Lord Nerevar

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:34 pm

Hello there brothers of History of Nirn.
I have started this topic because I am new to forums and I wish to have a fish stick because Maiq couldn't give me one.
But seriously, I am not sure about one event.
In 1E 401 Chimer and Dwemer driven out Nords of Skyrim from Resdayn under Leadership of Lord Nerevar and Dumac Dwemerking.
In 1E 700 was a famous Battle of Red Mountain, also under leadership of Lord Nerevar.

Can anyone tell me how it is possible that Nerevar was over 300 years old?
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kirsty williams
 
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:54 am

He's an elf, elves live long time.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:53 pm

He's an elf, elves live long time.


Wiser words were never spoken.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:35 pm

Yeah thanks, I thought so too.
How about Divayth Fyr? :D
Ok ok I know I am getting boring...
So now just Divayth Fyr!
And since I am new I'd like to know what is CHIM and finally get this fish stick!
Cheers and thanks :)

PS I know Divayth is Dunmer, but is it possible for even Mer to live as long as he does?
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Eileen Müller
 
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 3:23 am

I'm sure if they did all the stuff he did.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:22 pm

Yeah thanks, I thought so too.
How about Divayth Fyr? :D
Ok ok I know I am getting boring...
So now just Divayth Fyr!
And since I am new I'd like to know what is CHIM and finally get this fish stick!
Cheers and thanks :)

PS I know Divayth is Dunmer, but is it possible for even Mer to live as long as he does?

Telvanni know how to prolong their lives really well, thousand years or more isn't all that uncommon for their wizard lords.
Magic, healthy diet, four young consorts, nice daedric armor to deflect most hits... I guess that's his secret :D
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:54 pm

Yeah, especially the part about Daedric Armor, however trying to obtain it can shorten one's life really quickly.
Again thanks.
I am pretty new to the Lore of TES, unlike the games which I have played since 2005.
I know a little something, let's say, but as one said "If you don't know something - ask" So here I am. :)

So once again, what's CHIM?
And maybe what's the average life expectancy of Mer?
For any answers and advices provided I'll be thankful.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:25 am

So once again, what's CHIM?

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml#3 I gave you a link because another answer probably wouldn't help you. Plus, I don't know specifically what's confusing you.
And maybe what's the average life expectancy of Mer?

Do a forum search. That question was answered. More than once around the same time.
For any answers and advices provided I'll be thankful.

You're welcome. :D
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:12 am

Yeah, especially the part about Daedric Armor, however trying to obtain it can shorten one's life really quickly.
Again thanks.
I am pretty new to the Lore of TES, unlike the games which I have played since 2005.
I know a little something, let's say, but as one said "If you don't know something - ask" So here I am. :)

So once again, what's CHIM?
And maybe what's the average life expectancy of Mer?
For any answers and advices provided I'll be thankful.


CHIM is sufficiently complicated as to have entire threads dedicated to it..just scroll down. You'll never go more than two pages without hitting one.

The average life expectancy for most elves is well over 100 years, with the exception of Orcs (who are elves in the Elder Scrolls mythos). The reason they don't live as long is they've apparently suffered several curses, and many of them live a harsh and barbaric lifestyle in cold mountain ranges. One Dunmer claims that a Dark Elf can expect to die in old age comfortably somewhere between 120 and 150. That's the average. Nobility live quite a bit longer, and powerful wizards can persist for centuries or even thousands of years. The Tribunal were practically ancient but they had access to a Divine artifact so they hardly count, but that could also be interpreted as another type of Necromancy - they used the heart of a dead god to make themselves Eternals.

Umaril was an elf, too, but he also sort of cheated, binding his soul to a Daedric realm. He had become something more than mortal and so his extremely long lifespan is an anomaly.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:58 pm

What the fudge is this poop?

    http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml#3
    What created the Wheel?
    Anu and Padhome, stasis and change, both vast realms sitting in the void, they created it. Not vast, infinite, as the void was infinite. Imagine an infinity enclosed by another; you come away with a bubble. Now watch as the two bubbles touch. Their intersection is a perfect circle of pattern and possibility that we shall call the Aurbis. The Aurbis is the foundation of the Wheel.

Isn't it Anu and Padomay? Not Padhome? Is that a typo? (Padomay is pronounced the same way you pronounce Annikan skywalker's wife's name, right?).
And isn't the Aurbis the gray matter that exists between the void and the unvoid?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:57 pm

What the fudge is this poop?

    http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml#3
    What created the Wheel?
    Anu and Padhome, stasis and change, both vast realms sitting in the void, they created it. Not vast, infinite, as the void was infinite. Imagine an infinity enclosed by another; you come away with a bubble. Now watch as the two bubbles touch. Their intersection is a perfect circle of pattern and possibility that we shall call the Aurbis. The Aurbis is the foundation of the Wheel.

