Okay. I am not entirely sure how to describe the type of game I am looking for. Hell, i'm not even entirely sure if it exists. But I will give it a shot.

So basically after playing through a few RPGs and playing as stealthy, assassin type characters, I went to Oblivion to play my usual Thief character who sneaks around, stealing stuff, killing people and generally being a not very nice person. And it's got me wanting to play a game that, is almost entirely dedicated to this gameplay type. Now, before you suggest the game Thief, don't. I HATE that game, and I am not entirely sure why. It just drives me nuts.

But, it's kind of what I am looking for, maybe slightly different. I don't want any games that use guns. I prefer the 'Ye Olde' setting, where swords, bows and whatnot are prevalent. Preferably an open-world type game, or at the very least, something that isn't a 'level-by-level' game.

A good example of the type of 'thief' type I am looking for, is the Thief from Trine, if anyone has played that game. Not side scrolling, but the same general consensus. And no, not Assassin's Creed [I know I am making this difficult, i'm sorry lol].

So let me here some examples if you guys got any. And only for the PC please. I haven't touched my consoles for awhile and I don't think I plan on playing them anytime soon. Plus, I got new videocards, so I wanna make this baby siiing.

Thief pretty much epitomises what you're looking for as you describe it. If you hate that then you will probably hate other games that come similarly close to your desire.

Wants thief game... hates best thief game ever made. <_<

Maybe Arkham Asylum for stealthy bits, although it's not swords and sorcery fantasy style. I'll go check if I can find more.

Edit: http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/windows/x,99/ a list you might find of interest. Sorry I can't be of much help, but you made it a bit difficult


Edit 2: Check out Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood in addition to above link.

Fixed. To be frank, the games you marked as "do not want" are very high up on the Thief/Stealth game ladder, and I'm afraid your only hope will be to find an indie game that matches your criteria, or wait until such a game is made (Skyrim, perhaps? It just might have a much better Stealth system and will satisfy your desire for this). :shrug:

I was more or less hoping someone on these forums had come across an indie game which matches this to be honest ^^.
The only real issue I ever had with the AC series, is it's not really you creating a character. It's a pre-determined character who just goes about doing the same missions over and over, and it gets old to quick. And the Thief game was just to linear and story-based. You went where you were told, did what you were supposed to.

I guess Oblivion will have to hold me over until Skyrim comes out. I just pray I don't need to micromanage skills so I can level up effectively.. Otherwise I am stuck waiting for XP mods ><

Splinter Cell perhaps (doesnt meet all requirements)

Splinter Cell? Metal Gear Solid? Riddike? None are open world tho.

Assassin Creed is almost the only game that fits your shoes. If you don't want it, I don't know what do you want. It's like, I'm hungry but I don't want to eat. Assassin Creed: Brotherhood is better than everything before.

Ever played the Tenchu games? It's a stealth game. :shrug: You weren't kidding when you said "very specific."

With what you described, the best game for you would really be Splinter Cell: Chaos theory.

Sure it isn't fully open world or in the past, however almost all levels are completely open, very large and non-linear. On top of this, if you want a good score, most of you're moves will be done in complete silence, in the dark.

On top of that, the game has one of the best Bank Heist level ever and an awesome stealthy gameplay, music and atmosphere.

I'm currently playing "Alpha Protocol", which is similar to "Deus Ex" in some ways, including the ability to focus on stealth. Both games aren't medieval, though, and they're not open-world.

Bully? GTA: III / Vice City / San Andreas / IV?

You get to be mean to people and raise hell and all that stuff. And I guess you could sneak up on people to do said things as well. :shrug:

If we're to help you, I think you need to specify your post more. What specific parts of Thief didn't you enjoy? What makes thieving in OB more interesting?

Also, the Thief in Trine includes no stealth elements whatsoever IIRC, what aspects of that was it you enjoyed? The acrobatical parts and such?

Far cry 2 has excellent stealth and is open world.

In most missions you can go in guns blazing or sneak around with a silenced pistol.

Im a stealth nut and rank far cry 2 as one of the best stealth games.

Splinter cell chaos theory and metal gear solid 3 are good.

many Thief games have been released Do'tirath's suggestions are good too

Maybe there are some combat, stealth and archery overhaul mods for Oblivion that might provide what you are looking for?

I think there is also a detailed thievery quest mod.

You *might* enjoy Dark Messiah of Might & Magic. It is level-based, but you hardly notice it, I think, and the levels are quite big.

You can play it as a stealthy rogue, a warrior or a mage, but rogue is easily the coolest class, and it really feels like it was made for this character type. The story is great, the visuals are stunning (released 2006 but way better looking than Oblivion) and it's just a lot of fun to play.

