I realise that with a game of this size, some performance issues are to be expected so I've taken frame-rate drops and minor bugs with a pinch of salt.

But what I cannot stomach is how certain really important quests are broken, like the Twilight Sepulcher quest which locks you out of the sanctum making it impossible to finish the Thieves guild quest-line.
These types of story progression quests should not be allowed to be broken. Some random townsfolk task, sure. But not thses quests. Extra care and attention ought to have gone into these quests.

Second, after the patch you guys just released, Skyrim (for me at least) crashes A LOT... I mean like several times an hour... It's gonna end up hurting my Ps3 having to hard reset all the time and it's frankly not ok.
Nor was the initial frame-rates from hell problem on the Ps3 for a full-price retail game.

You guys really need to get your act together with this stuff and stop taking us consumers for granted, if the game isn't finished don't release it just because you want it out in time for the fall releases.

I also bought New vegas back in the day and that game was a train-wreck.

You guys make such excellent games and us gamers/your fans are very understanding towards your games and their various problems but there has to be a limit to how much is acceptable.

And I draw the line at broken down story-quests and potential damage to my console.

I realise I am opening myself up to a lot of hate from the most loyal fans on here with this and fine bring it on.

I want to go on record saying that I love this game, one of the best this year but as a consumer I also feel I have the right to demand finished products,
fixing it up as you go along with patches that fixes some problems and creates others and reassuring us that you want to make the game as good as you can for us
is not good enough.

Sky-diving mammoths, dragons flying backswards, townspeople acting werid.... etc etc, that's all acceptable for a game this magnitude, but anything other that I've touched upon above is not ok.
I actually decided not to play Skyrim anymore today after the 10th crash because I AM worried about my Ps3. I'm basically going to have to NOT play the game I bought and love wo wait for you to fix it.

That's really bull...

New vegas wasn't a bethesda game just to point out, that said yeah i've run into some quest shattering glitches myself in the last few days still love the game though all in all they usually get them fixed before too long.

Had the CK been released, it's very possible Beth would have used one of the many bug fixes that would have been made by modders, and converted for use for the consoles. I can't tell you how many bugs Bioware didn't have to fix with Origins when it came out, because a few of the more adept modders created their own patches that Bioware actually emulated for the console versions. Beth would save time and money having their own people test to make sure their patches work if the CK were out now.

I have yet to hit the bugs most have mentioned here over the past week or so, even with the patches that I am forced to take from Steam. The only bug I still experience is not being able to marry Lydia.

but skyrim is da best game evarrrrrrr there's nothing wrong with it you're just baddddddddddd.

/sarcasm

I don't think it's the most loyal fans who are going to give you hate for a perfectly reasonable criticism of the game.

The only complaint i have graphically wise (since i havent had any game breaking glitches) is that on the 360 version even with the attention to detail the game has bethesda and other game developers still use sprite based vegetation. Annoys the hell out of me but i deal with it.

not being able to drop quest items is the worse thing about this game for me, along with the lack of sub menu's.

saying that, can anyone tell me where to take this 'dravin's bow?', i picked it up, 7 weight, yet havent run along the quest for it, wanna get rid and can drop the bloody thing

You never know the mentality of some forum folks though=) some people are very passionate about the games the love:P

I think Skyrim is an amazing game and I give full props to bethesda for it, but these game-breaking glitches and bugs really takes away from the experience imho. I mean I started a new character after completing the main-quest
only to do the thieves guild quest-line with a more appropriate Thief-type character,a nd after spending 33 hours with that character only to have the quest-line broken by a glitch... that was hard to take.

And now that I've started over and a patch is out I'm having the game freeze all the time, I think I've hard reset my Ps3 9 times today...

If I'm gonna nitpick about some things it would be that I wish the marriage thing was a little more fleshed out and some of the story elements of the game could have done with a little directing... And the difficulty of the game is all-over the place

I never had any troubles, and I have a PS3 original.... and I play A LOT

Yeah it seems really weird to me to, everywhere you look on the web some people have all sorts of problems while som have no problems at all...

I didn't have any problems at all the first 30 hours or so on my first char, any bug I found was negligable. I wasn't until I hit a big enough save-file that I started experiencing some truly aweful frame-rates.

On my second character after the patch oddly enough is where I've had most my problems

I don't care about anything else except fixing the quests. It's frustrating when you can't finish it coz it's bugged.

Dravin works on a small farm near Riften (forget the name). He is a Dark Elf. Hopefully, the quest will complete and bow disappear once you give it to him. I heard that sometimes if you find a quest item before getting the quest, it never leaves your inventory and in rare cases, you can't complete the quest. Yet another unacceptable bug.

gamesas math-

Any gamesas game + PS3 = :banghead:

IGN had a post about skyrims problems with PS3 today. One of the devs of New Vegas said that PS3 uses 256mb ram to graphics and the other 256 on everything else. So if this is true PS3 uses only 256mb to the game, and in a game this size its awfully small amount and its probably hard to make games like this to PS3. There will be patches to help you tho, but next time buy a xbox for gaming, ( or the join the master race PC gamers :teehee: ) unless sony doesn't do anything that stupid when making their console.

Quest problems on the other hand are bethedsas fault and they all should be fixed before release.