Is Lycanthropy a Curse or a Disease like vampirism?

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:59 pm

For what i know so far about TES games is that vampirism is a disease that is very hard to cure,when u are bited or injuried by a vampire in about a week u turn into one and everybody will hate you like Horker.But when i discovered about The werewolfs in TES games,and about bloodmoon i tought that lycanthropy was a disease too,but no,when i played skyrim the point of the werewolf disease totaly changed,looks like more a curse too me.By 3 reasons:
-You need to drink the werewolf pure blood to become one(Wtf i tought that u need to be bited like in bloodmoon.)
-Hircine(deadric lord of hunts) created it.
-In the companions quest,Kadlak hints more than clear that lycanthropy is a curse saying about
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witches cursing them , killing the werewolf spirit,hircine taking their souls from sovengarde and blah blah blah

Those things goes totaly agaisn't the Lore i know about TES.If lycanthropy is really a curse how the hell there are lycanthrope animals?
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Isabel Ruiz
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:58 pm

It's not a curse nor a disease.
It is a curse for those who don't enjoy the hunt, like Kodlak, and want a very different after-life. But it IS a blessing to those such as Aela, who do relish it.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:51 pm

it's a blessing
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Chris Ellis
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:26 pm

it's a blessing

I have to agree,but the ways to contract lycanthropy still makes me wonder,a disease?,a curse?,a bleesing?, all those three?or something above?
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:56 am

The Sanies lupinus virus is both, unless you like the ability; in which case it's a blessing and a disease. The Companions' ritual is either a blessing or a curse and not a disease.

Vampirism is a disease and a blessing/curse.

I don't personally see how the idea of a disease being a curse is in any way inconsistent. It would make sense for a curse to be in pathogen form if you intend on spreading it.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:48 pm

I don't know.
Serving Hircine in the afterlife sounds like fun.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:04 pm

I don't know.
Serving Hircine in the afterlife sounds like fun.

Until you got nervous from reciving Hircine orders.Or bored from hunting.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:16 pm

Sounds to me like people are confused about the question, is it a disease (biological cause) as in you're bitten and contract the condition or is it a curse (supernatural cause) given to you in some kind of ritual or hex. It doesn't matter if you think it's a blessing, the question is: Disease or Curse?

Not what people perceive it as. To some it might be considered a curse but is it actually one? I don't know but I'd like to know for sure what the lore says.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:42 pm

Seems...curse-ish to me, due to the nature of the cure, and the way it'll affect afterlife.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:37 pm

Sounds to me like people are confused about the question, is it a disease (biological cause) as in you're bitten and contract the condition or is it a curse (supernatural cause) given to you in some kind of ritual or hex. It doesn't matter if you think it's a blessing, the question is: Disease or Curse?

Not what people perceive it as. To some it might be considered a curse but is it actually one? I don't know but I'd like to know for sure what the lore says.


But that dichotomy ignores the possibility of a disease created by supernatural means, making it both a disease and a curse.

Clearly TES games refer to both vampirism and Lycanthropy as diseases (in most cases), but they're also referred to as having strong links with certain deadric princes. There is a clear mix of the biological and the supernatural.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:54 am

Sounds to me like people are confused about the question, is it a disease (biological cause) as in you're bitten and contract the condition or is it a curse (supernatural cause) given to you in some kind of ritual or hex. It doesn't matter if you think it's a blessing, the question is: Disease or Curse?

Not what people perceive it as. To some it might be considered a curse but is it actually one? I don't know but I'd like to know for sure what the lore says.

