Lucky 38 Convention : Fallout Series Discussion

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:58 pm

Alright, we'll just have to wait for Goodsprings to make a comfirmation.

And I agree on everything you have said except that Hunters would be disguised when necessary, otherwise they need camoflauge for the wastes.

Alright, I'll talk to the Legion about their armor.

I guess so.

Alright then. How about Primm or Nipton then?

No need for any hostilities, we're all on the same side here.

I'd like to make a deal with the Legion.

If you can send us a Frumentarii to help train my hunters. If they're as good as I've heard more than one is likely still in the Mojave so that shouldn't be a problem.

In return we will give you free crops and open up our towns to traders from your territory but none can remain permenant residents.

I support you on this, Black Mountain would be the best to be in charge of Quarry Jiunction.

"Frumentarii are extremely valuable, you must insure he will receive no injury during the visit, if so then you have a deal".

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:37 am

Raynor looked over to the heavily dressed Frumentarii, and replied.
''Yes, we have been doing better then ever, we have been doing business with Primm, the Mojave Army, who is growing, which means more income for us, which gives us more room to expand, plus we did a deal with the Boomers and right now we are looking forward to opening up a small shop over in Novac, also we are willing to try to set up trade with the Khans and hopefully others. Along with that, the families have been reeling on us to supply them so far, and im hoping that wont change.''

He then looks at the respectful leader of Novac.
''Im sorry, but its hard to remain civil at these meetings, it makes a old man stressful.''

Happens to all of us.

OOC: Can anybody explain to me exactly what the Mojave Army stands for?

I'm not sure whether to join or not.

Sammy Rallo, Chairmen Rep.

"You, Raynor? A waste rat? Oh, you have me all wrong."

*Sammy winked slyly.*

"Why of course it's not our way to pillage, because we have class and we don't need to, the Chairmen are as trusty as they get. And.. threats won't get you far, Raynor, remember that."

"I'm sure the Mayor of Primm will be overjoyed to have lost all that potential revenue. A shame."

*Sammy turns back to the Novac rep.*

"Well then. Nelson it is. We could revitalise the town and build a casino there for sure. The surrounding houses could be rented out too."

OOC: I assume everything in game is much smaller than what it would be in the RP, therefore there should be plenty of space in Nelson.

Alright, we can also have a few traders in the town to make it an excellent place for people to stop on the way to the Strip.

OOC: Assume everything is 10-20 times bigger than in game.

"Frumentarii are extremely valuable, you must insure he will receive no injury during the visit, if so then you have a deal".

So long as he abides by our laws such as no killing or stealing then he will simply show up, teach our Hunters, stay in a private house until the Hunters are all trained, and leave back to Arizona when he is done.

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:19 am

OOC: I meant to say Nipton, not Nelson. Whoops, I changed my previous post.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:33 am

James Carbone - NCR

I'd like to make a deal with the Legion.

If you can send us a Frumentarii to help train my hunters. If they're as good as I've heard more than one is likely still in the Mojave so that shouldn't be a problem.

In return we will give you free crops and open up our towns to traders from your territory but none can remain permenant residents.

that would not be a wise move if you wish to start an allaince with us, Minus that dog over there NCR personnel have orders to shoot all legionaires onsite, If they see this Frumentarii they will do so...regradless if there on duty or not."

*stares at legionaire* "They want you alive to be qeustioned....."

The Lobotomite - Ambassador of Black Mountain

"I will send 4 of my kin to help the Two Headed Bear in this task. In exchange I would like to setup a small outpost in the town."

Deal, you can use the firestation if you like.

detelted bottom part, werid bug.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:18 am

Happens to all of us.

OOC: Can anybody explain to me exactly what the Mojave Army stands for?

I'm not sure whether to join or not.

Alright, we can also have a few traders in the town to make it an excellent place for people to stop on the way to the Strip.

OOC: Assume everything is 10-20 times bigger than in game.

