lol... : V - Skyrim

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:49 pm

They are NOT below average or even average. They look good, not the best, but they look good. Stop... :facepalm:

if you think those graphics are good you have low standards. im not complaining about how the game actually looks if you know what i mean, but its low res, which makes me think all in game screens are console. and if some turn out to be from pc im not even going to care, i dont play games for theyre graphics.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:23 am

lets ease up on the cat fights people, and stay on topic please :D

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:52 am

That explains the high-res screenshots...

wrong.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:46 am

if you think those graphics are good you have low standards. im not complaining about how the game actually looks if you know what i mean, but its low res, which makes me think all in game screens are console. and if some turn out to be from pc im not even going to care, i dont play games for theyre graphics.

No, I don't. Again, it doesn't have the best graphics but it still has good graphics. I do recognize the lower resolution, in some screenshots. To say ALL are bad is a massive overstatement. My guess is that the PC resolution will look better than the consoles, however, the console's will probably still look good too.

You realize that looking at screenshots of a game often has a lower resolution that what it actually puts out? If you go back to see a bunch of the screenshots, you can notably see a resolution difference in some of screenshots compared to others.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:31 am

wrong.

Care to clarify?

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:07 pm

No, I don't. Again, it doesn't have the best graphics but it still has good graphics. I do recognize the lower resolution, in some screenshots. To say ALL are bad is a massive overstatement. My guess is that the PC resolution will look better than the consoles, however, the console's will probably still look good too.

You realize that looking at screenshots of a game often has a lower resolution that what it actually puts out? If you go back to see a bunch of the screenshots, you can notably see a resolution difference in some of screenshots compared to others.

when i said low res i meant the graphics themselves not the screenshots roody-poo

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:06 am

I really feel the female Argonian one and the Dragon + mountains from the first batch are PC screens

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:20 pm

wrong.

This.

Was anyone unaware that the Xbox 360 S (slim) models can go in 720p, 1080p, and 1080i?

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:08 am

I'm thinking if anything was PC it was the pre-generated character heads.. They all have a sheen about them that makes the faces look kind of greasy or wet. I don't think that will be an effect that you'll get on the consoles.. I could be wrong.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:32 am

This.

Was anyone unaware that the Xbox 360 S (slim) models can go in 720p, 1080p, and 1080i?

there are only a couple of games the Xbox can render in 1080p. The vast majority are limited to around 1280x720 max resolution.

It is extremely unlikely that Skyrim would be one of the 1080p Xbox games.

List of Xbox games with native render resolution:

Spoiler

Confirmed 1080p Xbox 360 Games:
Virtua Tennis 3 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1920x1080 for any HD output (including PC res), 1280x960 for 4:3 output, 1376x768 for 480p widescreen (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4xAA)

