Lorkhan's Heart

Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:37 pm

The Nords believe the chief of the gods had been killed by elven giants in ancient times, and they ripped out Shor's Heart and used it as a standard to strike fear into the Nords. This worked until Ysgramor "Shouted Some Sense" and the Nords fought back again. Knowing that they were going to lose eventually, the Elven giants hid the Heart of Shor so that the Nords might never have their god back.[3]



So if Lorkhan's Heart was found Shor could be revived some how?

Where is the Heart?

If Tsun died and is in Sovngarde, why is Shor not there?
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Adrian Morales
 
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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:35 am

Shor was there. You were Shor, or more specifically, Shor's Ghost, a Shezarrine.

"Seeing the strength of King Wulfharth, Orkey summoned the ghost of Alduin Time-Eater again. Nearly every Nord was eaten down to six years old. Boy Wulfharth pleaded to Shor, the dead Chieftain of the Gods, to help his people. Shor's own ghost then fought the Time-Eater on the spirit plane, as he did at the beginning of time, and he won, and Orkey's folk, the Orcs, were ruined." — http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Five_Songs_of_King_Wulfharth

Y'see the parallel?

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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:59 pm

Yeah... I hope you're not kidding me...
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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:03 am

What if the elves took the heart to some plane of Oblivion? How'd that effect everything.

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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:11 pm

Why would Wulfharth need to plead to Shor to fight Alduin if he, as a Shezzarine, could have himself?

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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:43 pm

He was Shor's Ghost. It's pretty clear within the text. Otherwise Shor was openly walking around Tamriel, something we have never seen another example of.

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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:04 am

Why would they word it in a way that makes it sound like Wulfharth and Shor are separate then? Wulfharth pleads to Shor then he later watches the battle of Shor against Alduin in the spirit plane and learns a shout from it. It doesn't sound like it is saying the two are the same in that passage.

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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:41 pm

Well the Greybeard's have been known to sing Shor's Ghost into the world.. (which lay all powers low)

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Post » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:31 am


Could be propaganda. The tale of Orkey is full of inconsistencies. For one, the Five Songs of King Wulfharth claims that Orkey had stolen their years away in Atmora, which is inconsistent with the time of Wulfharth's first death in 1E 533. That would have placed Wulfharth upon Tamriel's soil, which, again, is inconsistent with the belief that Orkey played this event in Atmora. It's also worth mentioning that the passage on Orkey in Varieties of Faith makes absolutely no mention of Alduin or Wulfharth. All it mentions is that Orkey had bound the Nords to the 'count of winters', with Shor managing to move the curse upon Orkey's people.

As far as I'm concerned, Orkey is the one responsible for Atmora's permanent winter. After slaying Shor, he placed a curse upon the Elder Wood, forever dooming the land and its people to an icy death to remind them of how they rejected Auri-El's light. Over time, the Nords began warring with another over what little they had left that had not succumbed to the ice. Shor could not bear to see his people suffer any longer, so he uplifted most of the curse and placed it upon Orkey's folk, who then became the Kamal.

/speculation
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