Lore explanation of the Frost Giant in the Dawnguard trailer : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:18 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZqXKZOS2jQ
Anyone have any ideas, I thought karstaag was the last one, and he was killed in Bloodmoon?
Anyone have an explanation?

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:02 pm

I think it is clear that this particular race is rare or elusive but perhaps Karstaag was the "last one" only on Solstheim. Though, perhaps they are extinct and are undead and coming back from the Soul Cairn, which I believe will be featured in Dawnguard.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:09 pm

Wait until it comes out. Then we can stop speculating and get real answers.

My explanation would be that there are giants in Skyrim, no reason that there aren't frost giants in Skyrim too.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:27 pm

My explanation would be that there are giants in Skyrim, no reason that there aren't frost giants in Skyrim too.

Except they were supposed to be extinct...

Now there's nothing necessarily wrong with that contradiction. After all, it's plausible that everyone on Tamriel would believe them gone when in fact they're just hiding under rocks or something. But there's still a contradiction here.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:18 am

Except they were supposed to be extinct...

Now there's nothing necessarily wrong with that contradiction. After all, it's plausible that everyone on Tamriel would believe them gone when in fact they're just hiding under rocks or something. But there's still a contradiction here.

Dragons were extinct too (except the Akatosh Chantry and the one dragon under Vvardenfell), but that has no relevance to this situation. After all, I doubt that the Firstborn of the King of Atmora would go around Thu'uming Frost Giants back to life. Same with the Falmer.

I'm in the "they were just hiding" camp.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:49 pm

The Falmer were extinct too.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:16 pm

The Falmer were extinct too.

However there was still hundreds of rumors about the falmer being alive, frost giants have barely ever been mentioned, hell they weren't even mentioned in Oblivion and Skyrim!!!

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:00 pm

isnt the soul carin a different plane? if they were in that plane and not the one on nirn then i guess they would be extinct on nirn.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:26 pm

There's a Frost Giant supposedly living on Solstheim during the events of the Infernal City/Lord of Souls, about 4E 40. I think it's unclear whether Karstaag is the name of the giant from Bloodmoon or a collective term, based on an obscure bit of lore that isn't springing to mind...

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:45 pm

The Soul Carin is a pocket realm of Oblivion that siphons undead souls through it. It is possible that the frost giant could come from there, though thats mere speculation. Karstagg was in an isolated area of Tamrial that was only noted by a tribe of Nords. Dragons were considered extinct, even though Paarthurnax was living at the Throat of the Word for "thousands of years" waiting for Alduin to escape the Time-Wound after the ancient nords trapped him. You can't really guess at why certain races pop back. Just wait until Dawnguard comes and we'll see whats what

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:10 am

Karstaag wasn't the last frost giant. In the books they mention frost giants. I think they're just elusive.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:26 pm

I thought it was just a big Frost Troll.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:44 am

Trolls have 3 eyes. Frost giants have 5. It was also using a giant's club.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:30 pm

Connection between trolls, frost giants and spiders. Discuss.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:29 pm

Connection between trolls, frost giants and spiders. Discuss.

Troll gets bitten by radioactive spider, turns into frost giant.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:07 am

I dont remember it saying that Karstaag was the last one, most likely the only one living on Solstheim but not the only one living anywhere.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:16 am

does this mean cliffracers will come back?

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:29 am

does this mean cliffracers will come back?

For the love of Talos, don't even entertain that thought.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:00 am

hehe cliffracers make people jump higher then ghosts or dragons lol

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:42 am

I wanna see some cliffracers. With these graphical improvements...

We need more flying enemies anyways. Dragons are all we got. We have the technology to have real flying enemies.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:48 am

hehe cliffracers make people jump higher then ghosts or dragons lol

Try swinging at a floating critter for five minutes getting nowhere when there's no water in sight for you to get away from him and get out of combat? Oh, and arrows aren't very effective either, and the magic system is...difficult, particularly on a keyboard.

I grew to hate Cliff Racers pretty quickly when I played Morrowind. They were a useless enemy to fight, and an endless annoyance. Not to mention they can spot you from miles away and chase you until they either die or you find water to dive into.

With flying dragons, you can ignore them if they're not immediately hostile.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:45 am

hehe he was very effective then :smile:

though your magick might have failed due to loss of fatigue from running, though idk how magick was hard on keyboard i thought all the games were hard on console but i played on pc more.
i just loved how you hear the noise or the music and went "[censored] where is that thing"

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:24 am

having low agility in MW was the worst. You can't hit anything ever. I got killed by a scrib once because i was just starting a char and I was like "Oh! Scrib Jelly is worth a penny" so I tried to whack it, failed, it paralyzed me and killed my naked character.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:15 pm

I hate cliffracers with a fiery burning passion... as hot as Red Mountain was when it exploded early on in the 4th Era

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:34 pm

We need Cliffracers back. And of course, the tougher "Frost Cliffracers" to go along with them.