Okay, yes, I am hugely interested in Lorkhan.

Anyways, I found a few interesting clues that possibly suggest that Lorkhan isn't actually Lorkhan.

1. His other names include: Sep, Shor, Sheor, and Shezzar. All of those are similar to Sheogorath.

and...

2. Lorkhan supposedly was killed, Jyggalag was bound to be Sheogorath, which could explain that Lorkhan was actually Jyggalag. Now that the Champion of Cyrodiil freed Jyggalag from his madness bounds, he would have returned.


Let me know what you people think about this.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1096021-arden-sul

I think the idea isn't crazy, therefore can't be Sheogorath related.

See what I mean? It is almost like that was a hidden clue that Bethesda put into the Elder Scrolls.

And, also, Sheogorath is Jyggalag, therefore, I believe even as Sheogorath, he had a little bit of order in his mind. Being completely insane would mean he wouldn't be as sophisticated as he was.

just goes to show you there is always madness in order and order in madness.. besides an insane man can be sophisticated on the outside but insane on the inside.... politicians are sophisticated as well and some scientists are sophisticated(they need a bit of madness to learn and test out crazy things)


anyhow sheogorath being lorkhan isn't likely(of course everything and nothing is likely in madness).

Sheogorath is Lorkhan's "Sithis shaped hole" and a myth-echo of the Lorkhan/Akatosh relationship. He is Lorkhan, just not in the sense that the OP describes.

So Sheo is Lorkhan's hole? Is he an in hole or an out hole?

I though they just shared the same entaniomorphic relationship.

Unfortunately, when you enantiomorph, you align yourself within that one myth and become an extension and manifestation of it. Tiber Septim and Zurin Arctus weren't aspects of Doom Drum and Akatosh until they enantiomorphed, channeling the conflict between Anu and Padomay.

Thank you all for the answers! Technically, since almost no one have seen the Aedra or any other gods besides the Daedra, they could all be the same thing or person, or even no one or nothing at all. There is solid evidence of the Daedra, but there isn't complete solid evidence of any Aedra. (Excluding Akatosh and Talos)

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Ama_Nin would disagree.

Aedra (and Daedra) can be seen every day in the concepts they embody. Anytime you think something is beautiful, thats Diabella. Whenever you sell something, thats Zenithar. When you dream thats Vaernima. Azura can be seen every day between 6 and 8 in the morning, etc.

I think you may have the wrong idea when it comes to the god's "identity." Its not like Sheogorath is Lorkhan under a different name, its more like he is a part of Lorkhan's sphere and has the same role as Lorkhan. Yes, the gods (and men, and animals) are all technically one being, the Godhead, this does not mean that they are all him with a slightly different name. The existence of gods can be proven because mortals were there to see them in the Dawn, but the details of who is who vary by culture and by time period due to various factors. Check out the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-monomyth and http://www.imperial-library.info/content/shor-son-shor if you haven't already.

As would http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Jon_Hawker

I think they share an anus.

So if you have a beautiful wet dream about a prosttute that you might kill, it's Dibella, Vaermina, Zenithar, Stendarr, Arkay, Akatosh, Mara, Molag Bal, Nocturnal, Sanguine, Namira, Meridia, Dagon, Mephala, Clavicus Vile, Boethia, Hermaeus Mora, and Azura getting together to make that one dream? You've turned godhood into an insane bureaucracy, which gets Sheogorath in on the dream, which brings in Jyggalag, which means Lorkhan, which brings in Sithis shaped anus holes, which sort of means almost everything and everyone contributes to wet dreams in Tamriel. If you don't get why one of those made the list, I can tell why.

mastvrbation leads to clones? I could believe this link, but will not because it is badly written.

As I recall, Haskill seemed to disagree on Jyggalag's release being connected with the Heart's release. While the idea is not technically unsound, I do like the concept that we don't know everything, that we're looking at this with only a few pieces of the puzzle.

:glare: Lay off the skooma.

The wonderful aspect of this is that because Jyggalag is still classified as a Daedra, he is not involved with the creation of the Mundus. But he still is related to Lorkhan. The two are related, but relation does not imply causality. And that pretty much sums up the Daedra's relationship with the Mundus. They are free to act independently of the Mundus, but on the whole choose not to, aside from inter-Principality quibbling.

Shades: you're not funny, and your certainly not helpful. Put up or stay out.

Yes, so in this case, none of the Aedra are believable or real? I know that the Daedra are real, but we have no consolidated evidence of the existence of physical Aedra, excluding Akatosh, am I right?

The Brush of Truepaint?

When presented with quotes like this below, it's hard not to point out something about it. I expected some thinking.

In Morrowind, we saw mortal forms of Mara, Zenithar, and Talos. The myths of the Aedra shape them and give them power, likely due to whatever happened in the Divine Pact. This also means they appear differently for those who see them differently, since they're in many pantheons, with many variations on details and naming.