That + .exe support. But that would mean getting viruses. So no.

I'm guessing you're right, and since I don't use a Mac, and don't want to, it wouldn't effect me if it was available for Mac, on the other hand, since it wouldn't hurt me, I have no reason to object to it, provided that Bethesda needing to modify the game for Mac support does not cause the Windows version to suffer in some way. And I'm sure it would broaden their potential market, but by how much, I wonder? Considering how many games DON'T run on Macs, and the fact that I can't name a single Mac exclusive game, I'd imagine that most people have come to the same conclusion as me and decided that if you want to use your computer for gaming, really, Windows is the only viable option, and would therefore go with that if they wanted a gaming computer. Therefore, I'd guess that the majority of the potential desktop computer market for the game would be PC users, so is there a large enough potential player base on the Mac to make supporting it worth the additional cost and effort? I actually don't know.

Well, I have already been cursed many times with sticky keys So annoying when sneaking and then realising I have pressed shift 5 five times too quick. Then oblivion stops working. Then I have to open up task manager to close the message. OK maybe Macs are better in some aspects, but the compatibility is why I dont like them for games. Maybe if developers made more games available for Mac, then I would buy a Mac. And, of course, I dont really wish for you to suffer.

I was. -_-

So long as Bethesda doesn't have to waste valuable resources that hinder the Windows version, why the hell not? I don't like Macs but a wider audience= more money for Bethesda.

I don't even think one is better than the other.

I need mac because I need Final Cut Pro on the rare occasions that I'm actually working. Plus, I prefer the interface of OS X over Windows. But they both do the same thing.

Also, I have a windows keyboard plugged into my mac, so I still get sticky keys.

My first computer was a little Macintosh IBM. Then, I switched to Windows and was with Windows from Windows 95 up to Windows ME. Had to get a mac for college, so switched back to macs. So, I'm quite literate with both and I can tell you the big differences:

-Os interface
-Windows crashes more often (but this can be largely avoided, I feel, if you stick with Windows XP and steer clear of their newfangled garbage) OR, with OS X 10.6 or up, you can download Wine, which lets you run pretty much every windows-only game on OS X, smoothly, without needing a partition.

The thing is I have an older OS, so I need a partition. But, I've played Morrowind, Total War, Sim City, Mount and Blade, Oblivion, Fallout 3 (before my GPU died). The hardware is more than capable, they just have to make it compatible with the OS. And, if they can make it compatible with multiple consoles, along with Windows, I don't see why they couldn't make it playable on mac.

I voted no, primarily because I want to prevent Apple customers from enabling Steve Jobs' ridiculous addiction to creating http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism software and hardware.

Secondly, I know quite a few Apple owners who have a very undeserved sense of elitism, and I like to be able to rub it in that I can play games they can't.

[/illogical but strongly held vendetta against Apple]

Actually, I'm gonna have to contradict you on that. You're not knowledgeable about modern Windows OSes unless you have some knowledge of Windows 2000, XP, Vista, or 7. The old consumer-grade Windows OS line (referred to as 9x) died out with Windows ME, and was replaced with consumer-grade versions of business-class Windows based on NT. There's really no comparison between Windows 95, 98, or ME and 2000, XP, Vista, or 7, except for some superficial similarity and some backwards compatibility to run software for the old versions. The bottom line: crashes are much less common on Windows NT-based OSes, comparable to modern Mac OS. Note that WINE is not nearly as stable as the OS it runs on or the OS it "doesn't" emulate.

Side note: what does the physical keyboard have anything to do with Sticky Keys? That's a Windows OS function, not a function of the hardware. A function which I've turned off on my PC.

You're mostly right about the hardware differences between a Mac and a PC, but with one vital difference - the Mac hardware will run Windows without any "hacking" of the OS, but the opposite is not true; that's the extent of my knowledge on the subject, but if you want to know more, search for Hackintosh.

And also, a question: what's the benefit of Final Cut Pro over Adobe Premiere?

I'm not a Mac user (WAY too expensive) but I would have no objection to a Mac version as long as it didn't have a negative impact on the Windows version.

I have a macbook pro, and a somewhat dated PC with windows XP. I think it would be cool if they had Mac support, but only because I would like to give the CS a try.

I think they should make the game for Windows and Xbox 360, port it to PS3, and then if they have time, port it to OS X or get a third party to do it instead.

The apple keyboards are actually very deep. So, the keys don't touch the bottom and anything sticky you might spill in there doesn't touch the keys. Also, they're much easier to take apart and clean.


On the other hand, they're overpriced, and certain keys can just stop working.

