I've played thru fallout 3 and new vegas a few times now and I think my lone wanderers could whoop courier... um yeah. Anyone got a different opinion and why?

The Courier would win. The Courier has Remnants Power Armor, the Automatic Rifle, This Machine, the Plasma Caster, higher level, DT, etc.

As a whole, the Courier has better armor and better weapons.

Are we comparing game mechanics? Courier would win. Crappy non armor-piercing rounds and simple lasers just won't punch through the NV damage threshold.
Or maybe from the logic viewpoint? Well, the Courier seems to be MUCH more experienced in the dangerous wasteland(which is probably expected when you are doing this sort of work in a postapo-world).

Or bad-assesness(is that even a word?)? Neither of them. The Chosen One would whoop their asses in no time. C'mon, skills above 150%, porm star Champion title, Made man, Frank Horrigan slayer....

This thread belongs in the Fallout Series Discussion Forum. You might ask a mod to move it. It's not an FO3 topic.

The Courier, he has access to a better thought-out game.

ya but lonewounderer killed hundreds of super mutants killed hundreds of raiders killed hundreds of enclave and has MIRV fat man and Enclave tesla MK 2 power armor and alian weapons and minigun and gatling laser and tesla canon AND FAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Courier. He has DT and Iron Sights.

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut lonewounderer has FAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lone wanderer did that because the targets in his world were easy to kill. And what's the point of having power armor with no DT. Courier has tesla power armor with 24 DT and a SKY LAZER! And don't forget Boone with yeh Anti-Materiel Rifle.

Courier has companions that just go unconscious, Fawks will die eventually.

IMO the Lone Wanderer has achieved more in his life.. I mean, while the Courier had a more lasting impact on the world, he was merely assisting a stronger force.
I like the Lone Wanderer's style anyway... Come and do what you came to do and ride into the sunset.

Courier has boone, veronica and arcade. He (or she) takes down three superpowers in the wasteland and could have access to a robot army. I say let that vault brat come, bring it on! :gun:

You forgot about Cass, but I agree, let the Vault brat just go home and cry to his daddy. Oh wait, he can't, guess it's up to me to say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo.

Now the Warrior on the other hand could take the 2 of them on with both hands tied behind his back (superior Brotherhood might and intellect).

In an actual fight? The LW because of FO3's broken game mechanics.

All around? The Courier. With a high enough survival he can purify water with little to no effort, making the LW's main accomplishment meaningless.

Lone Wanderer, more health, Almost Perfect, Ghoul Anatomy and Superior Defender = Overkill.

The Chosen One would insta-kill them both anyways.

Oh god yes, post game Chosen One is the very meaning of overpowered.

I do admit I'm a bit biased, but oh well.
And this isn't from a gameplay standpoint, and only describes events in the main quest.

An experienced wasteland Courier, who travels across miles of terrain in presumably quick time to deliver things, would beat a 19 year old vault dweller with daddy issues any day. The Courier has proven to be quite capable and has a presumably colorful past, traveling across the Mojave (which is in game is scaled down much more, but in real life covers tons more area than the Capital Wastes) to kill a man, and then he/she influences a war one way or another, his/her isolated and seemingly insignificant actions (might be more significant in some playthroughs) make the difference about what happens to the entire region.

I think the biggest difference is that while the Courier and the Lone Wanderer were really both just pawns for bigger organizations (not counting the independent option), the Courier actually did more. The Lone Wanderer really only did anything when retrieving the GECK, escaping Raven Rock (though it could be argued he just snuck out), at the final battle for the purifier (but he just stood behind Liberty Prime), and destroying the Enclave Siege Crawler, which is really the only instance he had to have done something. On the other hand, he also did quite a lot by himself in The Pitt. But the Courier actually did more by himself. I'd have to say that in terms of "street wasteland smarts," the Courier wins.

But the Lone Wanderer beats everyone when it comes to marching behind giant stompy robots and pressing buttons. :mohawk:

Thanks for reminding me why whole Fallout 3 felt so ridiculous, really 18 year old kid who has lived his whole life in isolation becomes better trained than Enclave trooper who has trained his entire life in couple of days. It took months for Vault Dweller and Chosen One just to learn to survive.

So in all seriousness Courier would beat up Lone Wanderer any day. He's been out there for his whole life, while this snotnosed punk soiled himself the first time he saw a molerat.

The Chosen one, with his combined DT and DR with Advanced(Remnants) Power Armor with a Gauss Rifle that's not half-assed and a PULSE RIFLE will destroy all.

Then again, the Lone Wanderer is a wizard (magical mutations, barkskin, magical bobbleheads of power, lucky charms) and the courier and Chosen one more "normal" enhancements.

THEN AGAIN! The Lone Wanderer and Courier both have cutscene stupidity, if The Vault Dweller or Chosen one get to them during a scripted event, they can blast them to smithereens.

(I mean seriously, how do thugs knock out a guy in power armor? And how does gas knock out someone wearing a [censored] gas mask?)

The Vault Dweller, if he is still alive.

That would svck. Don't give Bethesda any ideas.

Oops, i meant to add an if.

It's already been done in PoS >.<