So long as he abides by our laws such as no killing or stealing then he will simply show up, teach our Hunters, stay in a private house until the Hunters are all trained, and leave back to Arizona when he is done.

"Very well then, I shall have him called out of Freeside to meet you".

*Kruser looks to the NCR dog

"They are not masters at infiltration for nothing...NCR." "You will not know him as a Frumentarii".

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:53 pm

Sammy Rallo, Chairmen Rep.

*Sammy turns back to the Novac rep.*

"Well then. Nipton it is. We could revitalise the town and build a casino there for sure. The surrounding houses could be rented out too."

OOC: I assume everything in game is much smaller than what it would be in the RP, therefore there should be plenty of space in Nipton.

If you decide to set up in Niption you have the old Mayors office and townhall only, the townsfolk owns the rest of houses and one guy, Jacob is running a genera store whlist a small NCR camp is in the old trailer park.

Once the new route is cleared some of the houses will be turned into offices and shops for trader caravans and the town will act as Hub for caravans entering the Mojave wasteland,

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:12 am

OOC: (can anybody explain what OOC means please) The Mojave Army is the United Mojave States army controlled by the courier. Not sure how much control they have, but they are supposed to be relatively big.

Raynor looked at Sammy′s hair, and then at his suit, and thought Sammy really might be mad at him, but wanted to maintain his image.
''Sammy, im sorry if i... Torched a spark in you, but we have to be protective of the only reason we became who we are today. Im sure you understand that, you are a business man right.''

Then looking at James.
''I havent had contact with our comrades back west in a long time James, and i have had to take actions to keep us alive, and so far i have done good. I am sorry if not everyone wants our branch to survive, and i can assure you we would love to keep suppling the NCR in the Mojave instead of the Legion, but right now we dont have that much of a choice you see.''

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:16 am

Alice Swift - FoA Rep

*Kruser looks to the Courier deeply considering his offer

"Well, the Fort should be ours on one condition, we can do what we wish with trespassers, no exceptions"

Alice narrowed her eyes and looked over at Kruser, who she didn't trust based on their last meeting.

"I guess you would have to clarify what you consider a "trespasser". What if one of my Doctors suddenly feels sorry for the Legion and stops by the Fort to check if anyone is sick, would you shoot them, because they came over uninvited?" she asked with slight venom in her voice.

Sammy Rallo, Chairmen Rep.

"Why it's fairly obvious that the Chairman would be paying for it, even to a waste rat. Besides, remember that huge order we placed, I think that's confirmation we can be trusted, we could've just pillaged your old factory while your company was dying if we so wished."

*Sammy smiled right back*

"And Nelson is open too, but is far away from Primm while the Bison Steve is a good compromise whilst also providing the necesarry structure to rebuild it into a working casino."

"Sammy Darlin' you sure know how to make friends," Alice rolled her eyes. She couldn't believe that he just called Raynor a "waste rat".

Johnny Gozallo-Goodsprings

We will welcome the NCR support, but we certainly don't want you svcking up Goodsprings, also would you be capable of securing the road, maybe from Ranger Station Foxtrot. If the road does get cleared, trade would be welcome with Westside and other such parties.

Oh, and the Goodsprings hospital sounds good. Maybe you could have four hospitals on each side of the Mojave. Mormon Fort (North) Nelson or Novac (East) Cottonwood or Nipton (South) Goodsprings (West) It'll provide fair travel checkpoints for medical assistance.

Alice smiled at Johnny. "Exactly, that is our plan. We would like to set up enough clinics, so that we can be reached by all the citizens of the Mojave. Once we finished the Vault Clinic and set up Cottonwood, we are looking at Camp Golf as a suitable place for a Psychiatric Hospital. After that we are going to scout out the regions to establish more smaller clinics. If you any of you have buildings in mind that are easily accessible and wouldn't need too much renovation work, please pass along your suggestions to either me or my associates at the Mormon Fort."