Bloodmoon(Morrowind Dlc) states that is a disease,as the older games.But skyrim states that is a curse.
Edit:In the old games like bloodmoon,the main wain to contract was being injured by a lycanthrope.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:49 pm

It's a curse. Made by Hircine and some cursed minds under it's effect thinks it's blessing! Bhah...and you can't get rid of those beasts because some of them are essentials. This means some orders in Skyrim are absolutely corrupted. Facing that truth the Thane of Five Holds, Stormblade Beogar the Alduin Slayer retired from the world and joined to live in stillness with the Greybeards. When the Hero and protector of Skyrim was gone it was perfect time for Thalmor agent Cirvael to cross the border of Skyrim.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:51 pm

It's a divine disease. It works as both a curse and a disease, or in some cases, a gift. It starts off as a disease called Sanies Lupinus then it grows into a curse/blessing of "Lycanthropy". After 3 days, the disease becomes a curse/gift for the individual. Shifting under the full moon, nightly or in the case of Skyrim, at will.

Until you got nervous from reciving Hircine orders.Or bored from hunting.

I doubt all you do there is hunting. I mean, Daedric Realms can be huge in size. Hircine's realm alone is filled with mazes and the geographical region outside of it is made up of large, sparse forests, a huge savannah, a tributary and canyons. Not to mention the red sun, the bloody rivers and the single moon. During the day, werebears/nords hunt for people and at night, Hircine comes out with a pack of werewolves. I am sure during the day there are plenty of things to do than just sleep around like the werewolves did in Bloodmoon.

Sovngarde sounds lame....just sitting down and belching for eternity.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:26 pm

I don't know.
Serving Hircine in the afterlife sounds like fun.


I would love to hunt in Hircine's realm, but I feel I'd turn into General Zaroff.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:17 pm

It's a divine disease. It works as both a curse and a disease, or in some cases, a gift. It starts off as a disease called Sanies Lupinus then it grows into a curse/blessing of "Lycanthropy". After 3 days, the disease becomes a curse/gift for the individual. Shifting under the full moon, nightly or in the case of Skyrim, at will.

It can't be disease because I received it even I was wearing the Amulet of Disease Immunity which gives 100% resistance against the diseases. It works against the vampirism but not against the Lycanthropy.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:47 pm

I would love to hunt in Hircine's realm, but I feel I'd turn into General Zaroff.

Yeah, I would definetly build a cabin somewhere. But I can't imagine the competition. All werewolves go to his Realm when they die, it would be a challenge to vie for the master's favor.

General Zaroff...I love the most dangerous game, I read it a few weeks ago actually. People in his realm definetly have no qualms about killing other people for sport.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:26 am

Wtf i tought that u need to be bited like in bloodmoon

That sentence is an insult to the english language.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:42 pm

Lychanthropy is a Blessing, created by the Daedric Prince of the Hunt, Hircine. Though, just like a lot of things, it can be viewed as a curse, if you do not want it. But Hircine created Lychanthropy as a blessing for his followers, and treats those infected with it as his children and uses them as his Hounds during the Hunt and in his Plane of Oblivion, known as The Hunting Grounds. And upon their death, Hircine takes them to his Hunting Grounds, to Hunt with him for all of eternity(again, that could be a blessing or curse).
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:32 pm

It can't be disease because I received it even I was wearing the Amulet of Disease Immunity which gives 100% resistance against the diseases. It works against the vampirism but not against the Lycanthropy.

It's both, I am sure.

Daggerfall: "You must be (player's name). (hunter's name) said you might be coming to see me, although (he) doubted that you would heed (his) warning. Sadly, most do not, already too befuddled by the Beast within to save themselves. Yes, the curse of lycanthropy can be lifted, although I hesitate to speak of it, as the cure may be worse than the disease."[/i]

Bloodmoon: "That's it! Now, I will pour the Glenmoril brew over the innocent's heart. The heart must get wet...soaked. Yes, there we go. Now, to recite the proper incantation.. There! It is done! The heart has been properly bewitched. Now, place it back in the corpse of the innocent. Do this, and then speak with me again. You are almost free of your curse. Almost...."

"Congratulations, Faern Sargtlin. You have survived the Rite of the Wolf Giver and have been cured of your lycanthropy. Never again will you turn into a werewolf, and never again will you contract the disease."

[i]"In three days' time, the victim will become a werewolf himself. During these three days, though, a simple Cure Disease spell can stop the infection. Wait...you have rid yourself of the infection."

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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:54 am

it's a blessing

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