Xbox 360 Games with Lower Native Resolution:
50 Cent = 1280x720 (no AA)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Alan Wake = 960x544 (4xAA) - As per gamefest presentation
Alice: Madness Returns = 1280x720 (no AA)
Aliens Vs Predator = 1120x630 (custom AA)
Alone in the Dark = 1040x600 (2xAA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed 2: Bromance = 1280x720 (QAA)
Avatar = 1280x696 (2xAA, black borders)
Backbreaker = 1152x640 (2xAA + blur filter)
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Batman: Arkham Asylum = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, toggable blur filter)
Battlefield 3 = 1280x704
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bayonetta = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bioshock 2 = 1280x720 (edge blur filter)
Blacksite: Area 51 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger = 1280x720 (2xAA background, no AA characters )
Blue Dragon = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Blur = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Bodycount = 1024x720 (FXAA)
Borderlands = 1280x720 (no AA)
Brink = 1120x720 (edge filter? possibly FXAA)
Brutal Legend = 1200x720 (no AA)
Bulletstorm = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Black Ops = 1040x608 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood = 1280x672 (4x2 custom edge AA + black borders)
Call of Juarez: The Cartel = 1200x720 (custom edge AA)
Castlevania: Lord of Shadow = 1280x720 (no AA)
Catherine = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Club, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Conan = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720p (2xAA)
Chronicles of Riddike: Dark Athena = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Crackdown = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Crash Time = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Crysis 2 = 1152x720 (TAA)
Dante's Inferno = 1280x720 (no AA)
Darkness, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Dark Sector = 1280x720 (no AA)
Darksiders = 1152x648 (no AA)
Dead or Alive 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead Rising = 1280x720 ( up to 4xAA depending on frame rate)
Dead Rising 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dead Space 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dead to Rights: Retribution = 1088x612 (2xAA) ?
de Blob 2 = 1152x640 (2xAA)
Deus Ex: Human Revolution = 1280x720 (FXAA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dirt = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Dirt 2 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Don King Prizefighter = 1024x630 (2xAA)
Dragon Age: Origins = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dragon Age II = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast = 1280x720 (1x1 edge blur)
Dragonball: Raging Blast 2 = 1280x720 (1x1 blur)
Duke Nukem Forever = 1152x640 (no AA)
Dynasty Warriors 6 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dynasty Warriors 7 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dynasty Warriors: Strike Force = 1280x720 (no AA)
EDF: Insect Armageddon = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1024x600 (2xAA) - Same for GOTY Edition!
End of Eternity/Resonance of Fate = 1088x720 (2xAA)
End War = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Enslaved = 1280x720 (no AA)
F.E.A.R. = 1280x720 (2xAA) + slight blur?
F.E.A.R. 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
F.E.A.R. 3 = 1280x720
F1 2010 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Fable II = 1120x720 (blur filter, 2xAA)
Fable III =
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA, certain edges)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Far Cry 2 = 1280x696 (2xAA, black borders)
Fifa 2006 = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Fifa 2007 = 1200x675 (no AA)
Fifa 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Fifa 2010 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Fifa 2011 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Fight Night Champion Online =
Fight Night Round 4 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Final Fantasy XIII = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Fracture = 1280x720 (no AA)
Forza Motorsport 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, 4xAA replay & vehicle select)
Forza Motorsport 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, 4xAA replay & vehicle select)
Gears of War = 1280x720 (HD), 960x720 (SD) (2xAA on static objects?)
Gears of War 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, certain edges unaffected)
Ghostbusters = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
G.I. Joe: The Rise of the Cobra = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Godfather II = 1280x720 (no AA)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero 5 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA)
Halo 3: ODST = 1152x640 (no AA)
Halo: Reach = 1152x720 (2xAA temporal)
Halo Wars = 1280x720 (2xAA)
HAWX = 1280x720 (4xAA)
HAWX2 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Homefront = 1024x576 (no AA)
IL2 Sturmovik = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (full screen blur)
James Bond 007: Blood Stone = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA)
Left 4 Dead = 1280x720 (no AA, edge blur)
Left 4 Dead 2 = 1280x720 (no AA, edge blur)
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Harry Potter 1-4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Star Wars III = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 1280x720 (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (up to 4xAA dependent on framerate)
Lost Planet 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Mafia 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Marvel Vs Capcom 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Mass Effect = 1280x720 (2xAA, transparencies and effects not AA'd)
