't more just annoying then anything else.
and Im right about to swap the Natural Weather mods with All Natural 0-9-9-5-18305, no Idea if that will do any thing for this issue...

Thanx for any help on working out how to stop this!


Weather mods have nothing to do with this.

The yellow glow is caused by an improperly optimized LOD mesh somewhere in your game. Specifically one that still has specular property data left on the mesh. If you haven't already, update your ULs. There were some over the last few months which had LOD cleanup work done. It literally only takes one mesh to blow the whole thing. Other than that, the only thing I see in your list that might need updating is Better Cities.

If you're not using RAEVWD, there are some vanilla meshes that can cause this as well. You may want to try installing that to see if it helps.
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Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:06 am

Really? If you are going to post, please be constuctive. What you just did was not cool, at all.

Anyway, I think the problem is with you not using HDR. If you use LOD programs or mods, most require the user to run HDR or problems will occur.


Ok, yeah I'm not using HDR as I found that in places like the IC everything was so glowy and bright it made stuff look just wrong, I'll turn it on and see how I go. thanx.

& @ yesyesyes#1, well there clothing mods with some epic armour in them, but hay if I can't walk around in the city with my junk out with out getting arrested, then I'm dam sure going to do it in game. :D

Weather mods have nothing to do with this.

The yellow glow is caused by an improperly optimized LOD mesh somewhere in your game. Specifically one that still has specular property data left on the mesh. If you haven't already, update your ULs. There were some over the last few months which had LOD cleanup work done. It literally only takes one mesh to blow the whole thing. Other than that, the only thing I see in your list that might need updating is Better Cities.

If you're not using RAEVWD, there are some vanilla meshes that can cause this as well. You may want to try installing that to see if it helps.


Ok, well I only actually had Oblivion for about 4 weeks, and the 1st 2 where svcked up by a random decoder codec from power DVD 5 crashing the game at the menu loading screen, (finally worked that incompatibility out), so all my mods are only 2 week old DL's.
Ok I'll give RAEVWD a go I have it's Archive sitting in the Bash installs folder ready to go anyway :) thanx

dose the TES4LODGen help with this? because I run it after I added all my mods and then again if I add any mod I know will add something that needs a LOD to the game.

Thanx for the help guys.
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Post » Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:28 pm

because I run it after I added all my mods and then again if I add any mod I know will add something that needs a LOD to the game.



Just to clarify, distant objects being viewable is not an LOD. That stands for Level of Detail and represents the amount of texture detail you see off in the distance. What you are referring to here is a VWD object, or Viewable When Distant.
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Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:29 am

Unfortunately nobody stepped up early enough to make VWD stick to describe distant objects so the LOD term has been used interchangeably with distant landscape for so long that it causes confusion.

In any case, no, tes4lodgen doesn't correct the glow issue. That's a mesh defect that has to be fixed by whoever created the bad one. You do have to run it after introducing any new VWD meshes into the game though or they won't display.
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Post » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:45 pm

ok ,thanks for the clarification, yeah I'm still semi-new to Oblivion modding, I did do lots with morrowind but LOD and VWD are all new.
and activating RAEVWD (just the building architecture, IC, wideness arch, etc..) has fixed the glowing buildings.
I think that's all my current mod issues fixed for now, time to start my 1st real game of Oblivion :D after about 3 weeks of setting up mods and working out there issues lol.

btw changing HDR and/or bloom did nothing. the extra lighting just made stuff glow even more. http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/Carnage009/Glow.jpg
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