The Lobotomite - Ambassador of Black Mountain

"I will send 4 of my kin to help the Two Headed Bear in this task. In exchange I would like to setup a small outpost in the town."

*Turns back to address the entire meeting.*
"Now that this matter is done I would like to move onto my proposal. I would like to slightly extend the territory of Black Mountain to gain ownership of Quarry Junction. A working quarry will be an immensely valuable asset to the Mojave and we will provide anyone within its borders with mined material at a well discounted price."

Alice frowned. "Quarry Junction holds a few bad memories for me. You have my support in this matter. I'm sure it will be a valuable asset to the re-building effort. It's about time someone starts up the quarry operation," she said and this time she smiled.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:11 am

Alice Swift - FoA Rep

Alice narrowed her eyes and looked over at Kruser, who she didn't trust based on their last meeting.

"I guess you would have to clarify what you consider a "trespasser". What if one of my Doctors suddenly feels sorry for the Legion and stops by the Fort to check if anyone is sick, would you shoot them, because they came over uninvited?" she asked with slight venom in her voice.

"Sammy Darlin' you sure know how to make friends," Alice rolled her eyes. She couldn't believe that he just called Raynor a "waste rat".

Alice smiled at Johnny. "Exactly, that is our plan. We would like to set up enough clinics, so that we can be reached by all the citizens of the Mojave. Once we finished the Vault Clinic and set up Cottonwood, we are looking at Camp Golf as a suitable place for a Psychiatric Hospital. After that we are going to scout out the regions to establish more smaller clinics. If you any of you have buildings in mind that are easily accessible and wouldn't need too much renovation work, please pass along your suggestions to either me or my associates at the Mormon Fort."

Alice frowned. "Quarry Junction holds a few bad memories for me. You have my support in this matter. I'm sure it will be a valuable asset to the re-building effort. It's about time someone starts up the quarry operation," she said and this time she smiled.

"Now now Mrs Swift, why would one of your doctors be foolish enough to do that"? There was a mocking tone in his voice.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:32 am

James Carbone - NCR

that would not be a wise move if you wish to start an allaince with us, Minus that dog over there NCR personnel have orders to shoot all legionaires onsite, If they see this Frumentarii they will do so...regradless if there on duty or not."

*stares at legionaire* "They want you alive to be qeustioned....."

Deal, you can use the firestation if you like.

detelted bottom part, werid bug.

You will not.

Novac's not NCR, if the Frumentarii goes into Nipton and you know it go ahead but on my land he is allowed.

"Very well then, I shall have him called out of Freeside to meet you".

*Kruser looks to the NCR dog

"They are not masters at infiltration for nothing...NCR." "You will not know him as a Frumentarii".

Thank-you.

If the Hunters are taught by both Rangers and Frumentarii they will be more than a match for any criminals in my territory.

If you decide to set up in Niption you have the old Mayors office and townhall only, the townsfolk owns the rest of houses and one guy, Jacob is running a genera store whlist a small NCR camp is in the old trailer park.

Once the new route is cleared some of the houses will be turned into offices and shops for trader caravans and the town will act as Hub for caravans entering the Mojave wasteland,

You sure there are no open houses? If not then I will make Nelson a resort for those stopping on their way to the Strip.

OOC: (can anybody explain what OOC means please) The Mojave Army is the United Mojave States army controlled by the courier. Not sure how much control they have, but they are supposed to be relatively big.

Raynor looked at Sammy′s hair, and then at his suit, and thought Sammy really might be mad at him, but wanted to maintain his image.
''Sammy, im sorry if i... Torched a spark in you, but we have to be protective of the only reason we became who we are today. Im sure you understand that, you are a business man right.''

Then looking at James.
''I havent had contact with our comrades back west in a long time James, and i have had to take actions to keep us alive, and so far i have done good. I am sorry if not everyone wants our branch to survive, and i can assure you we would love to keep suppling the NCR in the Mojave instead of the Legion, but right now we dont have that much of a choice you see.''