Mass Effect 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, transparencies and effects not AA'd)
Mass Effect 3 =
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no MSAA, but depth/Z-based edge blur?)
Metro 2033 = 1280x720 (AAA)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 1280x720 (2xAA?)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Mortal Kombat vs DC = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Mortal Kombat 9 = 1280x720 (edge blur filter)
MotoGP 2006 (screenshot) = 1280x1024 (framebuffer grab from AVS Forum member)
MotoGP '09/'10 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MotoGP '10/'11 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV: Alive = 1280x720 (no AA)
MX vs ATV: Reflex = 1280x720 (no AA)
MX vs ATV: Untamed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Nail'd = 1280x672 (4x2 custom edge AA + black borders)
Naruto Ninja Storm 2 = 1280x640 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
NCAA Football 08 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit = 1280x720 (2xAA on cars, no AA on environment)
Need For Speed: Pro Street = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Need For Speed: Shift = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Need For Speed: Shift 2 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (4xAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (4xAA, 60fps)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Bladen = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ninja Gaiden 2 = 1120x584 (2xAA)
Operation Flashpoint 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Orange Box, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Overlord = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Overlord II = 1280x612 (custom edge blur, black borders)
Perfect Dark Zero = 1152x640 (no AA)
Phantasy Star: Universe = 1152x648 (no AA)
Portal 2 = 1280x720 (edge blur)
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 3 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Prototype = 1120x640 (2xAA)
Quake 4 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (2xAA + blur)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Race Pro = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Red Dead Redemption = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Red Faction: Armageddon = 960x540 (2xAA)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-4xAA)
Ridge Racer 6 (demo) = 1440x810 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (2xAA, however post processing is likely interfering with the AA resolve in certain cases )
Rock Band = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Rock Band 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Rock Band: The Beatles = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Rock Band: Green Day = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Saboteur = 1280x720 (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (2xAA)
Saint's Row 3 = 1280x720 (800x450 lighting)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
SEGA: All Stars Racing = 1280x720 (2xAA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA, alpha to coverage)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (2xAA, 30fps)
Shadowrun = 1280x720 (2xAA) - Gamefest '07
Shadows of the Damned = 1280x720 (no AA)
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Simpsons, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Singularity = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Skate = 1280x720 (2xAA ? )
Skate 3 = possibly 1152x640 or less (2xAA, super blur filter makes it difficult to determine exact res)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (4xAA ?)
Soul Calibur IV = 1365x960 (no AA, software scaled to 720p)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (2xAA)
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Splinter Cell: Conviction = 1024X576 (2xAA)
Splinter Cell: Double Agent = 1280x720 (full screen blur, 1-pixel horizontal & vertical)
Split-Second = 1280x672 (2xAA)
Star Ocean 4 = 1248x702 (2xAA + edge blur/DOF, in field), ~936x512 (no AA, in battle)
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Super Stars V8: Next Challenge = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Super Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tales of Vesperia = 1280x720 (2xAA + full screen blur)
Tekken 6 = 1024x576 w/motion blur, 1365x768 w/o motion blur (no AA)
Terminator: Salvation = 1152x648 (blur filter)
Test Drive Unlimited = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Test Drive Unlimited 2 = 1280x720 (custom edge filter)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '11 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider: Legend = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Tomb Raider: Underworld = 1024x576 (2xAA) - depth buffer is 1040x576
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (screenshot) = 1040x585 (2xAA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground = 1280x720
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Top Spin 4 = 1280x720 2D, 640x720 3D (both 2xAA)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen = 1120x720 (blur filter)
Transformers: War for Cybertron = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Tron = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
UFC 2009: Undisputed = 1280x720 (custom edge AA with 2 colour gradations like 4xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (2xAA ala Gears...)
Vanquish = 1024x720 (2xAA)
Virtua Fighter 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4xAA)
Virtua Tennis 2009 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Virtua Tennis 4 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
WALL E = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine = 1200x720 (post-AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Wolfenstein = 1280x720 (no AA)
WWE All-Stars = 1280x720 (no AA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Source: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:51 pm

