Lord of Souls: An Elder Scrolls Novel : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:05 pm

In which case, a title like "Lord of Souls" is just the thing to hook and reel them in.

yeah, or put them off. I'm an avid fantasy reader myself, and I'm always put off by anything that sounds generic or cliche, i.e - this.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:28 am

Clavicus Vile is the Lord of Souls and I'd hardly consider him cliche'.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:52 am

Nice, the first novel was pretty good, with the exception of the ending (in my opinion).

It was a cliffhanger so there really wasn't an ending. I'm looking forward to reading this next novel.

edit: HGJ is right about LoS not being cliche'. If anything Keyes is just miximizing its potential by giving the sheep something they like to chew on.

edit2: However, I am fond of the title "Lord of Souls".

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:31 pm

Clavicus Vile is the Lord of Souls and I'd hardly consider him cliche'.

I thought Lord of Souls was relating to Vuhon due to him being the owner of umbriel.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:57 pm

I thought Lord of Souls was relating to Vuhon due to him being the owner of umbriel.

That makes sense, maybe the title will have a duel meaning.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:29 am

great another assault on the lore by some fan boy with an over active imagination and alot of money :facepalm:

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:40 pm

yeah, or put them off. I'm an avid fantasy reader myself, and I'm always put off by anything that sounds generic or cliche, i.e - this.

Most fantasy series' have cliche names. I mean, "Lord of the Rings"? Seriously?

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:17 pm

great another assault on the lore by some fan boy with an over active imagination and alot of money :facepalm:

I don't get it? The book didn't conflict with the lore at all.

EDIT: Also, fantasy writers can't have overactive imaginations. That is physically impossible. This is fantasy, after all.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:32 pm

Cool I read the first one, t hope the second one is better though.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:14 pm

great another assault on the lore by some fan boy with an over active imagination and alot of money :facepalm:

How's this an "assault on the lore?" bethesda commissioned Greg Keyes to write the book.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:02 am

OK what part of TES is destroyed now?

It's gotta' be Cyrodiil now. :tongue:

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:31 pm

http://www.randomhouse.com/book/92223/lord-of-souls-an-elder-scrolls-novel-by-greg-keyes/9780345530332/ Have fun with that.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:27 pm

I'm excited for it and Im going to read it when it comes out. I'm currently playing Daggerfall and reading all the books associated to get my lore up to par so I can be raged-out when Skyrim leaves out some tiny detail.

I'm curious to see how Anna?g and Glim are going to leave Umbriel. Heres hoping he doesn't kill them off. I thoroughly enjoyed the novel even with some of its faults.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:25 pm

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0345508025/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books The book's got a cover art now? That's cool.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:05 pm

View PostBaptisedBrawler, on 28 February 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:
I just cant get into fantasy novels anymore. If Im going to read something the furthest I'd go is a book like The Road; otherwise I'd rather read something that pertains to the real world. Especially non-fiction or autobiographies.

Cool story bro.

:rofl:

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:45 pm

Most fantasy series' have cliche names. I mean, "Lord of the Rings"? Seriously?

That wasn't cliche when it was new; the books have become the genre of fantasy and the title cliche do to all the rip-offs of it that came after.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:59 pm

This Imperial city matches the Oblivion one... That's a shame, I wish they'd use the one from the1st edition Pocket Guide.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:03 pm

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0345508025/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books The book's got a cover art now? That's cool.

Oh snap!

oo: Its doing a good job as far as making me want to read the book is concerned.

This Imperial city matches the Oblivion one... That's a shame, I wish they'd use the one from the1st edition Pocket Guide.

Not mutually exclusive, really. The exterior looks like the OB one, yea, but its already proven to be much more epic inside. There is room to go more towards the PGE1 version (which, to be fair, is 500 years prior to the Infernal City) without completely abandoning what Oblivion had. Chances are the illustrator wasn't actually given the PGE1 description and just worked from what Oblivion had.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:54 pm

This Imperial city matches the Oblivion one... That's a shame, I wish they'd use the one from the1st edition Pocket Guide.

That would just cause confusion for fans ~~who haven't read the 1st PGE~~ everyone. The ob version is iconic. The 1st PGE version isn't an icon at all. The Oblivion version of the city's facade is the only option really.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:08 pm

That would just cause confusion for fans ~~who haven't read the 1st PGE~~ everyone. The ob version is iconic. The 1st PGE version isn't an icon at all. The Oblivion version of the city's facade is the only option really.

Yeah, I know, I'd just rather see it in all it's 1st PGE majesty.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:43 am

That wasn't cliche when it was new; the books have become the genre of fantasy and the title cliche do to all the rip-offs of it that came after.

Or maybe none of them are cliche and it's all just our own false projections on them.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:30 am

Or maybe none of them are cliche and it's all just our own false projections on them.

Is the spoon real?

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:37 pm

The cover and sypnosis are quite intriguing. I'm still looking forward to it

The cover is really great.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:53 am

This Imperial city matches the Oblivion one... That's a shame, I wish they'd use the one from the1st edition Pocket Guide.

Even if it's only my own personal rationalization, I would think it's like bronze statues: most of the gold would have been stolen and looted in the many many times the city was embroiled in battle.

Or maybe none of them are cliche and it's all just our own false projections on them.

OR it could be something else entirely. I notice myself often dismissing wide swathes of stories at my workplace based on assumptions, usually also based on the front flaps and back covers as well as the critical acclaim. It is possible that none of them are cliched or pretentious, and that I am wholly wrong.

Could it be that, based on misapplied pop-cultural osmosis, people tend to see fantasy and, off hand, assume it's cliched simply because our culture has so engrained in us the notion that it would "just be another rip-off of Tolkien?" Ooh, chills.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:56 pm

Even if it's only my own personal rationalization, I would think it's like bronze statues: most of the gold would have been stolen and looted in the many many times the city was embroiled in battle.

I just assumed "gold" was actually "white gold". Nonetheless, what I was reffering to was mainly this.

From the shore it is hard to tell what is city and what is Palace, for it all rises from the islands of the lake towards the sky ~~in a stretch of gold~~. Whole neighborhoods rest on the jeweled bridges that connect the islands together. Gondolas and river-ships sail along the watery avenues of its flooded lower dwellings. Moth-priests walk by in a cloud of ancestors; House Guards hold exceptionally long daikatanas crossed at intersections, adorned with ribbons and dragon-flags; and the newly arrived Western legionnaires sweat in the humid air. The river mouth is tainted red from the tinmi soil of the shore, and river dragons rust their hides in its waters. Across the lake the Imperial City continues, merging into the villages of the southern red river and ruins left from the Interregnum.