Lord Sotha Sil

Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:24 pm

He knew she was insane so why didn't he leave?

So we could get on with our game; for the purpose of advancing the plot - one which already svcked - he didn't move. Think what you want.

Seht was not an idiot as you all seem to imply.

No, but he is dead.
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KRistina Karlsson
 
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:16 pm

Mmhmm, the dwemer no one's ever tried to ascend via technology before.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:29 am

He knew she was insane, so why should he speak? I think his silence was a final [censored] you to the [censored].
Or, he was diving into his own cyberspace, while Alamenxia was attacking a shell. Sotha Sil was then going to go back, but his body was too wrecked, so he now wanders the Clockwork City, looking for a new body to hook up to, or is now the central command!
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:15 pm

Mmhmm, the dwemer no one's ever tried to ascend via technology before.

Right, how silly of me to forget.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:08 pm

Or, he was diving into his own cyberspace, while Alamenxia was attacking a shell. Sotha Sil was then going to go back, but his body was too wrecked, so he now wanders the Clockwork City, looking for a new body to hook up to, or is now the central command!


You misunderstand. He IS the clockwork city. Why would he look for a new body?

Sotha Sil's fingernails are obscenely long when you find him, and his arms are extremely atrophied; how long had he been hooked up there? He didn't go silent because he was shunning everyone, he went silent because it was no longer possible to contact people.

But maybe you're all right, the clockwork city was worked on for millenia for [censored] and giggles. Because why not.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:22 pm

You misunderstand. He IS the clockwork city. Why would he look for a new body?

Sotha Sil's fingernails are obscenely long when you find him, and his arms are extremely atrophied; how long had he been hooked up there? He didn't go silent because he was shunning everyone, he went silent because it was no longer possible to contact people.
I was being silly with it :rolleyes:
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:11 pm

But maybe you're all right, the clockwork city was worked on for millenia for [censored] and giggles. Because why not.

His Clock-Work city was a failure, like the Tribunal and their Temple were failures. That's all. No one said it was worked on for [censored] and giggles. But you're sorry he's dead, so you've thought of a way to keep him alive. Ok, great.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:07 pm

Seht was not an idiot as you all seem to imply.


I certainly didn't mean to imply that he was an idiot. Obviously he was the brainiest of all the Tribunal, in many ways.

I only meant to imply that reading his silence as an indication that his body was merely a husk diminishes his character. Not his intelligence, his character. And, considering Sotha Sil was the one who braved Oblivion and the Princes of Misrule to make the pact that prevented regular folk from summoning them, and considering he is stated as loving the Dunmer the most of all the Tribunal, he obviously has a lot of character. It cheapens the moment of his death by making it non-death.

From a literary perspective, anyway.

We're all obviously free to believe what we choose about Sotha Sil's last moments; however, I am fairly certain we will not hear from Seht again.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:26 pm

So Seht made a pact with daedra and has implied that he and his realm are one and the same.

Sounds familiar...
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:40 pm

So...SOTHA SIL IS MANKAR!!!!!

j/k
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:45 am

So...SOTHA SIL IS MANKAR!!!!!

:facepalm:
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:13 pm

I certainly didn't mean to imply that he was an idiot. Obviously he was the brainiest of all the Tribunal, in many ways.

I only meant to imply that reading his silence as an indication that his body was merely a husk diminishes his character. Not his intelligence, his character. And, considering Sotha Sil was the one who braved Oblivion and the Princes of Misrule to make the pact that prevented regular folk from summoning them, and considering he is stated as loving the Dunmer the most of all the Tribunal, he obviously has a lot of character. It cheapens the moment of his death by making it non-death.

From a literary perspective, anyway.

We're all obviously free to believe what we choose about Sotha Sil's last moments; however, I am fairly certain we will not hear from Seht again.


How would that diminish his character? It was intentional on his part. As you folks have stated before, he knew what was coming with the nerevarine prophecy and likely knew of Almalexia's madness ahead of time. Let the world believe me dead, I shall continue to shape its imperfections, because I love them.

I never said we'd hear from him again, in fact I pretty much stated he can't communicate with us anymore, he no longer has the means. He's still shaping the world though, or his mind isn't able to handle the new "body" after the severance of the heart.

Seriously all you've done is said he was killed by Almalexia despite several oddities conflicting with the statement. No one addresses the fingernails/atrophy/computer consoles/wiring, because they can't come up with an actual explanation or refutation. If he died, it was before Almalexia got there. Even Azura thought he shed his mortality long ago, despite being a manipulative *ahem*, it's an interesting way of putting it. Sure says a lot about his character if he gave up on life. It cheapens the actions of his life.


His Clock-Work city was a failure,


[citation needed]

like the Tribunal and their Temple were failures.


I wouldn't consider them a failure. Almalexia may have had no idea what it was really about, but Vivec and Sil both understood its purpose and served it well. They were guides, not rulers.
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Post » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:18 am

:facepalm:
Do I need to say I was joking after I already said I was joking?
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:54 pm

Yes :teehee:

Though I get the feeling Helseth knew that.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:35 pm

Psh, King Hlaalu Helseth is just a puppet of the fallen empire :P
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Post » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:13 am

[citation needed]

The Teachings, Mystery is dead.

The Tribunal's failure is sort of the theme of Morrowind and Tribunal, if you hadn't noticed.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:04 pm

The Teachings, Mystery is dead.

Care to link to this?


The Tribunal's failure is sort of the theme of Morrowind and Tribunal, if you hadn't noticed.


You seem to be under the impression that the Tribunal's only purpose was to rule Morrowind.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:21 pm

Do a search for Vehk's Teachings. The remnant of ALMSIVI says, "For me, Mystery is dead. My murder-brother is dead."

Stop. My impression is Sotha Sil and Almalexia are dead.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:17 pm

Do a search for Vehk's Teachings. The remnant of ALMSIVI says, "Understand that I am a Master and make my own way. For me, Mystery is dead. That is so hard to write. You cannot feel the pause. My brother is dead."

Stop. My impression is Sotha Sil and Almalexia are dead.


Fixed the quote, and the surrounding context. It doesn't really imply what you seem to think.

That's fine to think. But it's not definite.
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Post » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:27 pm

Psh, King Hlaalu Helseth is just a puppet of the fallen empire :P

:cry:



:tongue:
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Post » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:04 am

It means Sil's dead to the last, surviving member of ALMSIVI. ALMSIVI.

That's fine to think. But it's not definite.

Thank you. Are we done here?
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Post » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:42 am

It means Sil's dead to the last, surviving member of ALMSIVI. ALMSIVI.


Thank you. Are we done here?

Depends on your actions he can be dead as well :P

But I take it that now that Lorkhan's heart was destroyed he lost his powers anyway no? So he is not any more a part of the ALMSIVI but just a mere Vivec, he is not the divine being he was before the heart was destroyed.

So...SOTHA SIL IS MANKAR!!!!!


No no you are wrong. HE IS LORKHAN!!!!!! :shocking: :woot: :ahhh: :rofl: :clap: :D
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