OOC: OOC means Out of Character. And thanks for the information. I need to know how much independant power I would have over my own forces if I were to join.

You must do what you can to survive.

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:25 am

"Now now Mrs Swift, why would one of your doctors be foolish enough to do that"? There was a mocking tone in his voice.

"Maybe my doctors are trying to be "masters of infiltration"?" Alice replied in the same mocking tone. "Why does the Legion always have to set themselves apart? Why can't you at least TRY and trust someone else, work with the rest of the Mojave to re-build this nation? Try to make something out of this wasteland?" Alice threw her hands up, as if to say I give up...

OOC: R.J. OOC means Out Of Character :wink:

It's a common thing to do in RPs, to signal when you, the author, makes a comment about the RP.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:51 am

Sammy Rallo, Chairmen Rep.

*Sammy chose to ignore Ms. Swift, knowing that friends and enemies are but one and the same.*

"Well, a town soon to be bursting with caravans seems like a swell place for a casino, just think of all the merchants loaded with caps coming back to NCR territory.

"Casinos could be setup in both Nelson and Nipton, although, people would have no reason to go to Nelson, unlike Nipton, unless they are specifically going for the casino or perhaps workin' the mine."

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:45 am

"Maybe my doctors are trying to be "masters of infiltration"?" Alice replied in the same mocking tone. "Why does the Legion always have to set themselves apart? Why can't you at least TRY and trust someone else, work with the rest of the Mojave to re-build this nation? To make something out of this wasteland?" Alice threw her hands up, as if to say I give up...

OOC: R.J. OOC means Out Of Character :wink:

It's a common thing to do in RPs, to signal when you the author makes a comment about the RP.

*Kruser sighs at Alice Swift

"Due to the other factions not following the Legion's beleifs, that's why... we only work with other factions when it benefits the Legion".

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:03 pm

Sammy Rallo, Chairmen Rep.

*Sammy chose to ignore Ms. Swift, knowing that friends and enemies are but one and the same.*

"Well, a town soon to be bursting with caravans seems like a swell place for a casino, just think of all the merchants loaded with caps coming back to NCR territory.

"Casinos could be setup in both Nelson and Nipton, although, people would have no reason to go to Nelson, unlike Nipton, unless they are specifically going for the casino or perhaps workin' the mine."

It could go either way.

We could make it a mining town or into a resort town.

Either way there are costumers, just one is richer than the other.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:52 am

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

How about that trading deal I offered earlier of both of us regulating prices so people don't sell it too low and taxes so nobody can charge too much?

"Of course, it is a good idea"

Alice Swift - FoA Rep

Alice nodded at Steve Henderson, "I completely understand and it wasn't my intention for injured people to travel a long ways. The Clinic will be like a head quarter for the region. We could have doctors travel around once a week to the various towns and basically look after the people there. The clinic will have all the instruments we need, if say for instance, someone needs surgery. Once that clinic is set up, we could start looking for property on the western end of the Mojave. The Followers ultimate goal will be to provide medical service to everyone in the Mojave and establish a clinic in every area, north, south, east and west. A clinic that will be easily reachable from every location. Also please know that we will gladly accept your donation. Furthermore, I understand your decision not to provide immediate help for the Cottonwood Cover project, but can I count on your assistance if we find anything closer to Primm?" Alice asked with a smile.

"Of course you can, the Followers have always had the noblest of goals and we will try to help you achieve your goals in anyway we can"

Raynor looked at the courier and then at the mayor of Primm.
''I trust you guys will do the right, and keep an eye on things, i dont want my boys to get injured. Also it would be a waste of ammo.''
He then took up a paper and a pen and started writing something, while sipping occasionally from his wine bottle.

"Please calm down. The chairmen will not be establishing any casinos in Primm"

The Lobotomite - Ambassador of Black Mountain

*Turns back to address the entire meeting.*

"Now that this matter is done I would like to move onto my proposal. I would like to slightly extend the territory of Black Mountain to gain ownership of Quarry Junction. A working quarry will be an immensely valuable asset to the Mojave and we will provide anyone within its borders with mined material at a well discounted price."

