Actually my comment on the fifth era was rooted in what i perceived as possible technological similarities rather than philosophical ones. Or possible future storylines.

And my CHIM comment was more on the level of his hypothetical end being an interpretation of it that was relevant to his personal world. A bit like building a realm then becoming one with it.

And again like anything I enjoy supposition, it draws out viewpoints which help me see the whole "wheel." To use a lore reference.

The thing about the Loveletter, though, is it only represents one possible future - the purpose of it is instructional. How to avoid the Landfall.

MK stated once around here that we've already managed to avoid that specific future, although another one similar to it may still occur.

I never argued the relevancy at the present of the fifth era. I just cited it due to the apparent technology referenced therein, because precisely as you say it is within the range possibility, inclusive of similarity to it.

In short it was only relevant as a pun in my comment due to technology on a scifi-ish scale being a future possibility on Tamriel.

The mind runs wild in murky morning

Does anyone know about Sotha Sil's legs?
In Tribunal and on his Shrine picture, he doesn't have legs. But in 2920, Last Year of First Era he is said to walk across fire:

"Sotha Sil closed his eyes and uttered the charm of fire resistance. Slowly, he walked across the basin of leaping flames, climbing to the other side, unscathed. Not even his white robe had been burned."

I like to think Sotha is related to C0da and the Digitals

If you ask me, Alamexia, during the fight with MD, was the reason why Sotha Sil lost his legs. Why? She fights like an idiot. Even if there's an official piece out there, I still say I am right!

^ he could've healed them back very easily. and had he died from that he would've come back in full. Hell, if he survived with no legs he should've kiled himself just so he'd come back with legs.

....what?

I expect he didn't want or need them anymore. Given his reaction to Azura's curse on all Dunmer, he doesn't seem to possess any vanity, and would have no problem eliminating a part of his body for efficiency's sake.

Well, I assume he never really used his legs in the first place. It's more fun to float around!

It's not actually clear whether Sotha Sil had integrated himself with the computer system in his room, or if Almalexia, after murdering him, had just tangled him like that... is it? Yeah, he could have quitted using his legs long ago and just made them disappear... but why would he still wear greaves in his dying moment? Or were the legs just optimal spots to install some wires to, or did Almalexia cut them after he tied Sotha to those very wires?

About his color, how about this what I think would be an obvious choice: Azura punished him at some stage and turned him to... dunno, that Wood Elf-ish thing (he seems to have a color pigment of one, or a man-race, not Chimer... but his ears are pointy. Hmm...). Azura knew Sotha liked looking like a Dunmer in the end, so somewhere along the line (s)he changed him to completely something else?

Sotha Sil has been depicted as having lost his legs up to his knees in nearly every painting of him.

i thought that sotha sil was dead long before amalexia found him, doesn't she say he mocked her with silence? Shes out of her mind when you fight her at the end anyways.

Imo destroying the heart severed whatever life force he had left (if you do teh expansion after the mq)

Hey does anyone know why the fabrecants attacked teh city? Was ama controlling them, or did they go berserk?

Alma killed Sil, but its true he didn't speak a single word to her as she did so.

With their connection to the heart severed, the Tribunal were unable to regenerate their powers, thus driving Almalexia insane.

Alma sent the fabricants to attack.

Okay! I've released my Dunmeri Sotha Sil with a new mod of mine. You can download the main mod (which brings back the Almsivi at the end of Tribunal) or just grab the Dunmeri Sotha Sil.
You can get it http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37535

It has been maked with the:
HELSETH SEAL OF QUALITY :thumbsup:

While still attacked to the heart, if/when the tribunal died they would have just come back to life in a little bit (Vehk describes the 'time' inbetween death and re-birth as godhood.) So if his leg were taken off by Dagon, he could've offed himself and just come back to life with legs.

Yeah that was pretty much explicitly stated by both Dagoth Ur and Vivec..when a person is deeply charged with the power of the Heart he can simply "wake up" after "death". And dying would be a very rare thing for a god so fully charged.

I always had secret thoughts along these lines too.
This comes from what Almalexia says, about him not ever speaking to her, even as he faced death.
My thought was that Almalexia killed a fabricant, not the real Sil, but a machine infused with enough of his power to fool Almalexia.

No proof for any of that, but Sotha Sil was my favorite of the Triune and Id really like it if he was still down there, tinkering away.

Given http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-hatta-sphinxmoth-inquiry-tree, that may be exactly what happened. They describe the status of various godluke figures. Though they get Mannimarco wrong.



In addition to not speaking to Ayem, Sotha Sil was also wired up a good bit into the walls.

While I don't disagree that Sotha Sil was very much hooked in to his creation, I must insist that that little point, of him not saying a word to Almalexia before she killed him, is a poignant element of the narrative, rather than an indication that his physical body was "empty" or that he was otherwise occupied.

We know his clockwork city has a way of reflecting the world outside. He knew Almalexia would be coming. He knew it would be in madness, and that it would end with his death. After all the glorious things they had done together and all the glorious goals they once pursued... What could he say? His silence to her is the most telling indication of sorrow I encountered in all of Morrowind.

He knew she was insane, so why should he speak? I think his silence was a final [censored] you to the [censored].

Very well thought out.



Lol, that too.

And yet he would be conveying the same message if she thought she killed him.



He knew she was insane so why didn't he leave? You don't expect a magegod that's lived thousands of years to not know any teleportation magic or not have a single back up plan. Seht was not an idiot as you all seem to imply. The clockwork city was insanely huge. We didn't even see all of the main hall(We made it to his workshop)





Many inhabitants, one citizen.

Idiocy is different than accepting the inevitability of death. The heart and his power source was gone, his power was waning, he was eventually going to die one way or another. Perhaps it was a realization that he lived a lot longer than he natually should have, and resigned himself to his fate. The same as Vehk resigned to his fate of no longer being the god he once was (as opposed to finding a way to get back to the heart and restore his power). Ayem was the one that wouldn't accept her fate and went crazy, and nothing Seht could've said or done would change that.

More importantly, it seems to fit the trinity thing they have going on...
Sotha Sil was the mage, Almalexia was the warrior, Vivec was the thief (ie, warrior-mage).
Sotha Sil was he, Almalexia was she, Vivec was he-she.
Sotha Sil accepted death, Almalexia accepted nothing, Vivec accepted loss of divinity.

That's how I'd see it, anyway.

I geuss we'll have to disagree then. Seht doesn't seem the type to me.(And that last trinity isn't really related to itself) If he really was killed by Ayem, the not speaking definitely fits him.