1280x720 or around 1100-something by 720.

There are a couple of games that the Xbox can render at 1080p, but it is extremely unlikely that Skyrim would be one of those.

Okay, I went to the official site and all the screens except http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/08/24/the-races-and-faces-of-skyrim/ and http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/akqacms/files/tes/screenshots/CompositeMountain_wLegal.jpg were the 360 res (1280x720)

To check just 'view image', right click 'view image info' and then a window pops up and the numbers with NO parentheses is the resolution.

PC images perhaps? :ninja:

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:36 pm

This.

Was anyone unaware that the Xbox 360 S (slim) models can go in 720p, 1080p, and 1080i?

All the 360 games are native 720p. The console just upscales to 1080p. Just like how it upscales DVDs to 720p. It's not true 1080

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:08 am

Okay, I went to the official site and all the screens except http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/08/24/the-races-and-faces-of-skyrim/ and http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/akqacms/files/tes/screenshots/CompositeMountain_wLegal.jpg were the 360 res (1280x720)

To check just 'view image', right click 'view image info' and then a window pops up and the numbers with NO parentheses is the resolution.

PC images perhaps? :ninja:

The portrait images are just groups of twenty pre-renders put together, not single screenshots.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:50 am

The portrait images are just groups of twenty pre-renders put together, not single screenshots.

True :shrug:

bah i give up, maybe Pete mis spoke or something

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:08 pm

True :shrug:

bah i give up, maybe Pete mis spoke or something

Well, I think we can pretty safely bet that these are PC screens due to their resolutions
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/ve3d/images/08/65/86535_CompositeMountain.jpg
http://images.uesp.net/c/c8/SR-BleakFallsBarrowScene_wLegal.jpg
Also, on that last screenshot, it feels as if it would definitely require a PC console command to be able to get such a viewpoint.

Personally, I also think this very much look like a PC screen (despite being 1280 x 720: http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/akqacms/files/tes/screenshots/DraugrCrypt02_wLegal.jpg
Shadows look higher res, don't see much jaggies, textures look pretty hi-res.
All signs of a PC version.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:12 am

PC screens on medium quality setting, i bet

I honestly don't mind. The mods will make it glorious. that should be enough for anyone.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:26 am

http://i.imgur.com/OKglk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tn2Qy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4gzwj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dphTP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ndqj9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Rl6EW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OHgZ0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uV5CI.jpg

These were speculated to be PC screens when they were released.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:47 am

i think they were the ones released a while back that showed really good textures on some of the weapons. there were some threads on it as well where people were asking if they were PC screens or not because when you compared them to some of the weapon textures on other screens you could see some difference although its hard because they were different weapons and lighting and all that changes.

if indeed people cant tell the difference between PC and console screenshots that does not bode well for PC gamers. aside from the obvious things like higher resolution and better textures you should have better AA and AF as well. to bad there is only so much you can gleen from screenshots.....what we need is PC footage to compare to console footage then it will be instantly recognizable with no jaggies and clearer ground textures etc.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:53 am

http://i.imgur.com/OKglk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tn2Qy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4gzwj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dphTP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ndqj9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Rl6EW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OHgZ0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uV5CI.jpg

These were speculated to be PC screens when they were released.

But... a few of those are from the trailer. Wasn't that confirmed to be 360 footage?

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:18 pm

I'm thinking if anything was PC it was the pre-generated character heads.. They all have a sheen about them that makes the faces look kind of greasy or wet. I don't think that will be an effect that you'll get on the consoles.. I could be wrong.

The Khajiit whiskers were VERY aliased. If they were PC shots, they had AA off.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:04 am

Okay, I went to the official site and all the screens except http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/08/24/the-races-and-faces-of-skyrim/ and http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/akqacms/files/tes/screenshots/CompositeMountain_wLegal.jpg were the 360 res (1280x720)

I totally bet that awesome shot of the mountains was on PC. I thought it from the start, that's PC. Then they said all screens were from 360, and I was like 'Lol no way.'

» Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:57 pm

when i said low res i meant the graphics themselves not the screenshots roody-poo

Chrissakes, go back to /b/.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:57 am

The race screenshots, mos def.

Exactly what I was thinking.

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:03 am

That explains the high-res screenshots...

» Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:00 am

I don't want to sound a [censored], but that mountain screen, seems too awesome for skyrim. I mean, it would be awesome, but....they already said that they didn't wanted too much difference between versions just higher resolutions, and that photo seems a little touched or with a complete use of light and clouds....don't know, hope im wrong, im not saying that's not a PC screen anyway, im saying that...its to awesome for believing it to be the standard of the PC graphics of a game designed for XBOX.