I need some lore on the double. I want it all. Wiki, UESP, in-game lore, out-game lore, speculation, the works. Lets start with his sphere. What his realm is guessed to look like. We know he seduced Vivec. That's great! Moving on, I need it all. Quickly!!

UESP says:

""Molag Bal is the Daedric Prince whose sphere is the domination and enslavement of mortals. He is known as the King of [censored]. His main desire is to harvest the souls of mortals and to bring mortals souls within his sway by spreading seeds of strife and discord in the mortal realms. He is a Daedric power of much importance in Morrowind, where he is always the archenemy of Boethiah, the Prince of Plots. In Aldmeris his name means Fire Stone.

Molag Bal's plane of Oblivion is Coldharbour. The book The Doors of Oblivion says that his plane resembles a copy of Nirn, including the Imperial Palace, but all desecrated and ruined. The ground is sludge, the sky is on fire, and the air is freezing.

He is the main source of the obstacles to the Dunmer (and preceding Chimer) people. In the legends, Molag Bal always tries to upset the bloodlines of Houses or otherwise ruin Dunmeri 'purity'. He is also the god of [censored] and is said to be the father (along with Vivec, whom he seduced) of a population of mutant degenerates living in the Molag Amur region of Morrowind. Most disturbingly, he may have fathered the race of vampires by [censored] a mortal woman. It is possible he assisted Jagar Tharn in his temporary procurement of the Imperial throne. He was also responsible for the destruction of the Bosmeri town of Gilverdale at the end of the First Era.

The Hero of Daggerfall received the Mace of Molag Bal in exchange for eliminating a heretic mage. In Daggerfall, Molag's enemies are Ebonarm and Mephala. His summoning day is Chil'a.

In Morrowind, he is seen as one of the four corners of the House of Troubles, one of the "bad Daedra". In Morrowind he enlisted the help of a supplicant in dispatching a lazy minion of his who was not wreaking the havoc and terror he was created for. This deed was also rewarded with the Mace of Molag Bal. Molag Bal also has a daughter named Molag Grunda, a Winged Twilight who was in love with the lowly Frost Atronach Nomeg Gwai. Molag Bal did not approve of the relationship and had them both banished to Oblivion, so they could be punished for eternity.

In Oblivion, he spreads corruption by having a follower incite a local pacifist to murder. Again, the Mace of Molag Bal was given as a reward for this act.""

Moderator: We're not going to discuss the autocensor, just the Daedra who inspires remarks that run afoul of the autocensor, in this thread.

EDIT: Understood... anyway, thought I would add the link to UESP for http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Molag_Bal..

The Sermons implied that he was originally a primordial dreugh chieftain prior to the convention. Not sure why he was confined to Coldharbour, but man is he pissed!

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-Dren

http://www.imperial-library.info/book_daedra/index1.shtml#molag

This has more information.

Vivec took his [censored] and named it Muatra. And with it, he slew scores of monsters (who were probably concepts in reality) and choked Azura with it during his trial

Molag Bal seems to be the King of everything perverted the more I think about it...

It's not always about Vivec and his weaponry. Molag Bal is about plenty of other things too.

That's Sanguine. It's more accurate to say Molag Bal is about defilement, and corruption.

True. Considering Molag Bal's quest for the CoC was to defile or corrupt that one guy.


King of [censored] certainly defines him well...

I wouldn't put it past him to be connected to the Thrassian plague.

Hmmmm...

How so? I'd sooner connect that to Peryite (pestilence daedric prince) or MD (it was quite destructive)

You might wanna be more careful about stringing together the phrases "Molag Bal' and "Give me it all." He'd be all too happy to.

Dammet Hairdo I told you ta stay in the dang trailer!!

Where are all the loreman at? hm? Is it just us now?

There isn't that much about him

The Thirty - six lessons of Vivec has a lot about him and Vivec and their "love life"(?). I peronally think all these lessons are a bunch of crap, but it's a good read.



The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec: Sermon Twelve

As the Hortator pondered the first lesson of ruling kings, Vivec wandered into the Mourning Hold and found that Ayem was with a pair of lovers. Seht had divided himself again. Vivec then leapt through into their likenesses to observe, but he gained no secrets that he did not already know. He left a few of his own behind to make the journey worthwhile.
Then Vivec left the capital of Veloth and wandered far into the ash. He found a span of badlands to practice his giant-form. He made of his feet a less dense material than the divine to keep from falling waist-deep into the earth. At this point the First Corner of the House of Troubles, the Prince Molag Bal, made his presence known.
Vivec looked on the King of [censored] and said:
'How very beautiful you are, that you do not join us. '
And Molag Bal crushed the warrior-poet's feet, which were not invulnerable, and had legions cleave them off. Mighty fires from the Beginning Place were brought like nets to hold Vivec and he let them.
'I would prefer,' he said, 'some kind of ceremony if we are to be married.'
And the legions that took the feet were summoned again and ordered to begin a banquet. Pomegranates sprang from the badlands and tents were raised. A throng of Velothi mystics came, reading the passages of the severed feet on the ground and weeping until the scriptures were wet.
'We must love each other briefly,' Vivec said, 'if at all. I am needed to counsel the Hortator in more important matters because the Dwemeri high priests stir up trouble. You may have my head for an hour.'
Molag Bal rose up and extended six arms to show his worth. They were decorated in runes of seduction and its reverse. They were decorated in the annotated calendars of longer worlds. When he spoke, mating monsters fell out. 'Where must it go?' he said.
'I told you,' Vivec said, 'I am meant to be the teacher of the king of the earth. AE ALTADOON GHARTOK PADHOME.'
With these magic words, the King of [censored] added another: 'CHIM,' which is the secret syllable of royalty.
Vivec had what he needed from the Daedroth and so married him that day. In the hour that Bal had his head, the King of [censored] asked for proof of love.
Vivec spoke two poems to show him such, but only the first is known.
I'm not sure just how much glass it took to make your hair
Twice as much, I am sure, as the oceans have to share
Hell, my sweet, is a fiction written by those who tell the truth
My mouth is skilled at lying and its alibi a tooth
The sons and daughters of Vivec and Molag Bal number in the thousands. The name of the mightiest is a string of power:
GULGA MOR JIL HYAET AE HOOM.
The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.