Isn't it Anu and Padomay? Not Padhome? Is that a typo? (Padomay is pronounced the same way you pronounce Annikan skywalker's wife's name, right?).
And isn't the Aurbis the gray matter that exists between the void and the unvoid?



Why would you assume spellings would be universal in a fantasy setting when they're not in our own world?

The difference between "Padomay" and "Padhome" is about the same as "YAHWEH" and "JEHOVAH". (To use an example)

Different cultures or even authors within a similar culture spell things differently. And language evolves so quickly in our own world we must assume this is also the case in Tamriel. Consider the archaic spelling of words like "tyger" and "lybrary" only went out of vogue within the last 75 years or so.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:20 pm

Padhome = Dunmer vernacular.

Aurbis = totality of TES universe, from Nirn to Aetherius.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:42 pm

Why would you assume spellings would be universal in a fantasy setting when they're not in our own world?


Because this game series is only about 18 years old and it's created by only a handful of people at Bethesda. Words in real life have changed through the course of evolution, which is much more than 18 years.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:04 pm

Except that each Aedra also has about a http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/varietiesoffaith.shtml It shouldn't be a surprise that they wrote in multiple names for Padomay.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:39 pm

What? Are you saying that Dibella is also called Trinimac, Y'ffre, Vivec, Ruptga, Magnus and Khenarthi? That makes absolutely no sense. Unless those lists aren't in order because I'm just using the 2nd name in each of the lists.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:49 pm

What? Are you saying that Dibella is also called Trinimac, Y'ffre, Vivec, Ruptga, Magnus and Khenarthi? That makes absolutely no sense.


Then why did you jump to that conclusion? That makes no sense.

An example of what he means: Sep = Lorkhan = Shor = Sheor, all the same entity with minor idiosyncrasies it their respective religions.
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What? Are you saying that Dibella is also called Trinimac, Y'ffre, Vivec, Ruptga, Magnus and Khenarthi? That makes absolutely no sense. Unless those lists aren't in order because I'm just using the 2nd name in each of the lists.

No, the lists aren't in order.
SKYRIM: Alduin, Dibella, Orkey, Tsun, Mara, Stuhn, Kyne, Jhunal, Shor, Ysmir, Herma-Mora, Maloch
......
BRETONY: Akatosh, Magnus, Y'ffre, Dibella, Arkay, Zenithar, Mara, Stendarr, Kynareth, Julianos, Sheor, Phynaster

Most definitely not in order.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:27 pm

Hello there brothers of History of Nirn.
I have started this topic because I am new to forums and I wish to have a fish stick because Maiq couldn't give me one.
But seriously, I am not sure about one event.
In 1E 401 Chimer and Dwemer driven out Nords of Skyrim from Resdayn under Leadership of Lord Nerevar and Dumac Dwemerking.
In 1E 700 was a famous Battle of Red Mountain, also under leadership of Lord Nerevar.

Can anyone tell me how it is possible that Nerevar was over 300 years old?

well most mer live to be reallllyy old like super old, especially the telvanni because of there emersemant in the study of the arcane arts and how to preserve life in variuous ways. for instance divyath fyr is over 1000 years old and i think its misstress dratha, correct me if im wrong, is the oldest telvanni and is like thousands of years old
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:11 pm

I thought he was over 4000.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:54 pm

I thought he was over 4000.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:01 am

Quote about Dratha.
She is the oldest living Councilor in House Telvanni, sustained by the necromantic arts; Divayth Fyr is the only Telvanni older and is in fact likely to be the oldest NPC in Morrowind.

Of course the oldest Mortal.
As Vivec is of course way older than he is, correct me if I am wrong.

@tes96
I thought he was over 4000.


Lol wouldn't this make him Aldmer? :D


Ouch.
2E 227 — Tjurhane Fyrre dies.
Interestingly enough, his name is Fyrre - very similar to Fyr and the date of is death is probably very near, if not the same, to the date of birth of Divayth Fyr.
I know he was Ayleid and Divayth was Chimer, but this is just a little note, interesting I belive.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:40 pm

I thought he was over 4000.

He's over 4000!!!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:30 pm

Actually, I think Divayth Fyr is the oldest person period. Sotha Sil seems to imply that Divayth Fyr is older than him, or roughly the same age, but will live longer than him. Here's the quote I am referring too:

And what of your own mortality? How does that stand? If you live longer than a god, are you any less sublime? There has always been something different in you, though, I think. I believe you find a certain joy in your own mortality, thin stretched though it may be. It is a good quality in you.


And by deduction, since Sotha Sil is older than Vivec, Divayth Fyr must be older than Vivec. However, Vivec did cheat.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:37 am

Is Divayth Fyr older than Lord Elrond of Rivendell?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:22 pm

Is Divayth Fyr older than Lord Elrond of Rivendell?

Let me pull out my Middle Earth time line sheet somewhere...I don't know. Try finding the year Beren and Luthien had children to the very end of LotR, and that's how old he is.

And...that's kind of cheating. Elves in TES can die of old age, the elves of Tolkien cannot.
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