"Primm will support this. If you want we can offer labour from our prisoners, the well behaved ones anyway"

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:05 am

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

"Of course, it is a good idea"

"Of course you can, the Followers have always had the noblest of goals and we will try to help you achieve your goals in anyway we can"

"Please calm down. The chairmen will not be establishing any casinos in Primm"

"Primm will support this. If you want we can offer labour from our prisoners, the well behaved ones anyway"

"Mr Mayor, would there be any prisoners that can head to Arizona with the Legion"?

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:59 pm

Sammy Rallo, Chairmen Rep.

"Way I see it, Nelson could be both a resort and mining town. Miners live on the lower level and the Casino is on the higher level, and after a hard day of work, what better place for the miners to spend their earnings than in the casino? Upper tier houses would be rentable, some purchasable for the professional gamblers. Seems like a sound plan."

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:57 pm

Raynor looked at Alice and laughed at her comment on Sammy′s respond to himself.
Then looking at Henderson, and then back at Sammy.
''If you would want our support for renovating the Bison Steve to fit you too, then it would have cost you about 50000 caps, plus taxes of course.'' He smiled a evil looking smile.'' Im sure you are too cool to swing with that am i right?''

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:49 am

Alice Swift - FoA Rep

*Kruser sighs at Alice Swift

"Due to the other factions not following the Legion's beleifs, that's why... we only work with other factions when it benefits the Legion".

"So you think that all of us, sitting around this table, believe in the same things? Well think again, Kruser. Our believes are as different as day and night, yet here we are and we are working together for the greater good of the Mojave." Alice looked around the room, her eyes rested on Sammy for a moment. "Well, most of us at least," she added with a chuckle.

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

"Of course you can, the Followers have always had the noblest of goals and we will try to help you achieve your goals in anyway we can"

Alice inclined her head with a smile. "It's kind of you to say and yes, we are trying to create a better way of life for the people of the Mojave. It's been 200 years since the Great War, I think we all agree that it is high time to start cleaning this world up," she said.

Thank-you.
If the Hunters are taught by both Rangers and Frumentarii they will be more than a match for any criminals in my territory.

Alice raised her eyebrows. "And you think you can get Rangers and Frumentarii to work together? Or are you planning on choosing different times on having either one or the other in town? Also, make sure that your 'Legion friend' wears his colors, otherwise your town could be infiltrated before you know it, then it's only a small step to being completely absorbed into the Legion," she said in huff and crossed her arms.

OOC: Last post for a while. I'm heading home! LOL

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:09 pm

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

"Mr Mayor, would there be any prisoners that can head to Arizona with the Legion"?

"The previous offer regarding prisoners on death row still stands. I would rather make slaves than corpses"

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:49 am

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

"The previous offer regarding prisoners on death row still stands. I would rather make slaves than corpses"

"Excellent, how much caps would you prefer for them?"

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:14 pm

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

"Excellent, how much caps would you prefer for them?"

"Prices will vary from case to case"

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:44 pm

James Carbone - NCR

There are free houses but the Mayor reqeusted they were kept in the towns, until the new route was cleaned atleast, just like Sammy the towns gonna be bursting with caravans, they want to keep their options opens.

I agree with your idea about Nelson sam, I think some NCR investors could also invest in that project to help it get started.

and very well NCR will not shoot any legionaires in Novca... *mutters slienty* "outside if an different story however"

hah "legion allies", Alice let me tell you about this tribe called the Twisted Hairs, back in the legions early days they forged an alliance to act as scouts for the legion whlist they conquered Arizona. Once they did, the legion "rewarded" the Hairs by enslaving them into the legion, any that resisted were crucified along the sides of Interstate 40.

*looks at henderson*

what was that talk about you not being a slaver earlier....