The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec: Sermon Fourteen

Vivec lay with Molag Bal for eighty days and eight, though headless. In that time, the Prince placed the warrior-poet's feet back and filled them with the blood of Daedra. In this way Vivec's giant-form remained forever harmless to good earth. The Pomegranate Banquet brought many spirits back from the dead so that the sons and daughters of the union had much to eat besides fruit.
The Duke of Scamps came while the banquet was still underway, and Molag Bal looked on the seven pennants with anger. The King of [censored] had become necessary and therefore troubled for the rest of time. His legions and Kh-Utta's fell into open war, but the children of Molag Bal and Vivec were too elaborate in power and form.
The Duke of Scamps therefore became a lesser thing, as did all his own children. Molag Bal said to them: 'You are the sons of liars, dogs, and wolf-headed women.' They have been useless to summon ever since.
The holy one returned at last, Vehk, golden with wisdom. His head found its body had been tenderly used. He mentioned this to Molag Bal, who told him that he should thank the Barons of Move Like This, 'For I have yet to learn how to refine my rapture. My love is accidentally shaped like a spear.'
So Vivec, who had a grain of Ayem's mercy, set about to teach Molag Bal in the ways of belly-magic. They took their spears out and compared them. Vivec bit new words onto the King of [censored]'s so that it might give more than ruin to the uninitiated. This has since become a forbidden ritual, though people still practice it in secret.
Here is why: The Velothi and demons and monsters that were watching all took out their own spears. There was much biting and the earth became wet. And this was the last laugh of Molag Bal:
'Watch as the earth shall crack, heavy with so much power, that should have been forever unalike!'
Then that stretch of badlands that had been the site of the marriage fragmented and threw fire. And a race that is no more but that was terrible at the time to behold came forth. Born of the biters, that is all they did, and they ran amok across the lands of Veloth and even to the shores of Red Mountain.
But Vivec made of his spear a more terrible thing, from a secret he had bitten off from the King of [censored]. And so he sent Molag Bal tumbling into the crack of the biters and swore forever that he would not deem the King beautiful ever again.
Vivec wept as he slew all those around him with his terrible new spear. He named it MUATRA, which is Milk Taker, and even the Chimeri mystics knew his fury. Anyone struck by Vivec at this time turned barren and withered into bone shapes. The path of bones became a sentence for the stars to read, and the heavens have never known children since. Vivec hunted down the biters one by one, and all their progeny, and he killed them all by means of the Nine Apertures, and the wise still hide theirs from Muatra.
The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.

Sheesh... a little pushy, aren't you? Your fingers can't push keys and look up the information?

To be perfectly honest, you could have either linked the texts or quoted small pieces from each. That mass posting was abhorrently unnecessary.

Well Redsrock, there is a lore forum for a purpose. I could just have easily searched for the info gathered here on my own. However, people here achieved more than I could've ever done on my own. Honestly, your post is entirely irrelevant and doesn't contribute anything to my lore search. Which is complete now no thanks to you. Haha. And no, I'm not pushy. Everything I said in the first post was humorous and entirely joke oriented.

No, Redsrock has a point.

Indeed there is. It's for discussing lore, not demanding that people find information you could easily find yourself. Don't be lazy.

What's the difference? And demanding? Not so much guy. Swing and a miss.

The difference between a forum and a restaurant is that in the former you only get served verbally.

I love the irrelevancy of this. It made me laugh. haha. Anyway, your response didn't contribute anything to this thread. Clearly by the reactions of people who gave me an answer, they weren't offended. So there's no need to remind me to not be rude. It was simply to symbolize the urgency.

Actually, I am a little peeved at your current attitude. You are coming off as pushy and sophomoric. When you just wanted info previously, it was happily supplied. Rudely, you demanded more and gave a slap in the face to those who did provide, like me. redstock was only pointing out that you were coming off rude, and not for a second did you take his words to heart, and admit you came off as being a little pushy.

Also, we didn't have to give you squat, told you to look for yourself, and at best, link the imperial library.