It is said somewhere that the armor of the dremora is made by really messed up ways of torture and the souls of the damned or something is IN the armor itself and will eventually drive the wearer insane, whether this is actually due to "souls" or if it is an explanation of why the armor does this to people (toxic metals perhaps? IDK). but the question i have for you or any other sane person is why would you want to live somewhere with deadra that would just love the opportunity to [censored] and torture you and then possibly eat you, why the hech would you want to go there much less live there?

Sorcerers apparently have done that, or attempted to, but then again the logic of TES wizards can always be questionned.

Without bothering to read through the previous pages if my question has already been answered, I want to know why all the different universes of Oblivion, Mundus and Aetherius are all contained within each other like Russian dolls?
Shouldn't each universe exist separately, not encompassing each other?

If this was implemented though, the fact that stars exist in Oblivion wouldn't have such an interesting explanation as being holes in the fabric of Mundus; they'd just be ordinary, mundane stars in the everyday sense. And I also see that with each larger universe, the order of its inhabitants increases in importance and power. Yet it still seems quite strange.

They're not universes. There is only one universe and that is the Aurbis which is everything. Oblivion, Aetherius and Mundus are probably better seen as regions with in.

Before Oblivion and Aetherius formed, all the gods were just mucking about, doing unfashionable things like dying and making mistakes. It wasn't until Akatosh became or discovered time that the et'Ada could maintain their forms long enough to differentiate themselves.

Vekhs teachings has some more on that.

Who is Mnemoli and what is its role in Aurbis?

They seem to be ascetic spirits, lost to memory. They can only appear in the Dawn, when cognitive limitations are lifted from humans, and the Mnem enjoy liberty. Otherwise, I don't know a function.

Thanks, I understand something.

And what about relationships between Mnemoli and Lorkhan?

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I'm uncertain, sorry. There are parts of the lore I haven't reached.

Perhaps Mnemoli is bound and freed from the Heart of the World, as she wanders in through the Hurling Disk. The moons are the wall of the world, or perception limit, and these are denigrating.


That star, chained and unchained, pokes holes in the moons once, twice, three times, reminds me of The Doors of the Spirit[/i.

The Ancestors are not departed. The dead are not under the earth. Their spirits are in the restless wind, in the fire's voice, in the foot-smoothed step. Pay heed to these things, and you will know your absent kin.

Each bone is a door through the wall of the world. Each bone is the road, with Wisdom and Power the travelers. Each bone is the ghost fence that guards us from evil.

I was just reading some in the Imperial Library when I came upon http://www.imperial-library.info/content/oblivion-aevar-stone-singer...



I thought that the similar wording to Alduin the world eater was interesting so I looked it up on UESP and it only linked to a description of the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Gods_G#The_Greedy_Man that was discussed in the story. However at the bottom of that description it states...



Which seems to suggest that Lorkhan is The Adversary of the Skaal. What does that mean with regards to Alduin who I thought was the equivalent of Akatosh? Please correct me because I am really confusing myself. :confused:

The Skaal loathe Lorkhan, their Trickster / enemy, unlike their mainland kin, who revere Lorkhan as their King, Shor. That's what the quote's saying.


The Skaal reversed their rowing.

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Thanks, i realized, that Mnemoli helps in CHIM - deification? And can I ask you about the enantiomorphs? If Lorkhan-who-is-Akatosh is enantiomorph of Aurbis, Anu and Padomay can be enantiomorph of AE?

One question (or two). Did the Chimer have 75% resist to fire? If they didn't how did the Dunmer obtain this ability?

Arynel's post should be consulted. Mnemoli is the interval god. She is the star-note, who is otherwise missing from the regulation of Time. The regulation of Time is the beat of the Doom Drum; the stars of the Heavenly Cord play to the time signature of Akatosh, and the drum and drummer are one. However, discord is the original stasis, whence came all et'Ada, where Mnemoli is. When the Drum breaks from the beat, Mnemoli enters the music. She can be heard, in all five quarters of the World.

Here, Doors of the Spirit tells us, the Heart is bound by the music of Time and Space:



And there's more, because this permeates every level of the myth (Tonal Architecture). And who's the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Myths_of_Sheogorath?


The interplay of the Enantiomorph is even closer to mortals than these yet distant figures. The battle between Anu and Padomay is within them; Masser and Secunda therefore are the personifications of the dichotomy... set in the night sky as Lorkhan's constant reminder to his mortal issue of their duty and this Heart is the Heart of the World, for one was made to satisfy the other. Akatosh and Lorkhan quantify the conflict; the two make the myth (mythopoeia) physical (as above, so below) - which is to say understandable to mortals - through symbolism (i.e., "the music of the spheres," the Six Walking Ways, ethics, gods, etc.). The Aurbis is the myth of the Enantiomorph (i.e., the temporal myth is man, that all the Interplay is one flea of assertion on a wolf of naught).

yep, wonder if I missed something... :teehee: I'm sorry this wasn't formatted well, but I can't be here all day. Job searching, again.