I know what you going to say, just reroll a new play through. I will but hear me out. I first wanted to have a charactor to at least reach lvl 50, maybe even 75 to get all the stuff i want. I have played the whole run on survival. While it was fun at first, im now too OP. What im left with is a bunch of repeatable quest that are too easy. Well, you might say, dont use all your lengenary gear or all that OP crafted gear you got, otherwords gimp yourself to keep to keep it real. To me thats self defeating for several reasons. First whats the point for grinding for epic gear if I wont use it. Second, whats fun about leveling up if im just going to find ways to not benifit from it. I like games that challenge you, not games where you have to challenge yourself. Im not bashing the game, its probably my favorite game this gen. I am however, trying to find out if im missing something or is the end content really this boring? I hope im wrong or future dlc has some better end game stuff. Well there it is, besides rerolling and self gimping my play style whats left? I know i can build up settlements or go exploring for getting more game time, but my question is: What is there left to challenge me as i go forward? Or after 50 hours should i accept the fact the challenge is gone and just be thankful i at least have stuff to do?

Well, uh it figures that at some point for some people the game might be easy and level 40 sounds about right.

At some point there will be some rebalance Mod's that might be helpful for adding difficulty for late game. Something I've been wondering about is how the area's are leveled...Seems like the world doesn't quite level with you like it does in Skyrim where say Bandits could level up to say 25...I'd swear that Raiders around Sanctuary fall off well before then.

This isn't an MMO. 99% of the time the end game, as you refer to it, in an open ended single player is going to be a cake walk. So yes unfortunately if you crave challenge you will have to gimp yourself.

Hopefully no matter what system you play on there will be a mod that makes it more of a challenge or gives more to do. I'm sure both of those will happen eventually.

How often did you die?

hardly ever now. On my last quest in the MQ i did a few times. Why?

I can't really think of any Bethesda game that I've played, that wasn't, for the most part easy by the end..

You see though i still have perks to unlock that would make me even MORE powerful. I mean whats the point in that if theres no content to justify it? Seems like over kill. EDIT: I know some zone have harder enemies. I think the southeast part of the map has some ringers.

I'm sure there will be a DLC that'll have bullet sponge enemies that blatantly cheat just like Fallout 3 had.

Dude, it is a single player game, you are supposed to play through all the content and then it is over until expansion comes, wtf? It's not mmo.

Granted its a single player game. Yet it was marketed as have no level cap, 270 perks to get, ect. Hell its going to be a borefest trying to get the level 50 achievment. What am i going to do for 10 more levels, the same repeatable quest i have ALREADY done with the minuite men? Its like all the repeatable quest from all factions sends you to the same places. I mean i still have perks to unlock to make me even stronger and for what end? To make an already easy game easier? Finally, this inst just your run of the mill singal player game. they want you to keep playing long after the MQ but they dont make a good case for it.

That the end-game is too easy isn't news at all. Every Beth game I've played has that same characteristic. It's what inspired me to go into modding - to develop an alternate end-game with real challenging bite.

The game mush cater to a range of players.

Taking time to build yourself up, then not being happy because you are built up, makes little sense.

wait for mods...

The game isn't limiting your fun. Use your imagination, use your overwheliming POWER to inspect every corner of the game, or play it differently than you have, or just wait for the mod community to create a mod that can pummel your character into a blood stain on the road.

IMO the BOS attack on the Castle ought to be more common to make it fun. Hopefully a mod will make the BOS fleet attack more often xD!!!

There isn't a lot to do I agree, but fortunately I enjoy the combat enough that simply clearing out raiders and the like is still fun.

The Real End Game is

Moding the game.

Vanilla as a flavour has no end game either, it's the base of which to get started with, say, ice cream. Endgame flavours are more like triple chocolate fudge with pieces of cookie dough and a heart attack to finish.

I'm almost level 50 and there is still lots of stuff I haven't done and quests not taken yet. It's easier than it was in the beginning, but... oh crap, a Behemoth spawned behind me lmao

This game needs something like Skyrim's Civil War Overhaul or Immersive patrols, get lots of levelled battles going on, both pre and after the main quest. I want to march through the wasteland with my army of synths dammit (someone make that happen too)

This isn't a mmo. There is no end-game. You hit the soft cap and practically beat/finished the game. Time to start over.

Also seems my estimate about a 55-65 softcap were close. This leaves many replay value for different playstyles.

BTW, did you have Idiot Savant? It's OP for levels.

This... very much this!

There is no "end game" in a single player game!

There comes a time that some people should just say.... It's not my type of game.

I hit lvl 52ish before I finished the main quest. I explore and fully search every location I can. I've built extensively in the settlements. And on top of all this, I'm still nowhere near done.

No, BGS doesn't care if you continue or not. They put the OPTION into the game for people who want to keep playing and min/max their characters.

Many of us do not want to play an RPG for "challenge". Challenge is only one element of game design and it is not important for many game types, including role playing games. For RPGs, challenge is a relatively minor element. It's critical for competitive games such as fighting games, racing, even puzzle games or similar types where you try to beat a time score or other high score. For me, playing puzzle games is ok but quickly becomes boring because you just do the same thing over and over. Same with racing, etc. RPGs are a different genre with different priorities from such games, so they may not be your favorite type of game. Besides, this is a hybrid action-RPG anyway, and there are pretty much no pure RPGs left anymore, unfortunately. What is easy for you is difficult for someone else, so every person has to modify the game in some way (through in-game choices or creating/using mods) to match what they want it to provide. BGS offers the support to do this, unlike most companies, so you should be glad you have the option (or soon will for creating/using mods in a couple of months).

In short, the game isn't about doing quests or beating enemies. BGS games are about exploration. Other elements are there as an excuse for exploration, but exploration is the primary goal of any BGS game. That is the answer to your question: go exploring until you have seen and found everything there is to see and find. If that's not fun for you, then BGS products are not your cup of tea, that's all, but they are very fun for many other players.

Yup, Legendary Glowing Albino Radscorpions for every spawn point!