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:00 am

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

"Of course, it is a good idea"

Great, we should discuss details later.

Sammy Rallo, Chairmen Rep.

"Way I see it, Nelson could be both a resort and mining town. Miners live on the lower level and the Casino is on the higher level, and after a hard day of work, what better place for the miners to spend their earnings than in the casino? Upper tier houses would be rentable, some purchasable for the professional gamblers. Seems like a sound plan."

Alright, sounds good.

Alice Swift - FoA Rep

Alice raised her eyebrows. "And you think you can get Rangers and Frumentarii to work together? Or are you planning on choosing different times on having either one or the other in town? Also, make sure that your 'Legion friend' wears his colors, otherwise your town could be infiltrated before you know it, then it's only a small step to being completely absorbed into the Legion," she said in huff and crossed her arms.

OOC: Last post for a while. I'm heading home! LOL

No, I am trying to get them to become less of enemies with each other.

What is the point of their fighting now?

The NCR's trying to regain its senses after the loss at Hoover Dam and the Legion is trying to regain control of Arizona since its near collapse.

I may just be the representative of a small town but neither of them have opposing wants or needs anymore.

Ambassador Steve Henderson - Mayor of Primm

"The previous offer regarding prisoners on death row still stands. I would rather make slaves than corpses"

Can we make a deal about anybody who breaks the law in my territory? I want to hand them off to your prison but I'm not sure their safety can be guranteed if they're not far from becoming Legion slaves.

James Carbone - NCR

There are free houses but the Mayor reqeusted they were kept in the towns, until the new route was cleaned atleast, just like Sammy the towns gonna be bursting with caravans, they want to keep their options opens.

I agree with your idea about Nelson sam, I think some NCR investors could also invest in that project to help it get started.

and very well NCR will not shoot any legionaires in Novca... *mutters slienty* "outside if an different story however"

hah "legion allies", Alice let me tell you about this tribe called the Twisted Hairs, back in the legions early days they forged an alliance to act as scouts for the legion whlist they conquered Arizona. Once they did, the legion "rewarded" the Hairs by enslaving them into the legion, any that resisted were crucified along the sides of Interstate 40.

*looks at henderson*

what was that talk about you not being a slaver earlier....

This is a very different situation.

I'm asking them to help train our Hunters while my men guard the river. We're working together, I am not a part of the Legion. And their not expanding, they're remnants.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:11 pm

James Carbone - NCR

There are free houses but the Mayor reqeusted they were kept in the towns, until the new route was cleaned atleast, just like Sammy the towns gonna be bursting with caravans, they want to keep their options opens.

I agree with your idea about Nelson sam, I think some NCR investors could also invest in that project to help it get started.

and very well NCR will not shoot any legionaires in Novca... *mutters slienty* "outside if an different story however"

hah "legion allies", Alice let me tell you about this tribe called the Twisted Hairs, back in the legions early days they forged an alliance to act as scouts for the legion whlist they conquered Arizona. Once they did, the legion "rewarded" the Hairs by enslaving them into the legion, any that resisted were crucified along the sides of Interstate 40.

*looks at henderson*

what was that talk about you not being a slaver earlier....

Raynor looked at the Legion Frumentarii in heavy armor, and smiled.
Then stating a few words to James. ''James, i see how you hate the Legion, but they are surely under new leadership after the death of Caesar and Lanius right? If you guys start another all out war i would have to stop suppling the Legion side, and rely on you again, and im unsure if i even would be accepted by my brothers back west, as you said, i am being called a traitor right. So here is my offer, i would like someone, if anyone it could as well be you, to defend my case back west, and lets say, that i never dealt with the Legion. The bang, that misunderstanding never happened. I will keep my outpost near Arizona of course, as it is helping profits in the east, but i might have to remove it anyways due to my new shop in Novac, but for now im keeping it. I am hoping i got your support, we are the reason NCR has managed to stay armed, and i got much influence, you dont want that ruined now would you?''