However, it might just be a little bit too close to the Thief series if you play it as a rogue. I don't know. But then I can't even imagine how not to come close to Thief Deadly Shadows when designing a thief/assassin game in a medieval setting.

I guess I will answer this.

I didn't like how thief confined you to a single place and gave you a mission to do. I'm not a fan of linear gameplay for games like this.

As for OB. I just liked the all around feel when playing a stealth class. I enjoyed attacking from a distance, and stalking around in the night, breaking into peoples homes, robbing their valuables then planting a knife in their throat. And the best part, was because you didn't have to follow the story, and it was open world, you have so much to do. I spent hours upon hours, just walking around, killing people in towns at night and stealing stuff. Building up that persona I wanted my character to have.

And I know the Trine thief was an odd thing to mention. But I don't know.... it's weird. It's like... the movement, look and just general idea of that thief strikes me as really interesting. I realize there is no stealth, but I just thought i'd mention it. Maybe a game was made with that thief as a main character lol, Wishfull thinking I suppose. But I did enjoy her rope thing, even though it took awhile to get used to.

I am basically just looking for another decent open-world, or semi-open-world game where I can play a good stealth character. I know I named off a few games, which match my criteria perfectly. But games like AC series are just WAY to repetitive and boring. You gain almost nothing in the way of character development // persona development by going around shanking random civilians on the street. I can't break into their homes and take their [censored]. I'd absolutely LOVE AC if it took a slightly more customized approach when it came to character development.

The only game that matches your preferences (as far as I'm aware) is Assassin's Creed.

If you haven't already tried it, I highly suggest giving the first game a try at least.

I believe Skyrim will be your best bet, then. You're basically asking for a thief game without a story, just with a big open world to explore and rob blind. That is something that would never work as a game on itself, there's just too little content for any mass appeal, and way too much effort needed for creating such a game. As far as I know, the TES games are still the only open world games that let you enter EVERY building, and also right from the start (normal games usually seal off certain parts of the game world until you've progressed in the main story).

I know how you feel, though. I wish there was just a little bit more competition for the TES games in this area. And it's especially the stealth parts of the games that I enjoy so much, I actually hate dungeon-crawling most of the time (the ones I didn't hate at all were Morrowind's bandit hideouts which had nice house-like interiors and you could sneak/assassinate your way through them).

I recommend the second instead, along with a AC1 plot summary for the little things the AC2 intro doesn't tell you.

Ya, I figured i'd be stuck waiting for Skyrim. I was holding onto the slightest bit of hope that an indie developer released a game I hadn't heard of.

And you kind of hit the nail on the head. I don't want to be bound by story. I want to walk around and go do whatever. And it svcks because, with all the RPGs coming out, none are offering that kind of 'stealth' game element. It's always a sword and shield type game with a bit of magic.

Hell, the other day I spent like 12 minutes shooting the Emperor in the face with 112 arrows just before the sewers, when he was dead. And I STILL wasn't bored.

I didn't realized I cared about Skyrim coming out til now. *sob*



First one was the only one I even beat.


Hate it. God I hate AC2 with all the passion of my burning gaming desire.

Tenchu is definitely worth a shot. I haven't heard much about the latest one, but the older ones for PS1 & 2 are awesome stealth/action games with some pretty sweet gore.

I think I get what you mean. It's not the stealth aspect per se, but the freedom to do what you want, creating your character and a personality, and this character in turn you want to be a stealthy one? Being able to come upon a guard in the day, get insulted by said guard and therefore stalk him the rest of the day, steal his stuff and put an arrow in his head for good measure (I did this frequently with my thieving Wood Elf) and such things?

Well, there's a reason Elder Scrolls is so loved by people that enjoy open-world games, and it's the fact that there aren't a whole lot of good games in this genre. If you can pass on the medieval part, Fallout 3 and New Vegas might tickle your fancy (it's pretty much Oblivion with Guns). The Gothic series is open-world as well and I recall a friend telling me there's stealth aspects in it as well (not sure about that though). Otherwise, you could try the Nehrim-mod for OB, for thieving in another world, until Skyrim comes

I think there are quite a few indie games with gameplay similar to Trines thief, but for the life of me, I can't think of any right now

Ya, I played and beat both FO3 and FO:NV. Loved them both, but I won't be touching those for another 6 months or so when they are a bit 'fresher' for me.

I wouldn't mind a game that was only a stealthy character, but you basically hit it on the head. I like to decide what I want to do. Being able to train skills up I want to use, move around how I want to, and basically play exactly how I want to. which as you said, involves putting an arrow in the back of that guys head for good measure [what's he going to do in life when i'v robbed him of all his belongings anyways?]

Guess i'll be a'waitin for Skyrim.