For the same price I got a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse.

And you're right, I'm not knowledgeable in modern Windows Oses. Nor do I really care, to be honest.

The worst kind of keyboard, especially for gaming.

Sure, why not?

No. I don't want to know what that Apple devilware will do to the sweet innocent posterior of the Elder Scrolls. :nope:

But my serious answer, if Mods made in the mac version are compatible for the PC version, then I'd be fine. If not, then no.

No. Because if you bought a mac you should have know that you prolly won't be playing games unless you use a dual-boot or a emulator of some type. Why should developers go out of their way to make you comfortable......then again I voted Yes because I don't want to listen to apple fanbois cry, so sure, whatever, as long as it doesn't ruin the game, or in some stupid way take away the toolset >.> God help me if I had to play a game like Oblivion without mods.

Well if that's the case (which I'm sure that's a little bit exaggerated) then why don't you just buy a windows OS and boot it onto your Mac? You know you can do that right?

I do that.

That's how I play PC games on my mac.

How was I supposed to know ?! When talking to someone you know they're being sarcastic due to their tone but you can't know that by reading what someone typed

If Blizzard can do it with all of their games, Bethesda can too.

Anyone against this really does not understand how NOT different the two platforms are.

Yep, exactly. People seem to be under the impression that making TES:V Mac compatible would be a multi-million dollar investment that would take years. It simply would not.

It's not the severity of the wait just it's presence. I like my TES V.

I wouldn't gain anything from it being supported on Macs

20 years ago Microsoft was the evil overlord, and Apple was your friend. http://www.redmondpie.com/police-seize-gizmodo-editors-computers-who-reviewed-iphone-4g-hd/.

Microsoft made a quality OS with Windows 7 so operating systems aren't an issue.
Neither is hardware, because PC is just cheaper and you can actually build your own configuration - don't even need to be tech savvy to do it. My then-60 year old mother actually once took up the manual and did a decent job at assembling a computer. She was like a kid in a candystore.
Audience isn't an issue either since a huge percentage uses a Windows OS.
Contrast this with Mac, the pretty-looking but expensive and closed system. Funny, reminds me of http://thebackpackr.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Windows-vs-Mac.jpg that I've seen flaunted by Apple-fans. Now, what do you think would happen if the Mac car would break down, and yes, they do...

And here comes the point of the whole rant: No need to stimulate that kind of behavior from a company, I say by spending valuable development time making games for their system.

What about native support for different Linux stro's? I'd be all for it, but how long would it take until it stopped being backwards compatible with previous versions of certain distro's?

Actually, I've seen Macs crash many times. The difference is, they don't tell you when they've failed. They tend to just sit there broken. I can't open anything, close anything, use anything. The mouse just turns into the swirling pointer forever. And, in my experience, Macs have crashed a lot more for me than Windows. Since these were just school computers, at the time, I guess you need a really good system to be able to run a mac? Which would probably cost ￡1000...

Not that PC's don't crash.

Imo, the features that turn me off macs are:

• Crashing
  
• Can't run anything
  
• Purposefully make everything they have incompatible with other OS's
  
• FAR too expensive. I remember my school computers cost around ￡600. I could have bought the equivalent Windows computer for around ￡200-￡300
  
• The UI (though, that's just a personal preference)

Anyhoo, I'm stopping there. I don't want to feel the burning wrath of the hand of a grizzly for partaking in a Windows vs Mac thread.

They call that the spinning beach ball of death. It generally happens if you try to run a million applications at once and it will fix itself eventually. It's just that you have to give it like 20 minutes sometimes, depending on how badly you were taxing the processor.

It's the equivalent to the hourglass and it's purpose is to keep you from touching anything else in order to prevent a crash. It is not a crash. When OSX actually crashes, it gives you a "send report" notification, just like Windows. It just... rarely crashes.





Everything on your list works both ways, but this one here, not really true. As I've said, I work on both Mac and Windows and I'm constantly transferring files between the two. No incompatibility.

The funny thing is that, anything you plug into mac just works. But if I have a drive formatted for mac, I NEED a third party system to get Windows to recognize it. So, from experience of working with both, equally, I have personally seen Windows to be the more temperamental one.

As for Apple being an evil corporation: uhhh duhhhhhh. All corporations are evil. Their mp3 players svck, their cell phones svck, their ipad things svck. But I still think they make nicer computers than Dell or HP or Gateway or any of the companies that pre-install Windows. Plus, I prefer the interface of OS X, and I need the Final Cut software. So, I gotta have a mac. No alternative for me.